peterpan Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Refs and league favorability. The pats have cheated for 15+ years. They cheated in EVERY season they won a super bowl. No wins vacated, no tropfies confiscated, nothing. Brady is protected like the crown jewels while QBs like Cam Newton is destroyed weekly and nothing. Pats OL is allowed to hold like crazy. Randy moss and Gronk get away with push offs that no one else gets away with. PI that gets called against the bills wont get called against the cheaters. Seattle has basically won 3 games given to them by poor officiating this year. Maybe they win 1 or two of those games without the help but still, give the bills 2 freebie wins last year and they make the playoffs. No one cared about the Pats in the 1900s. No one. Yet its a huge huge market so the league turned them around and lets them cheat for the CA$H Seattle is a huge booming city with new young people moving there and the NFL sees CA$H. So they are favored. The raiders are on the uptake. Normally the NFL would keep them in the dirt because Al Davis pissed them off years ago. But because they may stay or they may move the NFL wants them to win to drum up support and money for the new team. The Rams just moved the LA and they need to establish a fan base. I expect them to be in the NFC championship game in 3 years, just when they are starting to sell their PSLs for the new stadium. MARK MY WORDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 After the loss, that familiar feeling of a season lost sunk in. So, yes. So congrats on sticking with the Bills! Seriously, I know you're a true fan....good on you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 it's a belief thing. leadership on all sides of the ball. i dont think we have it on the offense. tyrod needs to step up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 Refs and league favorability. The pats have cheated for 15+ years. They cheated in EVERY season they won a super bowl. No wins vacated, no tropfies confiscated, nothing. Brady is protected like the crown jewels while QBs like Cam Newton is destroyed weekly and nothing. Pats OL is allowed to hold like crazy. Randy moss and Gronk get away with push offs that no one else gets away with. PI that gets called against the bills wont get called against the cheaters. Seattle has basically won 3 games given to them by poor officiating this year. Maybe they win 1 or two of those games without the help but still, give the bills 2 freebie wins last year and they make the playoffs. No one cared about the Pats in the 1900s. No one. Yet its a huge huge market so the league turned them around and lets them cheat for the CA$H Seattle is a huge booming city with new young people moving there and the NFL sees CA$H. So they are favored. The raiders are on the uptake. Normally the NFL would keep them in the dirt because Al Davis pissed them off years ago. But because they may stay or they may move the NFL wants them to win to drum up support and money for the new team. The Rams just moved the LA and they need to establish a fan base. I expect them to be in the NFC championship game in 3 years, just when they are starting to sell their PSLs for the new stadium. MARK MY WORDS See this is where I'm at. If we start playing dirty and cheat CONSTANTLY, then we'll get away with it like NE and Seattle do. DO IT FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell Tarly Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Refs and league favorability. The pats have cheated for 15+ years. They cheated in EVERY season they won a super bowl. No wins vacated, no tropfies confiscated, nothing. Brady is protected like the crown jewels while QBs like Cam Newton is destroyed weekly and nothing. Pats OL is allowed to hold like crazy. Randy moss and Gronk get away with push offs that no one else gets away with. PI that gets called against the bills wont get called against the cheaters. Seattle has basically won 3 games given to them by poor officiating this year. Maybe they win 1 or two of those games without the help but still, give the bills 2 freebie wins last year and they make the playoffs. No one cared about the Pats in the 1900s. No one. Yet its a huge huge market so the league turned them around and lets them cheat for the CA$H Seattle is a huge booming city with new young people moving there and the NFL sees CA$H. So they are favored. The raiders are on the uptake. Normally the NFL would keep them in the dirt because Al Davis pissed them off years ago. But because they may stay or they may move the NFL wants them to win to drum up support and money for the new team. The Rams just moved the LA and they need to establish a fan base. I expect them to be in the NFC championship game in 3 years, just when they are starting to sell their PSLs for the new stadium. MARK MY WORDS So you're saying follow the money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Refs and league favorability. The pats have cheated for 15+ years. They cheated in EVERY season they won a super bowl. No wins vacated, no tropfies confiscated, nothing. Brady is protected like the crown jewels while QBs like Cam Newton is destroyed weekly and nothing. Pats OL is allowed to hold like crazy. Randy moss and Gronk get away with push offs that no one else gets away with. PI that gets called against the bills wont get called against the cheaters. Seattle has basically won 3 games given to them by poor officiating this year. Maybe they win 1 or two of those games