YoloinOhio Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Can't see Cleveland trading up in any round. They are in rebuild mode and need all the picks they can get. while true, I think simply moving from top of 2nd to bottom of 1st to get their QB on a 5 year deal is a good move. They have 12 picks this year and they will be awash in comp picks next year because of all the FAs they lost/didn't sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 while true, I think simply moving from top of 2nd to bottom of 1st to get their QB on a 5 year deal is a good move. They have 12 picks this year and they will be awash in comp picks next year because of all the FAs they lost/didn't sign I still think it's more likely they move down once or twice more from #8 than they move up from #32. They already have 8 picks in the top 141, it wouldn't be shocking to see them get up to 11-12 picks in that range. By sheer volume they'd have to have one of the worst drafts ever to not get at least 4-5 guys who can really play out of that, 5 guys who can really play in the draft is a major win for any franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 They have no GM. That's a real problem DePodesta is one of the smartest dudes I've ever met. He also has a ton of pride and is very careful and diligent. I'd err on the side of things going right for Cleveland for a change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 RG3 looks sharp , energetic and fit , so far. Might be a very good move by the Browns How can you tell? There's been no practice yet Voluntary Veteran Mini-Camp: April 19-21 Another addition to the schedule because the Browns have a new coach, the team can practice together for three days with restrictions. http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/What-to-know-about-the-Browns%E2%80%99-2016-offseason-workout-program/dad0e167-c339-4eeb-a99c-2e18a87c7d91 video on NFLN this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Can't see Cleveland trading up in any round. They are in rebuild mode and need all the picks they can get. I don't think they're just looking for the most bodies they can acquire. This group will move around to get specific players they want. That will be especially true if they have a desired QB. I suspect they do, but I'm not sure who it is. I'd bet it is one of the four I mentioned - Lynch, Jones, Cook or Brissett - but that might just be me projecting my preference. Also don't be surprised to see them trade some of those picks for some young talent already on the rosters of other teams should it become available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 DePodesta is one of the smartest dudes I've ever met. He also has a ton of pride and is very careful and diligent. I'd err on the side of things going right for Cleveland for a change... I'm sure he knows how to run an organization; the fact that they do not have a personnel guy making football acquisitions would terrify me as a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I'm sure he knows how to run an organization; the fact that they do not have a personnel guy making football acquisitions would terrify me as a fan The Oakland A's did it for a long while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 You should be sorry...now go fix me a steak medium-rare. Medium rare? I always knew you were an intelligent person with great taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Watson is being seriously overrated as an NFL prospect. He's a hell of a college QB, but until he shows he can go to a second read I won't be sold at all. Also I suspect Clemson listing him as 6'2" is generous. But there's a whole year to see how he progresses and measures. . Do you mean to say that the Bills should not, as at least one poster here suggests, tank this year for the chance to draft Watson? (I think he may have used the term "go all in".). Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Voluntary Veteran Mini-Camp: April 19-21 Another addition to the schedule because the Browns have a new coach, the team can practice together for three days with restrictions. http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/What-to-know-about-the-Browns%E2%80%99-2016-offseason-workout-program/dad0e167-c339-4eeb-a99c-2e18a87c7d91 video on NFLN this morning Sorry, forgot about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Medium rare? I always knew you were an intelligent person with great taste. : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 The Oakland A's did it for a long while. I think it's a little bit easier for a baseball team since they get 40+ draft picks every year. In football, you need to get the draft right, and as teams like the 2006-2009 Bills and 2013-14 Jets saw, that's much more difficult if you don't have a personnel guy running things. Not saying it can't work, but I'm skeptical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I think it's a little bit easier for a baseball team since they get 40+ draft picks every year. In football, you need to get the draft right, and as teams like the 2006-2009 Bills and 2013-14 Jets saw, that's much more difficult if you don't have a personnel guy running things. Not saying it can't work, but I'm skeptical Can it really be any worse than the last guys did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Can it really be any worse than the last guys did? Exactly. The Browns had so-called "personnel" guys running the last few drafts, yet their owner was taking advice from homeless dudes and the bungled pick after pick. DePodesta has too much pride to screw this up. They're going to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Can it really be any worse than the last guys did? Or the guys before that? Or the ones before that? Or any of ones that were part of the cluster**** that has paraded through Berea, OH since 1999? Honestly, the most screwed up thing that I've heard since this trade happened was Phil Savage stating that Goff and Wentz were the big winners here because neither had to go to the QB graveyard and total trainwreck that has been the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, how about that total moron GM who traded first and second round picks to Dallas for Brady Freaking Quinn and then sat there grinning ear to ear? Wasn't he the same imbecile that handed Ngata to the hated division rival Ravens for a 6th round pick? What an idiot! You can't make this stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) Or the guys before that? Or the ones before that? Or any of ones that were part of the cluster**** that has paraded through Berea, OH since 1999? Honestly, the most screwed up thing that I've heard since this trade happened was Phil Savage stating that Goff and Wentz were the big winners here because neither had to go to the QB graveyard and total trainwreck that has been the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, how about that total moron GM who traded first and second round picks to Dallas for Brady Freaking Quinn and then sat there grinning ear to ear? Wasn't he the same imbecile that handed Ngata to the hated division rival Ravens for a 6th round pick? What an idiot! You can't make this stuff up. One of the few teams with a worse player personnel record than the Bills between 1999 and 2010. And we've seemingly gotten back on track, at least. I'm pulling for DePodesta, the Cleveland fans deserve better. Edited April 21, 2016 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 One of the few teams with a worse player personnel record than the Bills between 1999 and 2010. And we've seemingly gotten back on track, at least. I'm pulling for DePodesta, the Cleveland fans deserve better. They are and have been the one franchise that Bills fans can point to and say "Well, atleast we're not the Browns." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 They are and have been the one franchise that Bills fans can point to and say "Well, atleast we're not the Browns." