Keukasmallies Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Good to see POTUS taking a stand against the hacking brouhaha that has emerged in the last two weeks (Well, actually several months earlier than that, but POTUS decided not to mention it at the time. I think he was saving his umbrage 'til he saw who won the election.). Now that the election is over, POTUS can unleash his full powers of response. There are rumors that he'll draw a red line in the snow (after all it's Moscow, not Baghdad) and dare Russia to do something about it. In preparation for drawing the red line, he has alerted the Department of Agriculture to be prepared for a new round of total bull ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 He will unleash a cyber attack in the form of a strongly worded email that will say: "Not funny, Vlad. Sincerely yours, Barak" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 If the DNC was held to the same level of responsibility as many of our corporations, once they were hacked, and privileged info was released, there would have been an investigation into their security practices. They would likely be leveled with a huge fine. But I'm sure the President will be defending those corporations as well since they were also victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted December 16, 2016 Author Share Posted December 16, 2016 If the DNC was held to the same level of responsibility as many of our corporations, once they were hacked, and privileged info was released, there would have been an investigation into their security practices. They would likely be leveled with a huge fine. But I'm sure the President will be defending those corporations as well since they were also victims. He sure will; that's what a President for all the people just naturally does. And we all know he's....Oh, wait a minute, that doesn't include the folks living in the middle does it...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Corporation gets hacked - Punish the corporation. DNC gets hacked - Threaten other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 He sure will; that's what a President for all the people just naturally does. And we all know he's....Oh, wait a minute, that doesn't include the folks living in the middle does it...? What components has DT shown so far that you think are going to make the middle class better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) Back to the subject of the thread................... Russia challenges US to prove election hacking claims or shut up http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/16/europe/russia-us-hacking-claims-peskov/ White House suggests Putin was involved in US hacking Associated Press Original Article Not a "smidgen" of proof has been offered to back up claim. Edited December 16, 2016 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Sounds like Russia has crossed a red line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 What components has DT shown so far that you think are going to make the middle class better? Ah, let's do our best to hijack this thread by changing the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 So just so I'm clear: back in 2012, calling Russia our "number one geopolitical foe" was something Obama called an inaccurate throwback to Cold War geopolitics after he "successfully reset" relations after the unnecessary friction of the Bush administration, but four years later Obama is saber-rattling against Russia based on questionable intelligence whilst criticizing Trump's desire to "reset" relations with Russia...and liberals are afraid Trump is going to start a nuclear war? Really...what the !@#$? Is gatorman suddenly running things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 So just so I'm clear: back in 2012, calling Russia our "number one geopolitical foe" was something Obama called an inaccurate throwback to Cold War geopolitics after he "successfully reset" relations after the unnecessary friction of the Bush administration, but four years later Obama is saber-rattling against Russia based on questionable intelligence whilst criticizing Trump's desire to "reset" relations with Russia...and liberals are afraid Trump is going to start a nuclear war? Really...what the !@#$? Is gatorman suddenly running things? Ya, reacting to an attack, who would think we should respond! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 So do these lasted revelations of Russian involvement in the campaign in support of Trump endanger the legitimacy of Trump's inauguration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Ya, reacting to an attack, who would think we should respond! [This is an automated response.] You're an idiot. Created by DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Why come down "hard" on the Russians for this but not this? http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-hack-almost-brought-the-u-s-military-to-its-knees/ Or this? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36933239 Or this? http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/07/politics/how-russians-hacked-the-wh/ Or this? http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/cyberattack-pentagons-joint-staff-emails-take-system-offline-n405321\ Or this? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-14/cyberspace-becomes-second-front-in-russia-s-clash-with-nato I could go on and on. Oh and those questions? Rhetorical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Obama opened MS Paint and drew a red line. Russians leaked the .BMP file to Wikileaks. Josh Ernest claims it was drawn by some low level staffer that has since relieved of duties Fox News reports the red line came from a senior official MSNBC questions why cyber security has become so lax under President-Elect Trump Obama laments people getting "fake news" from Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Why come down "hard" on the Russians for this but not this? http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russian-hack-almost-brought-the-u-s-military-to-its-knees/ Hacked the government email system? Were there classified documents on them? So Hillary's email was safer on Google? I thought she was suppose to be safe on the government one? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Hacked the government email system? Were there classified documents on them? So Hillary's email was safer on Google? I thought she was suppose to be safe on the government one? Lol Her email was safer on her personal server? Please explain how you know this. Anyway care to address the point I was making? