Roundybout Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Kurt Angle is the man, and that's all there is to be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Goldberg lost.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 Kurt Angle is the man, and that's all there is to be said. Â Its true, its damn true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I haven't watched in years. I think I pretty much stopped when Angle left. I was a huge fan. But now that I hear he's back (is he playing his old comedy role too?), I may have to check that out a couple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 Just want to saw I am pumped for SDL tonight, things I am hoping to see:  A Wyatt family reunion with a rematch with Orton now that he has his family (setting up an eventual Wyatt regaining the title)  A Nakamura debut (and if rumors are true that AJ is heading to raw ) a match vs AJ before he moves  Miz needs some direction, maybe going after Ambrose to regain the IC title  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I have to see that dude! Â Those guys have a way of getting right to the point. If you have Hulu, it's available there.... Â https://www.hulu.com/watch/249998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Just want to saw I am pumped for SDL tonight, things I am hoping to see:  A Wyatt family reunion with a rematch with Orton now that he has his family (setting up an eventual Wyatt regaining the title)  A Nakamura debut (and if rumors are true that AJ is heading to raw ) a match vs AJ before he moves  Miz needs some direction, maybe going after Ambrose to regain the IC title  2 outta 3 ain't bad! Na-ka-mu-ra!! I give the show a Perfect 10 If you have Hulu, it's available there....  https://www.hulu.com/watch/249998 I appreciate it, Gentleman Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Really good Mania overall, IMO. Everyone knew it was going to be extremely long, so no surprise there. It was also no surprise Shane/AJ had the best match. By far the most impressive stage set WWE has ever assembled. Looked incredible and the video ramp was awesome. The snake slithering down for Orton's entrance was extra cool. Edited April 5, 2017 by KermitMcDermott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 i was kinda disappointed in Smack Down last night. The Cena/Nicki(Miz/Marysse) thing was funny, but that got interrupted by that 10 minute violin interlude for Shitstain, then he didn't even wrestle and Miz/Marysse just kind of slinked off into the shadows. that just seemed very awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 i was kinda disappointed in Smack Down last night. The Cena/Nicki(Miz/Marysse) thing was funny, but that got interrupted by that 10 minute violin interlude for Shitstain, then he didn't even wrestle and Miz/Marysse just kind of slinked off into the shadows. that just seemed very awkward. Â Agreed I would love to have that start a feud with each other, but we have to see what happens with the shake up. Also was disappointed in the main event, I was hoping Harper would turn on Orton at the end and have a full blown family reunion. Â I have to imagine Wyatt would win the Horror story match or whatever , I mean it is going to be his match after all but WWE screws things up with Wyatt all the time so who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) i was kinda disappointed in Smack Down last night. The Cena/Nicki(Miz/Marysse) thing was funny, but that got interrupted by that 10 minute violin interlude for Shitstain, then he didn't even wrestle and Miz/Marysse just kind of slinked off into the shadows. that just seemed very awkward. :lol: I dig the creativity, Pooj. It's a slow burn. Nakamura was a rockstar before even signing with WWE and after his exposure on NXT, you saw how highly anticipated he was with the crowd. There were people all over the world losing their minds just at seeing Shin on WWE TV. So WWE is teasing everyone and building anticipation. The less they give away, the more special it is going forward.  His entrance takes forever and Miz is a smart but cowardly heel. So when Nakamura entered with all that unique energy of his, Miz hit the bricks, consistent with his character.  Miz is the guy everyone wants to hit in the face while Nakamura is famous for kneeing people in the face. I'm guessing they're going to have Miz be annoying and grating like only he can while dodging actual confrontation, and just when people are losing their minds they'll give 'em what they want.  In my opinion there's something beautiful and different about Nak. I've no idea who to compare him to...as Renee Young said on Talking Smack, it's like he lives in his own little world. I thought that was a brilliant description. I took my Deadhead dad to see him in NXT in Brooklyn and he was all skeptical that my favorite wrestler was some random Japanese guy, until Shinsuke and the indescribable feeling in that building knocked his socks off. Seeing him live is a trip and a half.  