B-Man Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) BEN RHODES: Trump’s Cuba Policy Will Fail. Rhodes of course is famous (infamous?) for building an Obama Administration “echo chamber” in the American media to sell the Iran nuclear deal. Rhodes also personally insulted that same press, saying, “The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns… They literally know nothing.” That The Atlantic should chose to host someone who admits to using and abusing the press reveals much about that publication’s standards. https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/267721/ Edited June 16, 2017 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 BEN RHODES: Trump’s Cuba Policy Will Fail. Rhodes of course is famous (infamous?) for building an Obama Administration “echo chamber” in the American media to sell the Iran nuclear deal. Rhodes also personally insulted that same press, saying, “The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns… They literally know nothing.” That The Atlantic should chose to host someone who admits to using and abusing the press reveals much about that publication’s standards. https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/267721/ OMG, he insulted the media? He needs to be stopped!! B-Man you insulted the media everyday, why the double standard? Or don't you read the stuff you are paid to post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Last year progressives cheered when then-President Obama loosened trade and other restrictions against Cuba. Obama celebrated in that country with Raul Castro. Today President Trump is in Miami announcing a re-tightening of those restrictions, to the cheers of many in Miami’s Little Havana The Associated Press ✔@AP BREAKING: Trump announces changes to Obama-era Cuba policy, challenges Castro government to negotiate a better deal Pres Trump revels in prolonged standing ovation as he takes stage to deliver speech on US-Cuba policy. President Trump says Obama deal with Castro regime was misguided, and enriched only the Cuban Government. "Now those days are over." He calls on Castro Regime to end abuse of dissidents, release all political prisoners, open Cuba to freedom & return US fugitives. Former Obama Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes was not only critical of Trump, but also those at his event supporting the move: Follow Ben Rhodes ✔@brhodes The people in Miami enabling Trump in carrying out this charade should be embarrassed/ held accountable. He could care less about Cubans 1:43 PM - 16 Jun 2017 How should Cuban refugees who fled Castro's regime be "held accountable" for opposing Castro, Ben? Be specific. Right Ben, what would this woman know about anything? https:// twitter.com/CNNPolitics/st atus/875771576226021378 Rhodes is in no position to be doing any legacy lecturing: So other than pallets of cash to gay-hating mullahs & leaving 4 Americans to die in Benghazi, how's that Legacy thing working out. https:// twitter.com/brhodes/status /875770884161773569 … Dissidents are STILL being carried away in #Cuba, and all your former boss (Obama) did was pose in front of a Che Guevara mural. Ass. https://twitter.com/brhodes/status/875770884161773569 … … Man who concocted false stories to feed idiot reporters to help terriorist sponsors go nuclear is whining about accountability. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Russia to treat US jets in Syria as 'targets' after America guns down first regime warplane Russia has said it will treat US warplanes operating in parts of Syria where its air forces are present as "targets" amid a diplomatic row caused by the downing of a Syrian jet. The country's defence ministry said the change in position would apply to all aircraft, including those operating as part of the US-backed coalition. It will also suspend a hotline between Russia and the US set up to prevent mid-air collisions. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-shoot-down-all-flying-objects-in-syria-us-regime-warplane-isis-terror-a7797101.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Totally a bluff. Trump is a Russian plant. This is just to make us think Trump isn't Putin's B word Duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Totally a bluff. Trump is a Russian plant. This is just to make us think Trump isn't Putin's B word Duh Gone are the days when the American voting populace could sniff out a Soviet Puppet like McGovern and Carter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 LONDON — President Trump has done business with royals from Saudi Arabia for at least 20 years, since he sold the Plaza Hotel to a partnership formed by a Saudi prince. Mr. Trump has earned millions of dollars from the United Arab Emirates for putting his name on a golf course, with a second soon to open. He has never entered the booming market in neighboring Qatar, however, despite years of trying. Now a feud has broken out among these three crucial American allies, and Mr. Trump has thrown his weight firmly behind the two countries where he has business ties, raising new concerns about the appearance of a conflict between his public role and his financial incentives. Mr. Trump has said he is backing Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates because Qatar is “a funder of terror at a very high level.” But his stance toward Qatar, which is host to the largest American air base in the region, has differed sharply from the positions of the Pentagon and State Department. The secretaries of defense and state have stayed neutral, urging unity against the common enemy of the Islamic State. “Other countries in the Middle East see what is happening and may think, ‘We should be opening golf courses’ or ‘We should be buying rooms at the Trump International,’” said Brian Egan, a State Department legal adviser under the Obama administration. “Even