San-O Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 ... after 5 weeks. http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2016&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go Not complaining about recent wins, however the Bills need to get much more out of the pass game (and QB play) than last in the league. I understand Watkins is out, the Bills finished 28th in the same stat. category last year with him. Bills have almost nothing at receiver and need an upgrade at QB as well. QB play and the passing game in general are holding this team back: IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 There are other threads discussing this. A new post was not needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Passing yards may be (probably is) the least important stat for this team. The important things in terms of the passing game are 3rd down conversions, TD:into ratio and RZ scoring. If those things continue to be strong the Bills will win. If those things slip up the Bills will struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) It's scary, but not a death knell unless their D, run game and TO margin can't maintain. Seattle and SF from a few years ago went pretty far without a big passing game. Right now TT needs to be efficient, hit a few big plays and not turn the ball over. If he ends up in the shootout vs the likes of Brady or Big Ben we likely go down. Edited October 11, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 Passing yards may be (probably is) the least important stat for this team. The important things in terms of the passing game are 3rd down conversions, TD:into ratio and RZ scoring. If those things continue to be strong the Bills will win. If those things slip up the Bills will struggle. I think the Bills can get by in general with a below average passing game (QB and Receivers), however absolute dead last? Teams, BETTER teams, are going to shut down the run game and force the Bills to throw the ball: which they can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I think the Bills can get by in general with a below average passing game (QB and Receivers), however absolute dead last? Teams, BETTER teams, are going to shut down the run game and force the Bills to throw the ball: which they can't. We don't know that yet. They haven't had TT attempt many passes. BTW they were able to match up with the Jets in the shoot out...just came short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I think the Bills can get by in general with a below average passing game (QB and Receivers), however absolute dead last? Teams, BETTER teams, are going to shut down the run game and force the Bills to throw the ball: which they can't. It is irrelevant. They are scoring and moving the ball. They are executing the game plan. If the Bills don't turn it over, move the chains on 3rd down, and execute in the RZ they will be fine. They are designed to do EXACTLY what they are doing now. Passing yards mean nothing in this offense. There are plays within the passing game that they need to make though (Woods throw, Goodwin miss). Those were 3rd down throws. They had a chance to move the chains and didn't. It doesn't matter in the Bills offense if they throw for 397 or 150 as long as they are checking those 3 boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eme123 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 only can get better from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Unlike my fellow OOO's.....I think that it is a important stat. It cannot stay like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 ... after 5 weeks. http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2016&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go Not complaining about recent wins, however the Bills need to get much more out of the pass game (and QB play) than last in the league. I understand Watkins is out, the Bills finished 28th in the same stat. category last year with him. Bills have almost nothing at receiver and need an upgrade at QB as well. QB play and the passing game in general are holding this team back: IMO. Seriously, another thread about passing yards? Does anyone on this board understand that Taylor also racks up rushing yards and makes lots of plays on the ground too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Tyrod can't throw ints or fumble. That's the most important stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) This is why many informed Bills fans aren't confident in this team. You can't sustain success in this league without a consistent and effective passing game. Can you get lucky, catch a lot of breaks and maybe sneak into the playoffs? Yes, it's possibe, but you better be awfully lucky. Id rather be good then lucky. Unfortunately, the Bills offense is poor and the passing game is ugly. You can't sustain a winning formula with it. And the most concerning part is Tyrod looks bad. He's making a couple of nice plays with his legs, but he's regressing in the passing game. Abandoning the pocket too quickly, bad footwork and poor accuracy. Was hoping to see a bit of an improvement in all of those categories over last year, and to my eye they all look worse. This is why many informed Bills fans aren't confident in this team. You can't sustain success in this league without a consistent and effective passing game. Can you get lucky, catch a lot of breaks and maybe sneak into the