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27 minutes ago, Doc said:

Another day...and still no collusion/conspiracy.  Yay America!

 

has as much truth and chase-ability as Obama's fake birth certificate thingy

 

 

11 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  You did not answer the question in regards to Obama and Hillary.

 

Tibs couldn't look a cyclops in the eye and answer a question functionally

 

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1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Yes...this is exactly what we all think of every post you make.  Don't you think it's at all the least bit telling that you are the laughing stock of this forum and not one person comes do your defense? 

  You would think after the 100th lashing at the whipping pole out in back of the Soros Cubicle Farm (Abandoned warehouse) he would raise his game some.

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1 minute ago, RochesterRob said:

  You would think after the 100th lashing at the whipping pole out in back of the Soros Cubicle Farm (Abandoned warehouse) he would raise his game some.

 

He thinks his back is beating the whip.

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32 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

)Trump openly asked for Russian help on multiple occasions. That's been known, can't believe you deny that. 

 

2) The FBI was conducting a counter intelligence operation, you don't warn the target in that situation. 

 

When you are saying "openly asking for Russian help"  are you referring to him saying in his campaign speeches calling for Russia to release Hillary emails?   If so, what's the crime here?  Is the implication that Putin was taking orders from Trumps campaign speeches?  Is this what you are going with?

 

And what was Trump supposed to warn the FBI of?  Can you please give me a specific example of what it was he was supposed to warn them about.

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I just started reading the Mueller report and already found something I think perhaps Tibereous missed:

 



The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign. Although  the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump  presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.

 

Maybe it will go on to describe "really a sustained and wide ranging effort" by Trump and his cronies.  We'll see ...

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

1)Trump openly asked for Russian help on multiple occasions. That's been known, can't believe you deny that. 

 

Mueller denies this, not me. Despite having the opportunity to collude/conspire with the Russian information campaign, no one on the campaign - including Trump - accepted the offer(s). This is spelled out in Volume One. Trump making statements in his stump speeches is not a serious or credible piece of "evidence", per Mueller (and any rational person). 

 

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

2) The FBI was conducting a counter intelligence operation, you don't warn the target in that situation. 

 

Trump was not the target of the CI investigation per Comey. When the FBI discovered Dianne Feinstein's driver was a Chinese spy, they informed Dianne immediately so she could fire him. That's SOP in these sorts of situations. 

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1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Mueller denies this, not me. Despite having the opportunity to collude/conspire with the Russian information campaign, no one on the campaign - including Trump - accepted the offer(s). This is spelled out in Volume One. Trump making statements in his stump speeches is not a serious or credible piece of "evidence", per Mueller (and any rational person). 

 

 

Trump was not the target of the CI investigation per Comey. When the FBI discovered Dianne Feinstein's driver was a Chinese spy, they informed Dianne immediately so she could fire him. That's SOP in these sorts of situations. 

 

I wonder how much time you could have saved by ignoring that insane-ist?

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17 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Thanks for responding.  I have not read the report yet.  I plan to.  I don't want you to write everything down, but maybe just one example that you could cover in a couple sentences.  If it's so blatant, it should not be that hard.

 

Also, you say "first part of the Mueller report".  Is there a specific section heading or page numbers to look at coveringTrump's "really a sustained and wide ranging effort"?  I wanna know what you know.  But I don't have time to drop everything and read a 400+ page report.  Help out a brother ...

 

You might want to start watching the Bills again this year.  It's gonna be good!

Sure! Hacking the entire DNC computer system and then weaponizing the information to divide the Dems at their convention. That was a pretty well run operation by them and was effective. Dems even had to fire someone over that. Gosh I remember Conservatives pulling out their short hairs because Hillary knew a friggin debate question in advance. Her Trump had all the DNC info! 

 

And you would think it wrong if Russia does this stuff again, right? 

16 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Yes...this is exactly what we all think of every post you make.  Don't you think it's at all the least bit telling that you are the laughing stock of this forum and not one person comes do your defense? 

@GG Then follow clown GG's hysterical pleas and don't respond to me :) You can't even make a decent argument anyway 

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16 hours ago, Magox said:

 

When you are saying "openly asking for Russian help"  are you referring to him saying in his campaign speeches calling for Russia to release Hillary emails?   If so, what's the crime here?  Is the implication that Putin was taking orders from Trumps campaign speeches?  Is this what you are going with?

 

And what was Trump supposed to warn the FBI of?  Can you please give me a specific example of what it was he was supposed to warn them about.

For the first part, not saying it was a crime, it's just really wrong. Are you ok with that behavior being normalized? You think it's ok for murderous KGB scum to be helping out the Republicans? 

 

Second part, there were many many instances of Russian attempts to contact Trumps team with offers of help and they were never reported. You should know those well documented episodes of not, pick up the Mueller report and read it. It's great! 

 

They should have told FBI a foreign power was trying to influence the election. 

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15 hours ago, njbuff said:

 

I wonder how much time you could have saved by ignoring that insane-ist?

 

people love it, i fear i'd drive the person to a sheer heart attack in about a day after lulling him into a tepid friendship

 

i swore i would try to not kill someone like this for the next decade.

 

 

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"Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s report details the multiple contacts between Trump campaign associates and Russian operatives and cutouts. Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort met with Russians to get dirt on Hillary Clinton. Trump Jr. exchanged messages with WikiLeaks. Manafort gave campaign polling data to Konstantin Kilimnik. President Trump called for Russia to hack Clinton’s emails and was in constant touch through most of the campaign with Michael Cohen in pursuit of a Trump Tower in Moscow. Carter Page spoke to Russians in Moscow, and George Papadopoulos, a campaign foreign policy adviser, met with London-based professor Joseph Mifsud, who told him the Russians had dirt on Clinton. And the list goes on."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/22/trumps-campaign-never-tried-defend-our-democracy/?utm_term=.f305c2b0164a

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16 minutes ago, B-Man said:

DEBRA HEINE: Why Comey, Clapper, and Brennan Aggressively Pushed RussiaGate Conspiracy Theories. 

 

“They doth protest too much.”

 

 

So much projection from the Left.

 

they aborted their kids, hate their country, have drugged themselfs out of their limbic system, have never done a thing except for their selfish gratification

 

what's not to love from the Left

 

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