without the help but still, give the bills 2 freebie wins last year and they make the playoffs. No one cared about the Pats in the 1900s. No one. Yet its a huge huge market so the league turned them around and lets them cheat for the CA$H Seattle is a huge booming city with new young people moving there and the NFL sees CA$H. So they are favored. The raiders are on the uptake. Normally the NFL would keep them in the dirt because Al Davis pissed them off years ago. But because they may stay or they may move the NFL wants them to win to drum up support and money for the new team. The Rams just moved the LA and they need to establish a fan base. I expect them to be in the NFC championship game in 3 years, just when they are starting to sell their PSLs for the new stadium. MARK MY WORDS fascinating take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 So, there's a game with a predetermined time limit. At the end, one team has more points, they win. The other team loses. Thanks for the question. I'll be here all day. Yeah, kinda like that other futbol...The formal time runs out, then just add some minutes (keep it quiet, though), play for a bit, then just stop and declare a winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 The Bills lost because they failed to execute using the strength of their game. Good teams go to what they do best when the game is on the line. The Bills had a chance to win this game at the end. First and goal from the Seattle 10 with 1:01 left. A run for 3, QB sacked twice, and an incomplete pass. Game over. They failed to understand they controlled the outcome of the game, not the clock, not the Seahawks. They should have run the ball 4 straight plays which is the strength of their offense. Instead they attempted to win the game with 3 straight unsuccessful pass plays using the weakest element of their offense against a good secondary in tight to the goal line that gets away with a lot of contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 A good team overcomes the terrible officiating and does what it takes under pressure. We used to do that with Kelly and co so well in the 90s. For 16 years though we dont have the people to get it done under pressure. The refs are way worse than 20 years ago and make several impactfully bad calls a game. You need a team with poise, swagger and balls to compensate. We dont have that, at least yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) The OP called WGR post game. A good team overcomes the terrible officiating and does what it takes under pressure. We used to do that with Kelly and co so well in the 90s. For 16 years though we dont have the people to get it done under pressure. The refs are way worse than 20 years ago and make several impactfully bad calls a game. You need a team with poise, swagger and balls to compensate. We dont have that, at least yet!Orrrrr...good teams are favored by officials? They don't get hosed. Edited November 8, 2016 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 The Buffalo Bills have a "losing culture," after 15 years of poor coaching, poor FO, poor scouting, and really lousy drafting. Until they clean house completely and find winners that refuse to lose, we will keep getting the SOS! Where else but Buffalo can you assume HC duties, let the DC walk, destroy the 4th ranked defense (2014) and replace it with what we have now and still sell out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 The score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 im going to go with the fact that the Bills starting C was out, and replaced by an inferior player. A Lynn knew the situation with the time remaining and decided to run the ball withMcCoy. It was not very effective, and SEA was keying on the run at that point. He decided to let his QB try to win the game by having the threat of a run even though a pass play was called. SEA overwhelmed the inferior player in the middle of the OLine and got away with a huge push in the end zone on fourth down. I have no doubt the Bills score a TD there if Wood is in the lineup. Simple as that. Zero to do with legacies, past games , history, or winners / losers. Oh, and factor in a ridiculously botched call before halftime and the Bills may have kicked a fg and went to OT. This was all about who was on the field for the Bills and the SEA taking liberties as usual because they know these incompetent officials will be reluctant to enforce the rules at the end of the game . Especially on fourth down. Why make it out to be more than what it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 The scenario at the end of the game perfectly exposed Tyrod's weaknesses, as good of a game as he had. He is not going to march the team down the field throwing strikes and put the ball in the end zone for the big win with time pressure. That's more than he can do. Now and again, that will catch the team out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Rex Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Refs and league favorability. The pats have cheated for 15+ years. They cheated in EVERY season they won a super bowl. No wins vacated, no tropfies confiscated, nothing. Brady is protected like the crown jewels while QBs like Cam Newton is destroyed weekly and nothing. Pats OL is allowed to hold like crazy. Randy moss and Gronk get away with push offs that no one else gets away with. PI that gets called against the bills wont get called against the cheaters. Seattle has basically won 3 games