26CornerBlitz Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Care to expand a little on where you think I went wrong, Bill? Do you object to the calibre of player, the positions? Just curious. Adams = Whitner. Can't escape the past to evaluate individual talent in the 2017 draft class. He'd fill a glaring need and be one helluva player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Stoops and the OU AD both watched this video before reinstating him. And kept him on scholarship. Wild. If her head would have hit the corner of the table instead of the edge, she might have never gotten up. Wait a minute....he got AWAY with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Wait a minute....he got AWAY with that?it happened when he was an incoming freshman. They suspended him for a year, then reinstated with scholarship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 it happened when he was an incoming freshman. They suspended him for a year, then reinstated with scholarship. ok got it....so there was some punishment involved. I do hope the girl is ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Care to expand a little on where you think I went wrong, Bill? Do you object to the calibre of player, the positions? Just curious. Adams is a tremendous safety.......he's NOT Whitner......he can do it all. That said.......drafting for need usually proves to be a poor choice. I know that's hard to avoid when you are a mock drafter but the likelihood that those players will excel as rookies is not good......and 2-3 years later those needs could have been otherwise resolved by then. Use free agency for need.......then draft for elite quality at cornerstone positions....positions that are usually only stocked in free agency with warty players. In general, if you would hesitate to pay a player the going rate if he pans out at the position........probably $12M per year or so for Adams by the time he would hit FA........it probably was a poor choice. Personally, I'd take the QB.......even if it meant carrying 4 on the 53 next year. But knowing they probably won't........I'd be looking hard at pass rusher. It's a nice draft for pass rushers. Hughes has struggled for most of this season and Shaq sure hasn't looked like the twitchy pass rusher some on here thought they were getting. That is almost certainly a near future, big ticket need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 ok got it....so there was some punishment involved. I do hope the girl is ok i think most people believe he should have been kicked off entirely, since they had access to the video. Bad look for OU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Bear in mind the disclaimers and whatnot, here's my mock draft for Bills Wire. Tell me how stupid I am. http://billswire.usatoday.com/2016/12/17/2017-nfl-mock-draft-buffalo-bills/ I said earlier in the thread that I'm a big Adams fan. He's going to be good. Also think Reynolds has a ton of talent. I think you grab a receiver in the second though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) I said earlier in the thread that I'm a big Adams fan. He's going to be good. Also think Reynolds has a ton of talent. I think you grab a receiver in the second though.Dupre might be a 2nd round guy, too soon to tell. He's like a Michael thomas type as far as lots of talent but not in an offense conducive to big production. Edited December 18, 2016 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Care to expand a little on where you think I went wrong, Bill? Do you object to the calibre of player, the positions? Just curious.Post #1225 explains my position quite well. I readily admit that when I watch college it is almost exclusively the Crimson Tide. If defense is what you want, they have some GREAT players on their front seven. Yes, GREAT. And I meant what I said. Thanks and keep 'em coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) Bear in mind the disclaimers and whatnot, here's my mock draft for Bills Wire. Tell me how stupid I am. http://billswire.usatoday.com/2016/12/17/2017-nfl-mock-draft-buffalo-bills/ Love Adams...Love him for the Bills...But...I think based on the probability the Bills finish at least 8-8...he will be gone by the time they pick... I think at this extra-early point the name to watch for the Bills is Jabrill Peppers...I think he's just enough of a tweener, and moved around so much in College, it may make teams pause a bit allowing him to slide just a little... Edited December 18, 2016 by KOKBILLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Post #1225 explains my position quite well. I readily admit that when I watch college it is almost exclusively the Crimson Tide. If defense is what you want, they have some GREAT players on their front seven. Yes, GREAT. And I meant what I said. Thanks and keep 'em coming. There is a practicality issue when it comes to mock drafts. If I take a 1st round QB or double up on pass rushers after Shaq last year, I get ripped to shreds for that too. I respect the point BADOL makes and, for the most part, I agree with him. I just think that, at some point, you have to address holes on the roster that are there. I also think Adams would be a BPA candidate if he's on the board, it's just that position of need is a deciding factor when you consider talent levels. I did try to work an Alabama player in there. Allen is probably gone, Williams is a tough sell early, Foster would be nice but I'm not sure about taking another ILB early. You know my appreciation for Marlon Humphrey, I'd definitely consider him if Gilmore does walk. Same that you're aware of me being wary on Cam Robinson early. I appreciate the kind words. There's no hard feelings on my part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 The Jaylon Smith effect. @CMccaffrey5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Makes you wonder - if Jaylon blew his knee out at the Combine, would players stop going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 @DonteStallworth Great business decision. This will become a trend for players entering the NFL draft http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/18310396/christian-mccaffrey-stanford-cardinal-skip-hyundai-sun-bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFFacet Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Makes you wonder - if Jaylon blew his knee out at the Combine, would players stop going? Many highly rated players already skip the combine, on account of the fact that they have nothing more to prove. Skipping the bowl game is just an extension of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Many highly rated players already skip the combine, on account of the fact that they have nothing more to prove. Skipping the bowl game is just an extension of that. Almost all of the highly rated prospects show up in Indianapolis, but some decide to skip certain segments of the combine. Edited December 19, 2016 by 26CornerBlitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Many highly rated players already skip the combine, on account of the fact that they have nothing more to prove. Skipping the bowl game is just an extension of that. Some skip because there's a mandatory drug test, some attend but hide what they don't want scouts to see. Little different than injury avoidance but to the same principle, don't damage your future earnings. I get it, focus on getting some money. I feel differently with my experiences but I'm not unsympathetic. Edited December 19, 2016 by Blokestradamus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Almost all of the highly ratted prospects show up in Indianapolis, but some decide to skip certain segments of the combine. Which I will never understand. The combine proves absolutely nothing and is basically meaningless. If it did the NFL success draft rate would be much higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 Which I will never understand. The combine proves absolutely nothing and is basically meaningless. If it did the NFL success draft rate would be much higher. The individual player interviews by teams and league medical checks are most important it would seem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 @Deadspin Christian McCaffrey, Leonard Fournette wisely choose to skip exhibition games: http://deadsp.in/b9CmodS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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