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Her email was safer on her personal server? Please explain how you know this. It was safe from Congressional oversight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Meanwhile, China commits an act of war against the US... Seizes US underwater drone. And we all know how fond of drones B. O. is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Meanwhile, China commits an act of war against the US... Seizes US underwater drone. And we all know how fond of drones B. O. is. That's not really an act of war. Total dick move...but rather like stealing a Humvee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I thought they had little dicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/15/sheriff-joe-arpaio-probe-proves-obama-birth-certificate-fake/95500958/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 That's not really an act of war. Total dick move...but rather like stealing a Humvee. Yeah, snagging a hummer is more along the lines of an impeachable offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Hack the election - who cares? But steal our drone - the Markets start to tank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/15/sheriff-joe-arpaio-probe-proves-obama-birth-certificate-fake/95500958/ [This is an automated response.] You're an idiot. Created by DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 [This is an automated response.] You're an idiot. Created by DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.2. Most of your posts now involve the word "idiot" Very fitting for a loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Most of your posts now involve the word "idiot" Very fitting for a loser [This is an automated response.] You're an idiot. Created by DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I don't see how there's anything we can do, there's too many socio-economic ties at risk. It's basically just lip service. Same thing when it comes to anything China does that we don't like. Obama, Trump, it really doesn't matter who is in charge, there's not much that can be done without some serious consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I don't see how there's anything we can do, there's too many socio-economic ties at risk. It's basically just lip service. Same thing when it comes to anything China does that we don't like. Obama, Trump, it really doesn't matter who is in charge, there's not much that can be done without some serious consequences. Which is why it's so dangerous and short sighted to be whipping the country up into a frenzy and calling it an act of war when the evidence is circumstantial at best. We know the neocon wing of CIA wants regime change in Moscow and aren't afraid to fight a war to get it -- but how bout the rest of the left? (yes, the neocons are now leading the left down this red-baiting path -- something that should alarm most thinking liberals). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Which is why it's so dangerous and short sighted to be whipping the country up into a frenzy and calling it an act of war when the evidence is circumstantial at best. We know the neocon wing of CIA wants regime change in Moscow and aren't afraid to fight a war to get it -- but how bout the rest of the left? (yes, the neocons are now leading the left down this red-baiting path -- something that should alarm most thinking liberals). Proof that neocons are willing to go to war with Russia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Proof that neocons are willing to go to war with Russia? http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-idUSKCN11N062 You know, the incident you've been running from for months. The one where we deliberately killed Syrian troops in an effort to shred the cease fire, help ISIS, and pick a fight with Russia. This was followed up by HRC and her neocon advisers pushing for No Fly Zones in Syria -- which could only be accomplished by destroying Russian SAM sites manned by Russian troops. All that on top of their stated desire, on multiple occasions by multiple neocon leaders, that regime change in Moscow is their ultimate goal. Oh, wait. That's right. They don't want war. They just want to wish for a better life for people in Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Reminder: The casual reader of newspaper headlines might well believe that the Russian government hacked into voting machines, or something of the sort, to influence the presidential election. But that is not the case. If you read the Washington Post story (and NYTIMES) , they are merely talking about the well-known hacks of Democratic National Committee and John Podesta emails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Press conference starting... This will be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Press conference starting... This will be fun. Are the Russians going to hack it so we accidentally hear the truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Me, me, me, I, I, I, me, me, me, I, I, I.... all credit to me, I, I, I, I'm done. wake me when this "FAKE NEWS" conference is over. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 "Including John Podesta's risotto recipe".... PG plug, right on cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-idUSKCN11N062 You know, the incident you've been running from for months. The one where we deliberately killed Syrian troops in an effort to shred the cease fire, help ISIS, and pick a fight with Russia. This was followed up by HRC and her neocon advisers pushing for No Fly Zones in Syria -- which could only be accomplished by destroying Russian SAM sites manned by Russian troops. All that on top of their stated desire, on multiple occasions by multiple neocon leaders, that regime change in Moscow is their ultimate goal. Oh, wait. That's right. They don't want war. They just want to wish for a better life for people in Russia. By that standard, Turkey is also itching to start a shooting war with Russia, since they actually hit a real Russian jet. love your ongoing leap of logic that US isn't trying to limit more carnage in Syria but is provoking a war with Russia. How's this, if Russia troops don't enter Syria in the first place, there's no fear of their troops getting caught in the cross fire. Who are the neocon leaders calling for regime change, btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) One more........................... he says he met Putin personally and told him to “ cut it out !” and nothing else happened after that Does ANYONE believe that ?? “and upset that the media was obsessed with writing stories” Well, the stories about the DNC emails were just all about the corruption of the Democrat nominee. I’d say that was pretty relevant to the election. What a joke he is...................... Edited December 16, 2016 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) By that standard, Turkey is also itching to start a shooting war with Russia, since they actually hit a real Russian jet. love your ongoing leap of logic that US isn't trying to limit more carnage in Syria but is provoking a war with Russia. How's this, if Russia troops don't enter Syria in the first place, there's no fear of their troops getting caught in the cross fire. Who are the neocon leaders calling for regime change, btw? WHATABOUTISMS! It's all GG's got. Run away from the issue and change the topic, it's all you got. Your spinelessness on this issue and your blind jingoism has become a joke. A three hour, sustained bombing campaign in an area JSOC knew like the back of their hand which targeted a known Syrian/Russian FOB, followed immediately by an ISIS advance that retook territory they had lost a week before is deliberate and intentional. It wasn't an accident. It was designed to shred the cease fire, kill Syrians and Russians and to help a known US enemy retake territory. If you don't think that's proof that the neocon wing are willing to risk war with Russia to push their backwards, outdated, and completely rejected agenda then you need to wake up. Russian troops didn't "enter" Syria. They were invited. Unlike the foreign jihadists we funded, armed and trained (directly or through proxies) and sent streaming across the Syrian borders for years. You're so incapable of being objective in this you should just stop. (And it's hilariously neocon of you to say the US was trying to limit the carnage by violating a cease fire AND dropping bombs ) Edited December 16, 2016 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 ********************** One of the reporters got sick from all the BS being shoveled I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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