mead107 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 No wasted year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) I don't think starting a highly drafted rookie will amount to a wasted year. If you don't make playoffs, you are still developing a QB who could be your franchise guy instead of going another year with a stopgap. Especially if you don't think the stopgap is a playoff QB. Otoh you might actually make the playoffs if you put a good team around your rookie and he plays well enough. Dak showed us it can be done. Watson can do everything that Dak can do as a QB (only better imo). The bottom line for me is that I'm not scared to play a rookie QB. The Bills need to start identifying and developing their future. Edited February 18, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 It may be a way far macro view, but the same offensive system made Boyd look like a stud too... and he's fizzled in the pros. At the risk of being declared a cult member, I'm not convinced Watson is even an upgrade over TT (who I believe has not reached his ceiling yet btw) What is it that separates Watson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 It may be a way far macro view, but the same offensive system made Boyd look like a stud too... and he's fizzled in the pros. At the risk of being declared a cult member, I'm not convinced Watson is even an upgrade over TT (who I believe has not reached his ceiling yet btw) What is it that separates Watson? Taj Boyd was a 6th round draft pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 It may be a way far macro view, but the same offensive system made Boyd look like a stud too... and he's fizzled in the pros. At the risk of being declared a cult member, I'm not convinced Watson is even an upgrade over TT (who I believe has not reached his ceiling yet btw) What is it that separates Watson? 8600 passing yards in two years. Will hike the ball and throw a dart over the middle without the 4 second critical delay that Taylor has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) so what happens if the defense rebounds while we have this "down" year we have just wasted a opportunity That's a lot of if's. If TT plays at a 2016 level If the defense plays at a high level If the rookie isn't as good as TT out of the box. Edited February 18, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 The Tyrod comparisons are pretty lazy IMO. I don't find them similar. I saw Tannehill this morning for Watson and that felt a little more accurate. Really? Watson is a better athlete than Tannehill isn't he? I know Tannehill was a WR but he was a pretty slow WR...lol It may be a way far macro view, but the same offensive system made Boyd look like a stud too... and he's fizzled in the pros. At the risk of being declared a cult member, I'm not convinced Watson is even an upgrade over TT (who I believe has not reached his ceiling yet btw) What is it that separates Watson? About $13-15 million a year in cap hits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Watson has vision problems in the pocket it's a big reason he threw 17pks last season. 17Pks in college season is horrible that's 14gms he played maybe even 13 imagine what that would like in the NFL maybe 25-30 pks. I'll pass on a guy with height issues especially when he's proven to have height issues on the field. We got a guy like that already Tyrod Taylor just pk up the option and use your first on a position player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 It may be a way far macro view, but the same offensive system made Boyd look like a stud too... and he's fizzled in the pros. At the risk of being declared a cult member, I'm not convinced Watson is even an upgrade over TT (who I believe has not reached his ceiling yet btw) What is it that separates Watson? Boyd never looked like a stud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Watson has vision problems in the pocket it's a big reason he threw 17pks last season. 17Pks in college season is horrible that's 14gms he played maybe even 13 imagine what that would like in the NFL maybe 25-30 pks. I'll pass on a guy with height issues especially when he's proven to have height issues on the field. We got a guy like that already Tyrod Taylor just pk up the option and use your first on a position player Jameis threw 18 his final season and he's already 3x better than any qb on our roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 So who cares if we have a "down year" going from TT to a rookie?Why not draft a qb AND keep TT? Would you rather we take the 2nd or 3rd highest rated corner or safety? How did that work out with Whitner and Gilmore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 That's a lot of if's. If TT plays at a 2016 level If the defense plays at a high level If the rookie isn't as good as TT out of the box. its really not TT was better in 2015 but overall starting has put uo consistant numbers RR destroyed a top 5 D most of the players are still here....McD as D coord has had RECENT consistant success Draft a qb...pick up TTs option...the best qb on the roster plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) Why not draft a qb AND keep TT? Would you rather we take the 2nd or 3rd highest rated corner or safety? How did that work out with Whitner and Gilmore? Why does keeping TT mean we have to draft Whitner? its really not TT was better in 2015 but overall starting has put uo consistant numbers RR destroyed a top 5 D most of the players are still here....McD as D coord has had RECENT consistant success Draft a qb...pick up TTs option...the best qb on the roster plays Who was the best player on that top 5 D, John? McDougle's last defense was 21st in yards and 26th in points. TT was better in 2015 when there was no film on him. Why is he gonna get better? Edited February 18, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Don't get him started. While you missed the season he dropped 22,000 excuses for Tyrod's play. Like this one ? http://youtube.com/watch?v=MIAuac3WdrQ&feature=onebox You really cant let go of that $500 trip to Baltimore? Cant blame ya, Id be pissed too. Carp and his signature missed FG. Cost us another crucial momentum changer in a close game. Need to upgrade the K this off-season too. TT was better in 2015 when there was no film on him. Why is he gonna get better? Seattle and Miami 2. Showed a lot of progression, hit all the throws people said he couldnt. Made comeback drives. Failed in SEA succeeded in MIA, thats progression rite there. 3rd year starting with real bullets flying he is either gonna take a big step forward like RW or fall off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Really? Watson is a better athlete than Tannehill isn't he? I know Tannehill was a WR but he was a pretty slow WR...lolWatson is a QB first. He's a guy that plays from the pocket and takes some chances. He can run but doesn't play a game similar to TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) Jameis threw 18 his final season and he's already 3x better than any qb on our roster Jamies was a fine example of a guy that looked like a pro even when he was playing college FB Watson is a QB first. He's a guy that plays from the pocket and takes some chances. He can run but doesn't play a game similar to TT. Id agree here. He can move, but nothing like Tyrod. His sideline deep ball is the only aspect of his game the resembles TT imo. Still skeptical on whether it's the system or the QB. A la geno, johnny, RG... etc http://www.widerightnattylite.com/2014/9/17/6259741/from-bronze-to-bust-why-system-qbs-fail-in-the-nfl Edited February 18, 2017 by Over 28 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 You really cant let go of that $500 trip to Baltimore? Cant blame ya, Id be pissed too. Carp and his signature missed FG. Cost us another crucial momentum changer in a close game. Need to upgrade the K this off-season too. Seattle and Miami 2. Showed a lot of progression, hit all the throws people said he couldnt. Made comeback drives. Failed in SEA succeeded in MIA, thats progression rite there. 3rd year starting with real bullets flying he is either gonna take a big step forward like RW or fall off. No, that's you saying that he had two good games. Where was the progression in the other 14 games on the schedule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 his interception percentage was lower in year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Good. If Watson is there at 10 the Bills must pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 My moles say that Pegula's jet (which Whaley uses) landed at the nearest airport to Clemson U this morning. While Watson is not there (he's in Lakeland FL training), you can bet Dabo and staff are. New OC has been watching film, and may have specific questions about Watson's fit for a WCO/Spread/Bootleg system. MOLES?! Could this be a reply of history ? I hope they see more in this kid & are aware of his short comings more than the EJ debacle !!! If that is i fact why they are there, it could be because of the WR Williams . Seeing as we got rid of one Williams 2 yrs ago maybe they are replenishing them ... they are just taking a road trip to Ole Miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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