The Wiz Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Yes, we are doing that with Cardale already in his second showing i noticed... True, but analyzing him is different than EJ. We don't know what Cardale is capable of yet. We know what we have with EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 True, but analyzing him is different than EJ. We don't know what Cardale is capable of yet. We know what we have with EJ. I'll prepare to dodge the bullets and arrows, but do we? If you look back, EJ was considered a raw prospect as well. I'm no QB guru, but I see a different player right now than what I saw even last year. With some guys it takes longer -- and perhaps the coaches EJ has worked with the past two offseasons have helped him develop. I fully understand this is likely EJ's last season in a Bills' uniform -- but a part of me holds out hope he will consider returning with a modest contract to be the backup, if nobody is bidding for his services as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 True, but analyzing him is different than EJ. We don't know what Cardale is capable of yet. We know what we have with EJ. agreed, i just noticed the wishy washy notes after his "down" game last night. Over analyze is our forte my friend : ) I'll prepare to dodge the bullets and arrows, but do we? If you look back, EJ was considered a raw prospect as well. I'm no QB guru, but I see a different player right now than what I saw even last year. With some guys it takes longer -- and perhaps the coaches EJ has worked with the past two offseasons have helped him develop. I fully understand this is likely EJ's last season in a Bills' uniform -- but a part of me holds out hope he will consider returning with a modest contract to be the backup, if nobody is bidding for his services as a starter. If no one is bidding for his services, wouldn't that be telling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 If no one is bidding for his services, wouldn't that be telling? As a starter. The question is whether EJ will choose to go somewhere on the "promise" he will compete for the job, or whether he'll want to stay in the Bills organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) I'll prepare to dodge the bullets and arrows, but do we? If you look back, EJ was considered a raw prospect as well. I'm no QB guru, but I see a different player right now than what I saw even last year. With some guys it takes longer -- and perhaps the coaches EJ has worked with the past two offseasons have helped him develop. I fully understand this is likely EJ's last season in a Bills' uniform -- but a part of me holds out hope he will consider returning with a modest contract to be the backup, if nobody is bidding for his services as a starter. Truthfully,I guess a better statement would be we have a good idea of what EJ is capable of. I agree EJ does appear to be different this year but still shows his bad habits. I didn't get to see him play yesterday and he's the only QB that they didn't do a video for every throw that he attempted so I can't review it. I have stated in the TC threads before that I feel like he does look more confident and comfortable than he did at any point last year. agreed, i just noticed the wishy washy notes after his "down" game last night. Over analyze is our forte my friend : ) If no one is bidding for his services, wouldn't that be telling? yea I know. I don't think he played a bad game but made some bad decisions is all. I'm sure he knows he's not going to be starting so could just have easily thought, screw it, it's preseason anyways. I think there are a few teams that he would have a chance at competing for the start. Edited August 21, 2016 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Like Nassib perhaps ? EJ made some nice plays for sure. He threw a couple low and looked sketchy. But later on he went through all his progressions to find a reception Not an EJ fan but glad we took him instead of Nassib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Not an EJ fan but glad we took him instead of Nassib. We had quite a dustup about that when Marrone came on board around here. Even marrone wouldn't take him. good times But yes. EJM was the best pick at that point in time Edited August 21, 2016 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 GB- good take bud. Agreed on all points. McCoy didn't' look so hot running, but great receiving. Nice to see Clay make a big catch, and TT really looked to improve from last year. Then again, today a number of announcers did not credit the Bills so much for their performance, but ripped to shreds how bad the Giants looked. We'll see.next week should be telling against the Skins. The last game is useless. Will never watch more than the 1st Quarter of the last game as everyone playing after that will not be on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 On kickoffs: with touchbacks coming out to the 25, the relative value of a guy who gets (like Gay) 67 % touchbacks vs. a guy like Carpenter (perhaps 50%?) seems diminished. In fact, you can make a good case that you're better off enticing the other team to attempt a return on a ball kicked 3-4 yards deep into the end zone - sure, you risk a long return, but the receiving team also risks: (1) getting tackled inside the 25; (2) fumbling it away; (3) having a decent return called back on a penalty. In other words, using a roster spot on a kickoff specialist was already questionable under pre-2016 rules; now, the calculus has decidedly tilted against it. So Gay was given a shot to show he's not just a kickoff specialist, and he failed in epic fashion. I am honestly amazed Gay has not been cut yet. I thought he would have been gone by the time I woke up this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Watching the game on DVR for the first time. That play by Taylor to Clay. Not many QBs can make that. How are those ankles, Janoris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Watching the game on DVR for the first time. That play by Taylor to Clay. Not many QBs can make that. How are those ankles, Janoris? That play should make every Bills fan smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 That play should make every Bills fan smile. It certainly should Ollie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Gay inaccurate? Do you know how hard it is to hit the same goal post twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Gay inaccurate? Do you know how hard it is to hit the same goal post twice?So carp was actually losing the game of 3-bar. Cut carp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 So who is going to be Dareus substitute and how did he look yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 So who is going to be Dareus substitute and how did he look yesterday? Bryant I believe. If you didn't hear about him, either here or elsewhere, he did good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) I thought he played well and seems to have a better command of the offense, but in the execution of plays he looked like the same EJ to me. Some really, really good mixed in with 2 or 3 total head scratchers. Still, he is a middle of the pack backup QB. I do believe Rex and Roman when they say they are comfortable with him as the #2. That is the essence of EJ. At his best, he just let's it rip. Sometimes it's a great play and sometimes a crazy throw into double coverage. At his worst, he is super tentative and doesn't pull the trigger at all. But he is never consistently good. Edited August 21, 2016 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 Bryant I believe. If you didn't hear about him, either here or elsewhere, he did good enough. I like Corbin Bryant I think he can legit play. He isn't Dareus (nobody is) but he is someone who would start for plenty of teams. If we lose another starter up front then I'd be a bit more concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) The NFL really screwed the pooch with moving touchbacks to the 25 didn't they? I'm not a very smart person, but my first thought after it was announced was "watch out for higher kicks that drop in just short of the goal line." OK, maybe it wasn't my first thought, but, it was an early thought. So much for removing collisions from the game as was the NFL's intent. Basically, what the NFL wants is no kick returns. They either want you to start from the 25 or make an onside kick. Except they don't want you to have to declare that you are going to use an onside kick the way you have to declare your 2 point conversion attempt now. Problem is, they don't know how to make this happen. Eventually, they will just eliminate kickoffs and make teams declare their intentions. Maybe 2 more seasons until this happens. Edited August 21, 2016 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 @YardsPerPass Gotta give Worthy a gif... dude made plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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