playoffs? But the Bills offense is poor and the passing game is ugly. You can't sustain a winning formula with it. And the most concerning part of that stat is Tyrod looks bad. He's making a couple of nice plays with his legs, but he's regressing in the passing game. Abandoning the pocket too quickly, bad footwork and poor accuracy. Was hoping to see a bit of an improvement in all of those categories over last year, and to my eye they all look worse. Edited October 11, 2016 by Estro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 This is why many informed Bills fans aren't confident in this team. You can't sustain success in this league without a consistent and effective passing game. Can you get lucky, catch a lot of breaks and maybe sneak into the playoffs? Yes, it's possibe, but you better be awfully lucky. Id rather be good then lucky. Unfortunately, the Bills offense is poor and the passing game is ugly. You can't sustain a winning formula with it. And the most concerning part is Tyrod looks bad. He's making a couple of nice plays with his legs, but he's regressing in the passing game. Abandoning the pocket too quickly, bad footwork and poor accuracy. Was hoping to see a bit of an improvement in all of those categories over last year, and to my eye they all look worse. This is why many informed Bills fans aren't confident in this team. You can't sustain success in this league without a consistent and effective passing game. Can you get lucky, catch a lot of breaks and maybe sneak into the playoffs? But the Bills offense is poor and the passing game is ugly. You can't sustain a winning formula with it. And the most concerning part of that stat is Tyrod looks bad. He's making a couple of nice plays with his legs, but he's regressing in the passing game. Abandoning the pocket too quickly, bad footwork and poor accuracy. Was hoping to see a bit of an improvement in all of those categories over last year, and to my eye they all look worse. Yes everyone else is obviously stupid...... Thank god for the "informed" fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Dont worry guys its all Scheme. When we need Taylor to win ball games and bring us from behind he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Dont worry guys its all Scheme. When we need Taylor to win ball games and bring us from behind he will. Thats the spirit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 The Seattle Seahawks finished 26th or 27th in passing 3 years between 2012-2014. Look how that turned out for them. Their highest rank was last year when they finished 20th in passing. And it was their worst yr in the Wilson era. Not saying we are as good as seattle. But our philosophy is similar. Yes we need to be more consistent in 3rd downs. TT Hhas played a season and a half basically. He has won. Hes on his 2nd coordinator. Lets see how the season plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Yes everyone else is obviously stupid...... Thank god for the "informed" fans I gotta hand it to the guys that will cheer and defend no matter what the stats or the big picture show. We are dead last in passing and it should be a major concern to any fan. I want the Bills to win and be a good team just as much as anybody else, but our QB is not playing well. That's just the truth. If we want to be a good team year in and year out, we need to draft and develop a good QB. I think with each passing game we are beginning to see that Tyrod is probably not that guy, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I gotta hand it to the guys that will cheer and defend no matter what the stats or the big picture show. We are dead last in passing and it should be a major concern to any fan. I want the Bills to win and be a good team just as much as anybody else, but our QB is not playing well. That's just the truth. If we want to be a good team year in and year out, we need to draft and develop a good QB. I think with each passing game we are beginning to see that Tyrod is probably not that guy, unfortunately. I am definately concerned.....I mean I must live in a alternate reality were we actually WON the last 3 games Definate cause for concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Trying not to wallow, but we are really missing Watkins. TT was one of the best deep passers in the league last year and the connection with Sammy downfield was huge. He hasn't found that with Goodwin, not sure if it's on TT or MG or both (I think it's both). Gotta hope he develops something with Justin Hunter. Can't stretch the field and may not be able to run anymore either pretty soon if the D has no respect for the passing game. I still think he needs to take this shots to Goodwin but they will let him have those all day until they connect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I gotta hand it to the guys that will cheer and defend no matter what the stats or the big picture show. We are dead last in passing and it should be a major concern to any fan. I want the Bills to win and be a good team just as much as anybody else, but our QB is not playing well. That's just the truth. If we want to be a good team year in and year out, we need to draft and develop a good QB. I think with each passing game we are beginning to see that Tyrod is probably not that guy, unfortunately. You're not wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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