corta765 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Disclaimer: This is for fun and I did my best to consider a million different factors with this. I did my best researching the 2000 draft on who would've wanted to take a flyer on Brady, how a Bills win over NE may or may not have altered their season, what the AFC may have looked like, and how Brady himself may have done outside of the division. 2000 NFL Draft: As we all know Brady famously was a sixth round pick. The last QB taken before Brady was Spergeon Wynn by Cleveland (of course) 16 picks earlier. For the purpose of this exercise though we will only consider teams after the Patriots pick at 199 as places he could end up going. The remaining picks in the 6th round went as followed: 6* 200 New Orleans Saints Sherrod Gideon WR Southern Mississippi C-USA 6* 201 New England Patriots David Nugent DE Purdue Big Ten 6* 202 Washington Redskins Todd Husak QB Stanford Pac-10 6* 203 San Diego Chargers Damen Wheeler CB Colorado Big 12 6* 204 Pittsburgh Steelers Jason Gavadza TE Kent State MAC 6* 205 San Diego Chargers JaJuan Seider QB Florida A&M MEAC 6* 206 Cleveland Browns Brad Bedell OT Colorado Big 12 Two QB's are picked after him and both were QB needy teams with the Redskins starting that season Brad Johnson with Jeff George at backup and San Diego dealing with Ryan Leafs implosion. Cleveland had already picked a QB so they would be out and New Orleans had youngster Aaron Brooks at the time who would lead them to the division crown in 2000 leaving Pittsburgh as the only other location. Pittsburgh would've been interesting because they had Kordell Stewart who still had a lot of intrigue but not much after him. In my opinion he doesn't make it to Pittsburgh where with Bill Cowher Brady could've created a potential dynasty again for the Steelers. Instead he does end up going to the Redskins and into the NFC. 2000 NFL Season Nothing would really change here for the Buffalo Bills or Brady because Brady didn't play.The Bills continue their QB controversy and settle on Rob Johnson as their guy over Flutie. Brady may get in for part of the game in 2000 because the Redskins collapse from a 7-4 start to finish 8-8 and all three Redskin QBs including Husak saw action. AFC East Title: Miami Dolphins 2001 NFL Season The Bills have an abysmal first season just as they did in 2001 with Greg Williams missing the playoffs at 3-13. The Patriots flounder at 7-9 when rookie QB Sage Rosenfels is thrown into action (Rosenfels was selected by WSH in the 4th rnd by WSH in 2001, NE picks him in the 4th instead) after Drew Bledsoe goes down for a portion of the season. The Redskins meanwhile see 2nd year QB Tom Brady lead them to an unexpected 11-5 division title. They lose though in Chicago due to a controversial incompletion by Bears QB Jim Miller in a heavy snow storm which setups a GW kick for the Bears. The Rams win their second SB in 3 years over Pittsburgh AFC East Title: Miami Dolphins 2002 NFL Season The Bills in need of a QB badly and wanting to make a splash sign free agent QB Jake Plummer who had some success with the Arizona Cardinals. The Bills split their games with the Patriots beating the Pats at home and win their first division crown since 1995 with a 10-6 record (They beat the Plummer-less Broncos in the game they lost in 2002). The Bills win their first playoff game since 1995 at home against the Colts in a tight 21-13 affair before losing to the Raiders. The Patriots squeeze out a Wildcard birth with Bledsoe but lose in the Wildcard to Pittsburgh. Brady and the Skins lose to the 49ers out in San Fran. Bucs win the SB. AFC East Title: Buffalo Bills 2003 NFL Season Buffalo slips to 7-9 as they split their games with the Patriots, but fail to improve on the previous season as the offense lacks the same production with Peerless Price gone. The Patriots on the other hand dominate the division at 13-3 with a shutdown defense and solid offense to win their first Super Bowl over the St Louis Rams and Kurt Warner. AFC East Title: New England Patriots 2004 NFL Season The Buffalo Bills win the division title at 11-5 over the Patriots who see a decline in Bledsoe's production and just make it in the playoffs with each team splitting a game in the head to head. Buffalo loses at home to a Peyton Manning led offense that steamrolls its way to Mannings first Super Bowl. AFC East Title: Buffalo Bills 2005 NFL Season The Buffalo Bills fail to make the playoffs when they lose core defensive pieces finishing 6-10. They are swept by the New England Patriots who see a decent season by Drew Bledsoe who win a weak AFC at 