if there is no nefarious intent on behalf of the president or the Trumps, for a president to be making money from business holdings in sensitive places around the world is likely to have an impact.” A spokesman for the White House declined to address questions about the appearance of a conflict of interest. Then Mr. Trump defended the blockade again just hours after Mr. Tillerson had urged an end to it. “The time had come to call on Qatar to end its funding” of terrorism, Mr. Trump said. The Saudis “buy apartments from me,” he said in August 2015 at a rally in Mobile, Ala. “They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.” https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/17/world/middleeast/trumps-business-ties-in-persian-gulf-raise-questions-about-his-allegiances.html?mcubz=1&_r=0 So now our foreign policy is dependent on Trump's business contacts? Add this to the articles of impeachment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 If wannabe king Obuma didn't get impeached with his Muslim brotherhood buddies in his administration then there is zero chance Trump will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 If wannabe king Obuma didn't get impeached with his Muslim brotherhood buddies in his administration then there is zero chance Trump will be So because of fake news and false equivalency Trump should not get impeached? You are Trump's kind of voter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Russia to treat US jets in Syria as 'targets' after America guns down first regime warplane Russia has said it will treat US warplanes operating in parts of Syria where its air forces are present as "targets" amid a diplomatic row caused by the downing of a Syrian jet. The country's defence ministry said the change in position would apply to all aircraft, including those operating as part of the US-backed coalition. It will also suspend a hotline between Russia and the US set up to prevent mid-air collisions. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/russia-shoot-down-all-flying-objects-in-syria-us-regime-warplane-isis-terror-a7797101.html Of course left out of that equation is the fact the US shot down a Syrian fighter who was targeting ISIS forces. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/18/us-led-coalition-shoots-down-pro-assad-fighter-jets-after-attack-on-partner-forces.html Once again we see a concrete example of the battlefield alliance forged between the US and ISIS. The enemy of our enemy is our friend... even when that "friend" is a terrorist group that burns children alive and actively targets western civilians in cities across Europe and the US. But we can't talk about that, because "we must stand up to Russia" - even if it means siding with monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Of course left out of that equation is the fact the US shot down a Syrian fighter who was targeting ISIS forces. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/18/us-led-coalition-shoots-down-pro-assad-fighter-jets-after-attack-on-partner-forces.html Once again we see a concrete example of the battlefield alliance forged between the US and ISIS. The enemy of our enemy is our friend... even when that "friend" is a terrorist group that burns children alive and actively targets western civilians in cities across Europe and the US. But we can't talk about that, because "we must stand up to Russia" - even if it means siding with monsters. Whatever happens it will be seen as horrible by the media and the dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Whatever happens it will be seen as horrible by the media and the dems. True but... This is bigger than partisanship imo and cuts right to the heart of who really dictates policy in this country. It's not the dems or the republicans and is sure as **** ain't the voters or the will of the people. It's the MiC and its various deep state entities who want perpetual war and the profits that come with it.The desire for this perpetual war is so blatant that they are willing to shoot down a Syrian jet, inside Syria's sovereign borders (despite the US being uninvited into their airspace), and risk escalating the conflict there to a shooting war between US and Russian forces all to... protect ISIS fighters on the ground who oppose Assad. The same ISIS group we're supposedly fighting to the death a few miles away in Iraq, the same ISIS group the media and western mouthpieces have built up to be the reason why western governments need to restrict constitutional protections and civil liberties. Add this to the blatant war crime committed in September of 2016 designed to shred the cease fire and prolong the violence on the ground. This isn't a humanitarian mission for the US, and it never has been. This is about bleeding Russians and removing Assad so he can be replaced by someone (ISIS and AQ fighters) who will make better deals for the transnational corporations and banks who want to move into Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 It's complicated. But going against the landslide will of The People just for spite and suckybabies over losing is all the Dems are good for any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) Armed Russian jet comes within 5 feet of US recon jet Baltic Sea The Russian Su-27 jet had missiles under its wings and approached the U.S. Air Force RC-135 recon jet "rapidly," coming within five feet of the American aircraft, the officials said http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/20/breaking-news-armed-russian-jet-comes-within-5-feet-us-recon-jet.html US responds to Russian threat after shoot-down of Syrian jet U.S. pilots operating over Syria won't hesitate to defend themselves from Russian threats, a Pentagon spokesperson said Monday in the latest escalation between the two superpowers since a U.S. jet shot down a Syrian aircraft on Sunday. "We do not seek conflict with any party in Syria other than ISIS, but we will not hesitate to defend ourselves or our partners if threatened," Capt. Jeff Davis told Fox News. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/19/us-shoot-down-syrian-jet-prompts-russian-threat.html US fighter jets have shot down an Iran-made Syrian drone after it came within firing range of US troops, US reports claim. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3842416/us-fighter-jet-shoots-down-syrian-drone/ Edited June 20, 2017 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Of course left out of that equation is the fact the US shot down a Syrian fighter who was targeting ISIS forces. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/18/us-led-coalition-shoots-down-pro-assad-fighter-jets-after-attack-on-partner-forces.html Once again we see a concrete example of the battlefield alliance forged between the US and ISIS. The enemy of our enemy is our friend... even when that "friend" is a terrorist group that burns children alive and actively targets western civilians in cities across Europe and the US. But we can't talk about that, because "we must stand up to Russia" - even if it means siding with monsters. It didn't say SDF was ISIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 "We do not seek conflict with any party in Syria other than ISIS" A lie. ISIS is our ally in Syria. Hence the reason we shot down a Russian jet trying to fire on ISIS fighters in the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 A lie. ISIS is our ally in Syria. Hence the reason we shot down a Russian jet trying to fire on ISIS fighters in the region. I thought (chuckle) that (tee hee) ISIS was a (bwaa hah hah) Junior Varsity thing that was fizzling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) I thought (chuckle) that (tee hee) ISIS was a (bwaa hah hah) Junior Varsity thing that was fizzling out. They might have fizzled out had the USIC not decided it was more important to use them as a proxy to overthrow Assad in 2011. Now they're our chums on the ground in Syria and we are actively helping them oust Assad so the "moderate" jihadists can take over Syria and cut the west better business deals (after they cut the heads off every Christian, Jew and Secularist in Syria of course - but that's the price of doing business). We're even shooting down Syrian jets, in Syrian airspace, and risking a shooting war with Russia just so we can keep on supporting folks who burn babies, blow up children, and target the west in acts of cowardly jihad. But we can't admit that. The propaganda machine will distract you from that reality as much as they can because they know it's a bad look. Edited June 20, 2017 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 A lie. ISIS is our ally in Syria. Hence the reason we shot down a Russian jet trying to fire on ISIS fighters in the region. Are you sure they were not Kurdish SDF , honest ? I believe the US and ISIS connection in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Are you sure they were not Kurdish SDF , honest ? I believe the US and ISIS connection in the past. The Kurds are there as well and our allies. They weren't the only targets of that attack that led to the shoot down (it was a cluster of fighters targeted, not all of which were SDF) - the initial reports, before the state department pulled them, coupled with contacts of operators in the AO confirmed as much to me personally. The area where the incident occurred is only a few miles from where the September '16 bombing happened that shredded the cease fire. It's an ISIS controlled region. ISIS, AQ and the US continue to work closely together in Syria while just a few miles away they're fighting one another in Iraq (when they aren't running arms into Syria through Iraq and giving them to ISIS/AQ fighters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Thanks D.R. I really respect your insight . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Thanks D.R. I really respect your insight . This just is my bugaboo, don't mean to come off so hot. The more I've learned about the realities on the ground over there the more disappointing it gets. We're better as a country than we're showing ourselves to be in Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I've done a search on Otto Warmbier and have seen nothing turn up. Given how excited the left was when he was sentenced, I would have figured they would be giving a Benghazi-like cheer for his death. Just in case you weren't paying attention, the left never misses an opportunity to leverage the death of a white man to their narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I've done a search on Otto Warmbier and have seen nothing turn up. Given how excited the left was when he was sentenced, I would have figured they would be giving a Benghazi-like cheer for his death. Just in case you weren't paying attention, the left never misses an opportunity to leverage the death of a white man to their narrative. You have GOT to be kidding me. Man !@#$ these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I've done a search on Otto Warmbier and have seen nothing turn up. Given how excited the left was when he was sentenced, I would have figured they would be giving a Benghazi-like cheer for his death. Just in case you weren't paying attention, the left never misses an opportunity to leverage the death of a white man to their narrative are you serious ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 are you serious ? It doesn't get much better. Here is a now-deleted tweet from Affinity Magazine. Apparently Otto found a place where white privilege doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) I still do not see why Otto deserved a death penalty 15 years of hard labor for stealing a banner , give me a break Edited June 20, 2017 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I've done a search on Otto Warmbier and have seen nothing turn up. Given how excited the left was when he was sentenced, I would have figured they would be giving a Benghazi-like cheer for his death. Just in case you weren't paying attention, the left never misses an opportunity to leverage the death of a white man to their narrative. That is !