given to them by poor officiating this year. Maybe they win 1 or two of those games without the help but still, give the bills 2 freebie wins last year and they make the playoffs. No one cared about the Pats in the 1900s. No one. Yet its a huge huge market so the league turned them around and lets them cheat for the CA$H Seattle is a huge booming city with new young people moving there and the NFL sees CA$H. So they are favored. The raiders are on the uptake. Normally the NFL would keep them in the dirt because Al Davis pissed them off years ago. But because they may stay or they may move the NFL wants them to win to drum up support and money for the new team. The Rams just moved the LA and they need to establish a fan base. I expect them to be in the NFC championship game in 3 years, just when they are starting to sell their PSLs for the new stadium. MARK MY WORDS The 1900s sound like a long time ago.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 The 1900s sound like a long time ago.... It was quite a time in the NFL! 1900 William C. Temple took over the team payments for the Duquesne Country and Athletic Club, becoming the first known individual club owner. 1902 Baseball's Philadelphia Athletics, managed by Connie Mack, and the Philadelphia Phillies formed professional football teams, joining the Pittsburgh Stars in the first attempt at a pro football league, named the National Football League. The Athletics won the first night football game ever played, 39-0 over Kanaweola AC at Elmira, New York, November 21. All three teams claimed the pro championship for the year, but the league president, Dave Berry, named the Stars the champions. Pitcher Rube Waddell was with the Athletics, and pitcher Christy Mathewson a fullback for Pittsburgh. The first World Series of pro football, actually a five-team tournament, was played among a team made up of players from both the Athletics and the Phillies, but simply named New York; the New York Knickerbockers; the Syracuse AC; the Warlow AC; and the Orange (New Jersey) AC at New York's original Madison Square Garden. New York and Syracuse played the first indoor football game before 3,000, December 28. Syracuse, with Glen (Pop) Warner at guard, won 6-0 and went on to win the tournament. 1903 The Franklin (Pa.) Athletic Club won the second and last World Series of pro football over the Oreos AC of Asbury Park, New Jersey; the Watertown Red and Blacks; and the Orange AC. Pro football was popularized in Ohio when the Massillon Tigers, a strong amateur team, hired four Pittsburgh pros to play in the season-ending game against Akron. At the same time, pro football declined in the Pittsburgh area, and the emphasis on the pro game moved west from Pennsylvania to Ohio. 1904 A field goal was changed from five points to four. Ohio had at least seven pro teams, with Massillon winning the Ohio Independent Championship, that is, the pro title. Talk surfaced about forming a state-wide league to end spiraling salaries brought about by constant bidding for players and to write universal rules for the game. The feeble attempt to start the league failed. Halfback Charles Follis signed a contract with the Shelby (Ohio) AC, making him the first known black pro football player. 1905 The Canton AC, later to become known as the Bulldogs, became a professional team. Massillon again won the Ohio League championship. 1906 The forward pass was legalized. The first authenticated pass completion in a pro game came on October 27, when George (Peggy) Parratt of Massillon threw a completion to Dan (Bullet) Riley in a victory over a combined Benwood-Moundsville team. Arch-rivals Canton and Massillon, the two best pro teams in America, played twice, with Canton winning the first game but Massillon winning the second and the Ohio League championship. A betting scandal and the financial disaster wrought upon the two clubs by paying huge salaries caused a temporary decline in interest in pro football in the two cities and, somewhat, throughout Ohio. 1909 A field goal dropped from four points to three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 It's not something you can teach. You either have it or you don't. Not true. 1957 and 1958 Green Bay Packers: dead last last in the NFL both years, even though they has Starr, Hornung, Taylor, Thurston, McGee, Nietzche, Kramer, Gregg and Davis on their roster. Then Lombardi came and taught them what they needed to do to win. Instruction+Demonstration+Imitation+Correction+Repetition = Success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Not true. 1957 and 1958 Green Bay Packers: dead last last in the NFL both years, even though they has Starr, Hornung, Taylor, Thurston, McGee, Nietzche, Kramer, Gregg and Davis on their roster. Then Lombardi came and taught them what they needed to do to win. Instruction+Demonstration+Imitation+Correction+Repetition = Success Ok well we don't have Lombardi so we are in trouble. The pieces we have now will never get it done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I mentioned this in a post a few weeks ago, it's literally 2-5 plays in a game what substitutes winning and losing in the NFL. Last night was obviously seattle stopping the bills at the end. There is no magic winning team in the NFL. If if you have 5 or more costly mistakes than `the other team, there is a good chance you will lose no matter how bad the team your playing is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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