The Trump Economy

[keepthefaith]

On 4/4/2018 at 7:32 AM, Tiberius said:

Raise your hand if you love the idea of making shipping of Amazon stuff more expensive!! We can spend our tax cuts on higher costs of imported goods and more expensive shipping! Trumpbots will like the idea because Trump does. 

 

 

 

Amazon has started its own delivery arm and will likely offer package shipping service competitive to UPS and Fedex in the not too distant future and they're going to more self serve locations.  In some areas they already delivery most of their own packages.  They are merely renting UPS/Fedex and the USPS until they don't need much of them. 

[DC Tom]

The Constitution gives Congress the power to levy tariffs.  Congress gave it over to FDR in the '30s as part of the progressive view on trade and economic planning.  80 years later, and after 8 years of Obama, progressives have convinced everyone that there is no Congressional redress for Presidential action.  Thereby empowering Trump to seek a foolishly petulant trade war with our largest trading partner, 

 

Thanks, Progressives!  The only saving grace is that there's a chance Congress will wake up and exercise their Constitutional authority...which we never would have seen happen with Queen Hillary I.

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

The Constitution gives Congress the power to levy tariffs.  Congress gave it over to FDR in the '30s as part of the progressive view on trade and economic planning.  80 years later, and after 8 years of Obama, progressives have convinced everyone that there is no Congressional redress for Presidential action.  Thereby empowering Trump to seek a foolishly petulant trade war with our largest trading partner, 

 

Thanks, Progressives!  The only saving grace is that there's a chance Congress will wake up and exercise their Constitutional authority...which we never would have seen happen with Queen Hillary I.

Nope! Can't blame Progressives for Trump's stupidity. They were reacting to Republicans protecting big business with the Smoot Hawley Tariff which saw global trade collapse by 2/3 after it was passed. 

 

Thanks Conservatives! 

[slaphappy]

11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Nope! Can't blame Progressives for Trump's stupidity. They were reacting to Republicans protecting big business with the Smoot Hawley Tariff which saw global trade collapse by 2/3 after it was passed. 

 

Thanks Conservatives! 

Is it your position that trading cheap debt financing, sale of US owned companies and real estate to the Chinese is a sustainable trade policy? That's pretty much what we get in return. Seems to me that's just selling current and future assets for cheaper goods in the near term.

[Tiberius]

7 minutes ago, slaphappy said:

Is it your position that trading cheap debt financing, sale of US owned companies and real estate to the Chinese is a sustainable trade policy? That's pretty much what we get in return. Seems to me that's just selling current and future assets for cheaper goods in the near term.

I do see the trade policies we have in place as sustainable. What do you see happening with those issues to us? You think tariffs will fix anything? 

[3rdnlng]

40 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

The Constitution gives Congress the power to levy tariffs.  Congress gave it over to FDR in the '30s as part of the progressive view on trade and economic planning.  80 years later, and after 8 years of Obama, progressives have convinced everyone that there is no Congressional redress for Presidential action.  Thereby empowering Trump to seek a foolishly petulant trade war with our largest trading partner, 

 

Thanks, Progressives!  The only saving grace is that there's a chance Congress will wake up and exercise their Constitutional authority...which we never would have seen happen with Queen Hillary I.

You do know that Trump's pronouncement gives plenty of time to negotiate the tariffs and that the Chinese didn't even put a date on the start of their tariffs? Trump is, as usual, using them as a negotiating ploy.

[Tiberius]

7 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

You do know that Trump's pronouncement gives plenty of time to negotiate the tariffs and that the Chinese didn't even put a date on the start of their tariffs? Trump is, as usual, using them as a negotiating ploy.

Trump has a plan? Ya right, only Trumpbot losers believe that. This is all politics to keep you and the rest of his diplorables in line 

[row_33]

At the very least the US won’t be a bowing and scraping lackey dog when handling foreign trade unlike when John Kerry was giving away everything

 

john, you are a big Red Sox fan

 

John: uh.... yes I am, nothing than better than gong to Fenway to watch my favourite player Manny Ortez 

 

Golly gee, Manny !@#$in Ortez is great, ain’t he?