Wrestling is subjective though and it's all in the eye of the beholder. You do you, brother. Edited April 6, 2017 by 2018 Our Year For Sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 11, 2017 Author Share Posted April 11, 2017 Soooo they really messed up an opportunity I think with this roster shape up, the Raw made no sense as they just ran people out. Not that I have a problem with the moves necessarily just think they handled it all wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Can't believe they brought Cena and Nikki Bella over to Raw, that was an incredibly surprising move      Soooo they really messed up an opportunity I think with this roster shape up, the Raw made no sense as they just ran people out. Not that I have a problem with the moves necessarily just think they handled it all wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Shinsuke is the Japanese HBK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Not into it at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Shinsuke is the Japanese HBK. Guy is so cool  They killed Revival's theme music with that remix. No real main eventers switched brands, I guess Miz if you consider him that...but all the top acts like Shinsuke, Styles, Orton, Rollins, Finn, Reigns, Cena all stayed put. I'm left wondering what the point of the whole thing was. And they had such goodwill with me after the awesome Wrestlemania week. shrug. I've just discovered the magic of Lucha Underground anyways Can't believe they brought Cena and Nikki Bella over to Raw, that was an incredibly surprising move      Nikki changed hair colors in the middle of their segment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Guy is so cool  They killed Revival's theme music with that remix. No real main eventers switched brands, I guess Miz if you consider him that...but all the top acts like Shinsuke, Styles, Orton, Rollins, Finn, Reigns, Cena all stayed put. I'm left wondering what the point of the whole thing was. And they had such goodwill with me after the awesome Wrestlemania week. shrug. I've just discovered the magic of Lucha Underground anyways Nikki changed hair colors in the middle of their segment! Kevin Owens and Dean Ambrose have definitely solidified the fact they can draw and be main eventers in the past 2 year's.. both get hurt by suspect booking  Both them are above the miz IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Kevin Owens and Dean Ambrose have definitely solidified the fact they can draw and be main eventers in the past 2 year's.. both get hurt by suspect booking  Both them are above the miz IMO Owens got the title only when everyone else got injured/punished, was literally handed the title by HHH to kick off Hunter's money feud with Rollins, and played third fiddle to Reigns and Goldberg/Brock his whole title reign before dropping the title in a 1 or 2-minute match with no rematch, all while developing his undercard feud with Jericho. Ambrose spent Wrestlemania fighting Baron Corbin on the pre-show. If you wanna say they're above Miz okay, but they're not utilized as money-draws the same way as those other names I listed who stayed put. That's all I'm saying, that the 'Superstar Shake-Up' didn't really shake up the top of the card so it feels like empty hype. I agree if they wanted to get behind those guys they could elevate them as the talent is there.  Side note, why don't they let Ambrose go heel? His heel promos with The Shield kicked ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 I like the switches that were made as it gives the top card of each show new possibilities for feuds with the potential to cement some new up and comers, just hated the way they rolled it out  That said I am excited, the wife and I bought tickets the other day for Smackdown as they are coming to Rochester in June for the first time in 5 years, excited to see AJ and Nakamura live! Disappointed Bray was moved to Raw though as I wont get to see him, everytime they come here he is always on the other tour  Also by June they should have the new stories they are pushing well under way and I trust Smackdowns booking over Raw so it should be a good one.  Or and that means I get to see 205 live as well! Cruiserweights should be fun to see too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) Owens got the title only when everyone else got injured/punished, was literally handed the title by HHH to kick off Hunter's money feud with Rollins, and played third fiddle to Reigns and Goldberg/Brock his whole title reign before dropping the title in a 1 or 2-minute match with no rematch, all while developing his undercard feud with Jericho. Ambrose spent Wrestlemania fighting Baron Corbin on the pre-show. If you wanna say they're above Miz okay, but they're not utilized as money-draws the same way as those other names I listed who stayed put. That's all I'm saying, that the 'Superstar Shake-Up' didn't really shake up the top of the card so it feels like empty hype. I agree if they wanted to get behind those guys they could elevate them as the talent is there.  