10-6. The Steelers win the SB, head coach Greg Williams is fired after the season due to organizational differences and the defenses failure to integrate younger pieces. AFC East Title: New England Patriots 2006 NFL Season The Buffalo Bills sneak into the playoffs at 9-7 with new head coach Dick Jauron who improves the Bills defense enough to get back in the playoffs where they lose to the division champion New York Jets. The Bills sweep the Patriots who fall down 7-9 due to Bledsoe's dwindling QB skills despite a strong defense, putting in rookie Jay Cutler at the end of the year. The San Diego Chargers break the drought and end up winning the Super Bowl after defeating Peyton Manning's Colts in a thrilling AFC Title game. AFC East Title: NY Jets 2007 NFL Season The Buffalo Bills miss the playoffs at 9-7 with Jake Plummer showing his age and is replaced late in the season by Trent Edwards. The Bills can only split with the rising Patriots who take the division at 11-5. The Superbowl is an upset by Eli Mannings Giants over the defending champion Chargers. AFC East Title: New England Patriots 2008 NFL Season The Bills finish a disappointing 8-8 after a quick start out of the gate and split the season series against the Patriots. The Patriots finish at 9-7 out of the playoffs behind the Miami Dolphins wildcat attack at 11-5. The Super Bowl sees a Washington Redskin Brady led squad defeat the Steelers in an all time classic. AFC East Title Miami Dolphins 2009 NFL Season The Bills finish at 7-9 as recent drafts have limited talent to the roster and hoped QB of the future Trent Edwards doesn't develop any further. The Bills win the opening night game on Monday Night to split the series against the Patriots again. Head Coach Dick Jauron is shown the door at the end of the year after failing to get the team to playoff for 3 straight years. The New York Jets win the division crown with the Patriots sneaking in as a wild card team and going to the Super Bowl where they lose to New Orleans. AFC East Title: NY Jets 2010 NFL Season With new head coach Chan Gailey they Bills crater at 4-12 as they get swept also in the season series against the Patriots. The AFC East crown is taken again by the Jets who just beat out the Patriots late in the season. The Super Bowl still ends with GB beating Pitt. The Packers wild card run starts with an upset of the Brady led Redskins who lead the NFL in scoring. AFC East Title: NY Jets 2011 NFL Season With a draft that provides some needed talent back to the roster the Bills go 7-9 with a late season win in New England for the season sweep. The AFC East is won at 9-7 by the New York Jets despite mercurial play at QB. Tom Brady's Washington Redskins defeat the Baltimore Ravens in the title game for his second Super Bowl victory. AFC East Title: NY Jets 2012 NFL Season The Bills break a six year playoff drought by finishing 10-6 tied and winning the division crown over the Patriots who make it in as a wildcard team as both teams split the matchup against each other. The Bills win their first playoff game since 2004 at home in the wildcard against the Patriots. The Bills go on to lose in Denver 28-17 against the Manning led Broncos. The Ravens avenge their previous Super Bowl loss to the Redskins and Brady to win their second title. AFC East Title: Buffalo Bills 2013 NFL Season The Bills regress from the previous season at 7-9 splitting the season series with New England. Ryan Fitzpatricks flaws show against a harder schedule of teams despite an improved defense.The Bills enter the offseason knowing they need to draft a QB at some point and cut Fitzpatrick. The AFC East is taken by the New England Patriots. The Super Bowl sees Peyton's Broncos fall to the Seahawks. AFC East Title: New England Patriots 2014 NFL Season The Bills draft Teddy Bridgewater in the 1st round who leads the Bills to a 11-5 division title. The Bills split again with the Patriots who also make the post season but lose on a late Jay Cutler INT in the wildcard. The Bills make it the AFC title game against the Colts thanks to their #1 defense. Andrew Luck and Indy defeat Buffalo as they head to the Super Bowl. They lose to the Seahawks on a last second running TD from the 2 yard line by former Bills RB Marshawn Lynch. AFC East Title: Buffalo Bills 2015 NFL Season A highly competitive AFC see the Bills make the playoffs as a wildcard as the Jets take the AFC East Title. A favorable schedule and strong offense help the Bills to a 10-6 record. The Bills sweep the Patriots in their two matchups as Cutler gets injured and the Patriots have to play rookie Jimmy Garrapollo