 

 

[3rdnlng]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trump has a plan? Ya right, only Trumpbot losers believe that. This is all politics to keep you and the rest of his diplorables in line 

Nice. At least we deplorables know how to spell it.

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

Nice. At least we deplorables know how to spell it.

You Trumpkins know that word. Gees, Trump tweets something, you guys five minutes later adopt it as your position. 

[3rdnlng]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You Trumpkins know that word. Gees, Trump tweets something, you guys five minutes later adopt it as your position. 

You have no clue what you are saying. Because of Trump our country is much better off than it was a year and a half ago.

[Taro T]

57 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

You have no clue what you are saying. Because of Trump our country is much better off than it was a year and a half ago.

 

58 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

You have no clue what you are saying. Because of Trump our country is much better off than it was a year and a half ago.

 

True.  But from his perspective is it?

 

Things keep going forward like they appear, he'll be forced to think for himself soon.  That CAN'T be good.  And is probably even a little scary too.

[Tiberius]

17 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

You have no clue what you are saying. Because of Trump our country is much better off than it was a year and a half ago.

Exactly what anyone would expect a Trumpbot to say. He can say and do and sh it anything and you would worship it 

[Juror#8]

2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

You have no clue what you are saying. Because of Trump our country is much better off than it was a year and a half ago.

 

No it’s really not. And that’s coming from someone who doesn’t necessarily mind trump. 

 

Its not really better or worse. It just is. You can point to some **** that’s better and I can point to some **** that worse. And then vice versa. What I do know is that because of trump, the freakin futures are down again and so swing trading my usually reliable retail and tech stocks is becoming an exercise in Euclidean geometry. I made a good amount of money a year and a half ago with my brokerage account and doing the undoable - timing the market. Now, because trump can’t stay off the twitter box, the market is an unpredictable mess half the time. 

 

I seriously am about to take up shorting stocks because it seems easy to establish a short position, and just wait patiently for trump to get on Twitter,  the market to tank, and then profit. 

 

That sucks. 

 

Oh and then he’s paying off porn stars (of course he’s not), and **** talking our biggest trade partners (of corse he’s not), and going golfing every other !@#$ing moment at his own resorts on tax payer dollars (of course he’s not). 

 

I want the economy to be relatively stable, the job market to not be the tank, domestic tranquility, minimal government scandals, and a sense that we aren’t on the brink of war with a nuclearized sovereign nation. 

 

Not asking a lot. 

 

Obama provided that (on the surface) and Trump is too for the most part. 

 

All the ‘trump is great and Obama was _______,’ is hyperbole and hypocritical. Cant people just call a spade a spade instead of dick licking one political party or another on a !@#$ing football forum. Or is that asking too much?

 

Not directed at any one in particular, but I seriously wonder is Barbara Boxter or Walter Mondale or Michael Dukakis booty-gooned your dad at some pivotal point in your personal and political development and forced you to watch while your mother made everyone lambskin moccasins in the adjoining room. 

 

You !@#$ing oppressively partisan dolts. 

Edited April 6, 2018 by Juror#8

[keepthefaith]

22 minutes ago, Juror#8 said:

 

No it’s really not. And that’s coming from someone who doesn’t necessarily mind trump. 

 

Its not really better or worse. It just is. You can point to some **** that’s better and I can point to some **** that worse. And then vice versa. What I do know is that because of trump, the freakin futures are down again and so swing trading my usually reliable retail and tech stocks is becoming an exercise in Euclidean geometry. I made a good amount of money a year and a half ago with my brokerage account and doing the undoable - timing the market. Now, because trump can’t stay off the twitter box, the market is an unpredictable mess half the time. 

 

I seriously am about to take up shorting stocks because it seems easy to establish a short position, and just wait patiently for trump to get on Twitter,  the market to tank, and then profit. 

 

That sucks. 

 

Oh and then he’s paying off porn stars (of course he’s not), and **** talking our biggest trade partners (of corse he’s not), and going golfing every other !@#$ing moment at his own resorts on tax payer dollars (of course he’s not). 

 

I want the economy to be relatively stable, the job market to not be the tank, domestic tranquility, minimal government scandals, and a sense that we aren’t on the brink of war with a nuclearized sovereign nation. 

 

Not asking a lot. 

 

Obama provided that (on the surface) and Trump is too for the most part. 

