Blokestradamus Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Given the 78th version of Chad Kelly talk in this thread, I might as well throw myself into the hornets nest (yet again). I was watching a fair bit of Ole Miss last night, looking at their TE Evan Engram. Personally, I find it quite interesting to focus in on one player. I know Ole Miss don't run the most sophisticated offense known to man but, in isolating Engram, it might be the most dumbed down offense in the Power 5. Going back through games since Kelly first started, there's a pair of trends that happen quite frequently. Firstly, very little actually happens within the structure of the original play call. Secondly, receivers are having to reach back for their catches quite a bit, especially in the short/intermediate range. You notice this with Engram especially as half of the routes he runs are quick outs. Seldom do you see him led towards the sideline. If someone wants to draft Chad Kelly in the 2nd-3rd round, they're quite welcome to. If that man works for the Buffalo Bills, he needs to be fired into the sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Given the 78th version of Chad Kelly talk in this thread, I might as well throw myself into the hornets nest (yet again). I was watching a fair bit of Ole Miss last night, looking at their TE Evan Engram. Personally, I find it quite interesting to focus in on one player. I know Ole Miss don't run the most sophisticated offense known to man but, in isolating Engram, it might be the most dumbed down offense in the Power 5. Going back through games since Kelly first started, there's a pair of trends that happen quite frequently. Firstly, very little actually happens within the structure of the original play call. Secondly, receivers are having to reach back for their catches quite a bit, especially in the short/intermediate range. You notice this with Engram especially as half of the routes he runs are quick outs. Seldom do you see him led towards the sideline. If someone wants to draft Chad Kelly in the 2nd-3rd round, they're quite welcome to. If that man works for the Buffalo Bills, he needs to be fired into the sun. Pats* aren't dumb enough but I'm hoping for Jets or Fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) Given the 78th version of Chad Kelly talk in this thread, I might as well throw myself into the hornets nest (yet again). I was watching a fair bit of Ole Miss last night, looking at their TE Evan Engram. Personally, I find it quite interesting to focus in on one player. I know Ole Miss don't run the most sophisticated offense known to man but, in isolating Engram, it might be the most dumbed down offense in the Power 5. Going back through games since Kelly first started, there's a pair of trends that happen quite frequently. Firstly, very little actually happens within the structure of the original play call. Secondly, receivers are having to reach back for their catches quite a bit, especially in the short/intermediate range. You notice this with Engram especially as half of the routes he runs are quick outs. Seldom do you see him led towards the sideline. If someone wants to draft Chad Kelly in the 2nd-3rd round, they're quite welcome to. If that man works for the Buffalo Bills, he needs to be fired into the sun. No worries. I was ridiculed last year too when I said that I really liked Dak and thought he was going to be the best value pick QB wise in the draft (along with Kessler who I still like but the Browns...oh the Browns) and the Bills should take him round 3. Edited December 9, 2016 by Mark80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Interesting to look back at this thread and poll results: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/185872-which-qb-do-you-want-the-bills-to-draft/?fromsearch=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 No worries. I was ridiculed last year too when I said that I really liked Dak and thought he was going to be the best value pick QB wise in the draft (along with Kessler who I still like but the Browns...oh the Browns) and the Bills should take him round 3. It's all fun and games, man. No such thing as right or wrong when it comes to opinion. I was there with you on Dak last year (not with Kessler though, how I hated him). I anticipate the Bills taking Chad because they always seem to end up with QBs I dislike and pass on guys I love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Bloke/Blitz CBSSports have the Bills drafting John Ross at 16 in there latest mock draft. I like Ross because he reminds me of Lee Evans. I'd still prefer Corey Davis. What are your thoughts of Ross? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 Bloke/Blitz CBSSports have the Bills drafting John Ross at 16 in there latest mock draft. I like Ross because he reminds me of Lee Evans. I'd still prefer Corey Davis. What are your thoughts of Ross? Who is it on CBS Sports? NFL Mock Draft: Giants, Chargers, Titans and Bills snag playmakers at receiver The Titans find a new No. 1 target while three other teams add complementary targets for their QBs 15. Buffalo Bills John Ross, WR, Washington: As long as defensive-minded head coach Rex Ryan is calling the shots, the Bills will have to find unique athletes at the skill positions to make up for a lack of creative play-calling. Pairing the speedy Ross, a DeSean Jackson clone, with Sammy Watkins would give the Bills a legitimate 1-2 punch on the perimeter, as well as boost the return game with Percy Harvin unlikely to return next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I'm hoping for Jamal Adams and a reciever in the second. Really like Fred Ross out of Miss St. Most drafts have him as a later round pick but I think he'll find his way into the early rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Bloke/Blitz CBSSports have the Bills drafting John Ross at 16 in there latest mock draft. I like Ross because he reminds me of Lee Evans. I'd still prefer Corey Davis. What are your thoughts of Ross? fastest guy in college. i'd love having him just in the slot running quick slants and then of course the occasional bomb. can tyrod get the ball over the middle to him though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Who is it on CBS Sports? NFL Mock Draft: Giants, Chargers, Titans and Bills snag playmakers at receiver 15. Buffalo Bills John Ross, WR, Washington: As long as defensive-minded head coach Rex Ryan is calling the shots, the Bills will have to find unique athletes at the skill positions to make up for a lack of creative play-calling. Pairing the speedy Ross, a DeSean Jackson clone, with Sammy Watkins would give the Bills a legitimate 1-2 punch on the perimeter, as well as boost the return game with Percy Harvin unlikely to return next season. A 5-11 WR with knee injury history... He'll fit right in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Given the 78th version of Chad Kelly talk in this thread, I might as well throw myself into the hornets nest (yet again). I was watching a fair bit of Ole Miss last night, looking at their TE Evan Engram. Personally, I find it quite interesting to focus in on one player. I know Ole Miss don't run the most sophisticated offense known to man but, in isolating Engram, it might be the most dumbed down offense in the Power 5. Going back through games since Kelly first started, there's a pair of trends that happen quite frequently. Firstly, very little actually happens within the structure of the original play call. Secondly, receivers are having to reach back for their catches quite a bit, especially in the short/intermediate range. You notice this with Engram especially as half of the routes he runs are quick outs. Seldom do you see him led towards the sideline. If someone wants to draft Chad Kelly in the 2nd-3rd round, they're quite welcome to. If that man works for the Buffalo Bills, he needs to be fired into the sun. We drafted PJ and EJ so ... It's all fun and games, man. No such thing as right or wrong when it comes to opinion. I was there with you on Dak last year (not with Kessler though, how I hated him). I anticipate the Bills taking Chad because they always seem to end up with QBs I dislike and pass on guys I love. me too but if they do this I will finally have one. Now I think he needs a lot of work but he has tons of talent and grit that we should not pass on. Bring Romo in and see what happens between Kelly and Cardale after 2 yrs. fastest guy in college. i'd love having him just in the slot running quick slants and then of course the occasional bomb. can tyrod get the ball over the middle to him though? Great another speed guy, just what we need. TT aint coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Watching Wyoming QB Josh Allen against N Mexico. He was way out of sync at first but got settled in and started making plays although some were called back. They got drilled in this game but the defense was totally overwhelmed by the old Triple option. It's clear to see he has and amazing arm, this kid throws bullets and deep balls, and another plus he plays in a pro style offense so that will help when transitioning to the NFL. What I really like about him is his ability to extend plays and make big throws and is a good runner. He is only a sophomore and will be someone to keep an eye next season and could be a top QB prospect for 2018. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8aifbyekMU Also their TE Jacob Hollister 6'4" 240 is a fantastic pass catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 We drafted PJ and EJ so ... me too but if they do this I will finally have one. Now I think he needs a lot of work but he has tons of talent and grit that we should not pass on. Bring Romo in and see what happens between Kelly and Cardale after 2 yrs. Great another speed guy, just what we need. TT aint coming back. well if he is anything like brandin cooks i'll be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 well if he is anything like brandin cooks i'll be good. We have enough smurfs, we need threats in the endzone and middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 @BruceFeldmanCFB #NotreDame QB DeShone Kizer leaving ND early, declares for the 2017 NFL Draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Avon Lake now Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I've watched ND football for a good part of the year. Kizer may be premature for the draft, but his stock is pretty high based on his performance the last 2 years. He has a strong arm and has played top level competition. Unfortunately this year he seemed to be playing from behind a lot and his defense let him down in several games. Definitely worth a look in a poor QB draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I've watched ND football for a good part of the year. Kizer may be premature for the draft, but his stock is pretty high based on his performance the last 2 years. He has a strong arm and has played top level competition. Unfortunately this year he seemed to be playing from behind a lot and his defense let him down in several games. Definitely worth a look in a poor QB draft. The problem is he's a project. The question is whether he is a more worthwhile project than Cardale Jones, because it wouldn't be rational to keep both on the roster imo. And by more worthwhile I mean so much better that he's worth a high draft pick + releasing Cardale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) I've watched ND football for a good part of the year. Kizer may be premature for the draft, but his stock is pretty high based on his performance the last 2 years. He has a strong arm and has played top level competition. Unfortunately this year he seemed to be playing from behind a lot and his defense let him down in several games. Definitely worth a look in a poor QB draft. With the Browns, 49ers, Bears and arguably the Cardinals needing a QB and all drafting ahead of us I can't see Kizer landing to us. Edited December 12, 2016 by The Jokeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 With the Browns, 49ers, Bears and arguably the Cardinals needing a QB and all drafting ahead of us I can't see Kizer landing to us. I could see the Browns drafting him with the Eagles pick that's currently #10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 @BrianHamiltonSI #NotreDame QB DeShone Kizer will enter the NFL Draft. Hard to argue when he's looking at a possible top 5 slot. Brian Kelly's statement: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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