who is steady in his first season. The Bills lose their Wildcard matchup against Cincinnati thanks to a miss field goal at the end. Denver defeats Carolina in Peytons final game to win the Superbowl. AFC East Title: New York Jets 2016 NFL Season The Bills hamstrung by cap space see their defense regress and the team fall to a disappointing 7-9 record that gets Chan Gailey fired. Bridgewater lacks help at WR as he and Lesean McCoy have to carry too much of the load on offense resulting in injuries that cost each 2 games on the season. The Bills also are swept by a reloaded New England team with Garrapollo leading a dynamic passing attack and a very strong defense. The Patriots fall in the Superbowl against Tom Brady's Washington Redskins who win a third title with him as QB with TD drive late. AFC East Title: New England Patriots Final Numbers: 6 Playoff Appereances 4 Division Crowns Edited March 16, 2017 by corta765 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Question: Does Brady develop into GOAT if not for being drafted by the Patriots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 We've all wasted a lot of words here but this is definitely on a different level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 We've all wasted a lot of words here but this is definitely on a different level :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I know you put a ton of work into this, but this thread makes me sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 Question: Does Brady develop into GOAT if not for being drafted by the Patriots? I personally think he would regardless of where he went. His ability to read the field is virtually unmatched other then Peyton which is his greatest strength IMO. At the same point the first 3 Pats SB's were driven a lot by BB defense which is why even with Bledsoe who they signed to a 100 million extension I think you see some good seasons and still a really tough NE team. We've all wasted a lot of words here but this is definitely on a different level Eh I was bored at lunch seemed like fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 We've all wasted a lot of words here but this is definitely on a different level It's the off-season, it's snowing, the groundhog was right, what can you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Can I get this week's lottery numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Wish I had as much free time as you. Then again, maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 No reason to look back. Can't change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Brady needs to retire soon. He's making folks lose their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 But does Belicheck get fired/quit in your alternate universe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 useless thoughts. Belicheat will find that system QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 No Brain Dead Drew in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
145B4IDIE Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 If knees were backwards, what would chairs look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToTasker Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 We've all wasted a lot of words here but this is definitely on a different level Perfectly said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) Butterfly effect creates larger changes as we move away from the initial event. In the end, I see Donald Trump buying the Bills and making them Great Again. Hillary gets elected in this parallel world but is so excited upon winning that she has a heart attack and Martin O'Malley becomes the president. No one knows who he is and SNL shuts down. Edited March 17, 2017 by jeffismagic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 He can't play forever. It will end sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 If the patriots* didn't draft Brady, the Bills would have drafted him in the 7th round. In Buffalo, Brady's career would have been an uneventful 3 years long and he would've retired to become a guy stuck in a cubicle for a living, married Sally the beautician and gone on to lead a life of worrying about paying bills and other things not associated with being wealthy. In other words ... The world would've been a much better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 What if I was richer and married a super model? Hey, this fun. Knowing both franchises, without Brady maybe the Bledsoe is the GOAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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