 

All the ‘trump is great and Obama was _______,’ is hyperbole and hypocritical. Cant people just call a spade a spade instead of dick licking one political party or another on a !@#$ing football forum. Or is that asking too much?

 

Not directed at any one in particular, but I seriously wonder is Barbara Boxter or Walter Mondale or Michael Dukakis booty-gooned your dad at some pivotal point in your personal and political development and forced you to watch while your mother made everyone lambskin moccasins in the adjoining room. 

 

You !@#$ing oppressively partisan dolts. 

 

You could have just shorted GE last year, left your position in place and gone on a lengthy vacation while making money every week.

Edited April 6, 2018 by keepthefaith

[Azalin]

53 minutes ago, Juror#8 said:

 

What I do know is that because of trump, the freakin futures are down again and so swing trading my usually reliable retail and tech stocks is becoming an exercise in Euclidean geometry.

 

 

 

All in all, my 401k has had almost a 42% gain since the Trumpster took office, but you are the first person to make me laugh at a Euclidean Geometry joke.

 

Thank you!

 

[3rdnlng]

2 hours ago, Juror#8 said:

 

No it’s really not. And that’s coming from someone who doesn’t necessarily mind trump. 

 

Its not really better or worse. It just is. You can point to some **** that’s better and I can point to some **** that worse. And then vice versa. What I do know is that because of trump, the freakin futures are down again and so swing trading my usually reliable retail and tech stocks is becoming an exercise in Euclidean geometry. I made a good amount of money a year and a half ago with my brokerage account and doing the undoable - timing the market. Now, because trump can’t stay off the twitter box, the market is an unpredictable mess half the time. 

 

I seriously am about to take up shorting stocks because it seems easy to establish a short position, and just wait patiently for trump to get on Twitter,  the market to tank, and then profit. 

 

That sucks. 

 

Oh and then he’s paying off porn stars (of course he’s not), and **** talking our biggest trade partners (of corse he’s not), and going golfing every other !@#$ing moment at his own resorts on tax payer dollars (of course he’s not). 

 

I want the economy to be relatively stable, the job market to not be the tank, domestic tranquility, minimal government scandals, and a sense that we aren’t on the brink of war with a nuclearized sovereign nation. 

 

Not asking a lot. 

 

Obama provided that (on the surface) and Trump is too for the most part. 

 

All the ‘trump is great and Obama was _______,’ is hyperbole and hypocritical. Cant people just call a spade a spade instead of dick licking one political party or another on a !@#$ing football forum. Or is that asking too much?

 

Not directed at any one in particular, but I seriously wonder is Barbara Boxter or Walter Mondale or Michael Dukakis booty-gooned your dad at some pivotal point in your personal and political development and forced you to watch while your mother made everyone lambskin moccasins in the adjoining room. 

 

You !@#$ing oppressively partisan dolts. 

Your timing is really wrong here.

[/dev/null]

6 hours ago, Juror#8 said:

 

 

Cant people just call a spade a spade

 

[Juror#8]

7 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

 

You could have just shorted GE last year, left your position in place and gone on a lengthy vacation while making money every week.

 

Man I'm still not sure if I feel comfortable shorting the market. My long plays (specifically Shopify since $55, Netflix since $104, and nvda since $81) have paid off handsomely. But it’s days when my swing plays are so far in the red that I wish that I had more confidence to establish short positions. 

[Juror#8]

5 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

Your timing is really wrong here.

 

I really hope there isn’t some issue with your family  that my post inadvertently related to. 

 

Any fun little personas on tsw notwithstanding, I’m trying to be on some real human interest **** for a minute. No bs, personally addressing someone’s family is just not part of my shtick. 

 

I even prefaced the message to avoid any attribution conundrums. I’m hoping your dad isn’t in the hospital or something. Even though I wasn’t going at your fam, I’d still feel like **** on principle. 

 

Whatever is is going on (which I hope is nothing and I’m just misunderstanding your post), my sincerest well-wishes. And that’s Jason talking, not Juror. 

1 hour ago, /dev/null said:

 

My dick isn’t racist though. It has one good eye and only sees kitty. That’s really what matters. 

Edited April 6, 2018 by Juror#8