@#$ing ridiculous. I still do not see why Otto deserved a death penalty 15 years of hard labor for stealing a banner , give me a break Unlike the United States, most countries' leaders will actually enforce their laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) Unlike the United States, most countries' leaders will actually enforce their laws. in Otto's case , for his very minor offense, seriously Tom In any normal country he would have been given a fine , yes or no ? Edited June 21, 2017 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 in Otto's case , for his very minor offense, seriously Tom In any normal country he would have been given a fine , yes or no ? He wasn't in a normal country, and he knew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 He wasn't in a normal country, and he knew it. true, but not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 true, but not right Of course it's not right, but the guy traveled into North !@#$ing Korea. That's a monumental !@#$ing feat. The fact that he was able to do so in and of itself is an incredible indicator that he knew exactly what he was doing, and the severity of the consequences were he to be caught. He's a !@#$ing moron who brought this down on himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 For once tasker, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 in Otto's case , for his very minor offense, seriously Tom In any normal country he would have been given a fine , yes or no ? It wasn't a minor offense under North Korean law, was it? Of course it's not right, but the guy traveled into North !@#$ing Korea. That's a monumental !@#$ing feat. The fact that he was able to do so in and of itself is an incredible indicator that he knew exactly what he was doing, and the severity of the consequences were he to be caught. He's a !@#$ing moron who brought this down on himself. It's actually pretty easy to travel to the DPRK. You just sign up and pay for an excursion with - no **** - Young Pioneer Tours, who specialize in vacation tours marketed to the die-hard communist tourist desiring a visit to fraternal socialist countries like North Korea. A dedicated communist experienced communism up close. I have little sympathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 We all knew not to try to steal those little carved bears in Russian hotel rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) For once tasker, I agree. Did I miss something about any actual evidence that he committed the crime of which he was accused? I saw an interview with his roommate for the trip which cast a lot of doubt on the claim. Clearly the punishment did not fit the crime, unless you strip all logic away from it, but was there actually even a crime? Why would N. Korea be believed about this? He was detained at the airport days after the supposed crime. Why not right away? I grant that he made a gigantic mistake if he took the poster and that only added to his initial mistake of going there in the first place. The people spitting on his grave with tweets about white privilege and/or the North Korean health care system? I don't really have words for that. I remember the outrage at a semi-capitalist country caning a kid that went on for weeks, but when it is a commie country 15 years hard labor, a coma and death is the fault of the white kid. Edited June 21, 2017 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Did I miss something about any actual evidence that he committed the crime of which he was accused? I saw an interview with his roommate for the trip which cast a lot of doubt on the claim. Clearly the punishment did not fit the crime, unless you strip all logic away from it, but was there actually even a crime? Why would N. Korea be believed about this? He was detained at the airport days after the supposed crime. Why not right away? I grant that he made a gigantic mistake if he took the poster and that only added to his initial mistake of going there in the first place. The people spitting on his grave with tweets about white privilege and/or the North Korean health care system? I don't really have words for that. I remember the outrage at a semi-capitalist country caning a kid that went on for weeks, but when it is a commie country 15 years hard labor, a coma and death is the fault of the white kid. The point is, the kid had multiple layers of stupid: 1) travelling to NK 2) stealing a poster in NK 3) getting caught stealing a poster in NK these were all completely avoidable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 The point is, the kid had multiple layers of stupid: 1) travelling to NK 2) stealing a poster in NK 3) getting caught stealing a poster in NK these were all completely avoidable. Did I miss where 2 & 3 were actually shown to be true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Did I miss where 2 & 3 were actually shown to be true? No, he was framed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 No, he was framed. Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. I have since looked around on the web and saw the CCTV video of "him" stealing the poster. I'm not saying it couldn't have been him but seriously? Is there more? It looks like it could have been Tom Cruise. The paraded confession is beyond absurd. Methodists and the Obama administration put him up to this super secret mission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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