Side note, why don't they let Ambrose go heel? His heel promos with The Shield kicked ass. Ambrose's fight with Corbin was supposed to be in the main card and it got pushed to the pre show because he was drunk at the hall of fame ceremony  I would love a heel turn with Ambrose, he needs a shakeup  And KO is super talented and has been one of the best wrestler's in the promotion since he joined. His universal title reign was poorly booked because he lost his "prizefighter" edge when he became best buds with Jericho  Lesnar also could've helped push Ambrose over at WrestleMania last year but refused to put on a good match because he dogs it when no title is on the line Edited April 13, 2017 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Ambrose's fight with Corbin was supposed to be in the main card and it got pushed to the pre show because he was drunk at the hall of fame ceremony  I would love a heel turn with Ambrose, he needs a shakeup  And KO is super talented and has been one of the best wrestler's in the promotion since he joined. His universal title reign was poorly booked because he lost his "prizefighter" edge when he became best buds with Jericho  Lesnar also could've helped push Ambrose over at WrestleMania last year but refused to put on a good match because he dogs it when no title is on the line Good point. They hardly even let Ambrose have a competitive match with Brock, it was almost a glorified squash. Instead they gave that story to Shane McMahon in his match with 'Taker that night, the underdog who kept kicking out and gave the monster a run for his money. It was as if they see Shane as a bigger draw than Dean.  I think we mostly agree that Ambrose/Owens have awesome talent and could be a bigger deal but the company hasn't completely gotten behind them.  I'm with you on the Prizefighter gimmick for KO too, I was real into his work at that time. He's a lot better at that than playing a suit-wearing corporate patsy. I like the switches that were made as it gives the top card of each show new possibilities for feuds with the potential to cement some new up and comers, just hated the way they rolled it out  That said I am excited, the wife and I bought tickets the other day for Smackdown as they are coming to Rochester in June for the first time in 5 years, excited to see AJ and Nakamura live! Disappointed Bray was moved to Raw though as I wont get to see him, everytime they come here he is always on the other tour  Also by June they should have the new stories they are pushing well under way and I trust Smackdowns booking over Raw so it should be a good one.  Or and that means I get to see 205 live as well! Cruiserweights should be fun to see too Enjoy!!!!!!! I need to get to more live shows. Great move brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Good point. They hardly even let Ambrose have a competitive match with Brock, it was almost a glorified squash. Instead they gave that story to Shane McMahon in his match with 'Taker that night, the underdog who kept kicking out and gave the monster a run for his money. It was as if they see Shane as a bigger draw than Dean. I think we mostly agree that Ambrose/Owens have awesome talent and could be a bigger deal but the company hasn't completely gotten behind them. I'm with you on the Prizefighter gimmick for KO too, I was real into his work at that time. He's a lot better at that than playing a suit-wearing corporate patsy. Enjoy!!!!!!! I need to get to more live shows. Great move brother. Totally agree with you about KO. I didn't know much about him before he debuted but he won me over quick with his in ring work and great heel work  I really don't know much about the king of strong style but I have a feeling he'll win me over quick. He has been around the world and has a great "presence" around him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) Totally agree with you about KO. I didn't know much about him before he debuted but he won me over quick with his in ring work and great heel work  I really don't know much about the king of strong style but I have a feeling he'll win me over quick. He has been around the world and has a great "presence" around him Owens won me over because he seemed like a real person that I might meet on the street or something. Whereas others in WWE I feel like they're beautiful, perfect wrestling robots sometimes that are not as relatable.  If you have WWE Network consider checking out some of Shinsuke in NXT, especially his debut match against Sami Zayn (Takeover Dallas April 1 2016). Straight fire.  If you're interested here's Nakamura/Styles in New Japan with English commentary (including Matt Striker), I believe it was AJ's last match there before debuting at the Royal Rumble weeks later. Presence is a great way to describe Shin.  https://youtu.be/YdVZLr4TeMw Edited April 13, 2017 by 2018 Our Year For Sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 My wife thinks Shinsuke is gay and I am not sure how to answer that, any one else think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 no idea  Yeah I laughed when she said it and then said I have no idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Owens won me over because he seemed like a real person that I might meet on the street or something. Whereas others in WWE I feel like they're beautiful, perfect wrestling robots sometimes that are not as relatable. If you have WWE Network consider checking out some of Shinsuke in NXT, especially his debut match against Sami Zayn (Takeover Dallas April 1 2016). Straight fire. If you're interested here's Nakamura/Styles in New Japan with English commentary (including Matt Striker), I believe it was AJ's last match there before debuting at the Royal Rumble weeks later. Presence is a great way to describe Shin. https://youtu.be/YdVZLr4TeMw I do have the network.  