Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Lots of the reports that came out when Pettine was here was that he simplified stuff from Rex's scheme. Here's an example: We don’t overload our guys. If you emphasize everything, you emphasize nothing, which is so true in football. “If you can just tell a player, ‘Listen, these are just the four or five things you need to worry about to do your job this week, and just make sure you take care of those,’ then the other details aren’t as important. “You don’t want to give them too much on their plate. And I think we’ve done a good job, as a staff, of compartmentalizing everybody’s job.” They players see the results, and that’s always huge. The defence’s lofty team and individual stats serve to validate Pettine’s system in their eyes. “What we’re doing works, and we can be that much better, especially when we’re at full strength,” Pettine said. http://blogs.canoe.com/krykslants/nfl/mike-pettine-explains-bills-stark-defensive-turnaround-which-includes-nfls-most-undervalued-secondary/ Sounds like exactly what the Tub of Goo is looking for. No. His rushing defense in 2011 was 13th total and 7th in YPC allowed. Really he had one bad year with the Jets in 2012 who went 6-10 and were falling apart, a bad rush year with the EJ-led Bills in 2013, while contending with a bad LB group, and then the Browns. And the way the Browns have been run in the last 5 years, I don't hold anything that happens with them against any coach. And 20th overall in points given up, and 27th in rushing TD....it's really hard to call that good. Are there extenuating circumstances for all of the bad rushing Ds? Maybe. My point is based on his record, I find it hard to be too enthused. I think he is what his record for the last 5 years says, a DC who sells out the run to attack the pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 No I want a straight up 4-3 guy. Dareus and KW are better DT's and there are only two or three true NT's in the league that can play the position effectively. Lawson is a 4-3 DE. Washington is a 4-3 DE. Hughes can play OLB or DE. Zach and Ragland finish out the starting front 7. Get rid of Preston Brown and Spikes Sign another player that can play some middle and some SAM as a swing back-up. Great points...agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Didn't they just fire two guys who preferred the 3-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Didn't they just fire two guys who preferred the 3-4? That would be salient if Pettine ran a true 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 If it's Coughlin as HC, maybe we see Perry Fewell come back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Who said it would be crazy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I bet he is in the conversation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I think he is very overrated on this board. Seemed like blitzing the QB was his only goal...he neglected the run defense +1. His run defense sucked before Schwartz got it right. I would say no to Pettine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Yes, bringing back Pettine is a crazy idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manbeast Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 No I want a straight up 4-3 guy. Dareus and KW are better DT's and there are only two or three true NT's in the league that can play the position effectively. Lawson is a 4-3 DE. Washington is a 4-3 DE. Hughes can play OLB or DE. Zach and Ragland finish out the starting front 7. Get rid of Preston Brown and Spikes Sign another player that can play some middle and some SAM as a swing back-up. 4-3 DEs do not generally sit at 6'4"-295lbs. Not impossible but he's a 3-4 DE,DT, or 4-3 DT. (Washington) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 4-3 DEs do not generally sit at 6'4"-295lbs. Not impossible but he's a 3-4 DE,DT, or 4-3 DT. (Washington) No way Washington EVER plays a 4-3 DE, IMO. Best bet is a rotational guy with Kyle and his eventual replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 4-3 4-3 4-3 Our defense is still better suited to play 4-3. 3/4 of our dline is set and that's where our money is for the next few years. We need safety help and a cb if we switch or not. But by going to a 4-3,we go back to fitting a square peg in a square hole. As opposed to Rex trying to fit that same square peg in a round hole. We are still not even close to having 3-4 personnel. Jmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 No move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Yes. ^^^ This... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 No to Pettine. His defense was gashed by the run as well. We need to run a 4-3 with our personnel. It best suits us. We need to run a system like we did back in the early 2000's on that side of the ball. Get safety help and let's roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Crazy idea? Yes. He's been figured out because it's really Ryan's defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Yep. Just say no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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