It's just that with work, and all my football related stuff I can only keep up with WWE storylines lol  I did know of him though and im curious to see how they book him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited)  Yeah I laughed when she said it and then said I have no idea! It's funny, I can see why she'd say that. Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury were supposedly major influences on him. Found this With a background in classic ballet, yoga and MMA, everything Nakamura does looks and feels different. Theres almost a competing element to his movements that at one second resemble the effeminate beauty of a dancer before instantly giving way to the brutality of an MMA-inspired knee strike.  Nakamura often contorts his fingers into creepy patterns of movement and thrusts his pelvis in ways that can be perceived as provocative, further adding to the mystery of his characters mindset. His influences come directly from Western popular culture, including the movements of Michael Jackson and the charisma of Queen frontman Freddie Mercury.  "So Michael Jackson, his moving looks like a martial artist moving," Nakamura said. "Hes quicker than other dancers but he dont have muscles. Most dancers have huge muscles. So his dancing is quicker than everybody. He looks [like hes] controlling gravity. He looks like an oriental martial arts master. I tried to steal a body movement from him. So thats why I imitate Michael Jackson a little bit." https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/wwe/news/equally-brutal-and-beautiful-shinsuke-nakamura-is-thriving-in-wwes-nxt/amp/ Edited April 13, 2017 by 2018 Our Year For Sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) It's funny, I can see why she'd say that. Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury were supposedly major influences on him. Found this  https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/wwe/news/equally-brutal-and-beautiful-shinsuke-nakamura-is-thriving-in-wwes-nxt/amp/  Good find! I was reading that he and Brock trained together and he was an MMA guy too, I will be sure to share this info with my wife lol Edited April 13, 2017 by Bray Wyatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Â Good find! I was reading that he and Brock trained together and he was an MMA guy too, I will be sure to share this info with my wife lol He does have a wifey by the way, but who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Nakamura is like goldust + hbk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Nakamura is like goldust + hbk And michael Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 14, 2017 Author Share Posted April 14, 2017 And michael Jackson  And perhaps Freddie Mercury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 My boy Aries was LIT tonight. Fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ambrose and Jericho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 wtf is up with Seamus and Cesaro offering handshakes to the Hardy's for????? 2 weeks in a row, that's stupid. Sorry, though, as much as i am glad to see the Hardy's back, Matt is looking completely unfit for the WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 there were some bad reviews of this Raw but I was sports entertained when I watched it, the comedy with Y2J and Dean was great, Dean trying to get his name off the list and the Jericho putting him back on was funny  Also good to see the start to have an idea on how to book Bray of course made me happy : ) still not sure about this House of Horrors thing but it appears the title is not on the line so Bray winning would be a good way to build some momentum into his next Raw feud (Balor perhaps?)  Matt Hardy seemed to get carried by Sheamus in the match (Sheamus did a great job imo) but perhaps if they finally get to add the "broken" gimmick he will be able to do more promo backstage stuff and be better rested in the ring to help his work rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 wtf is up with Seamus and Cesaro offering handshakes to the Hardy's for????? 2 weeks in a row, that's stupid. Sorry, though, as much as i am glad to see the Hardy's back, Matt is looking completely unfit for the WWE. I think they are doing that handshake thing to make shemaus and Cesaro look like decent losers until they snap at payback and cesaro makes a heel turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 nice article leading up to payback  http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/raw-doesnt-have-any-momentum-heading-payback-254233?utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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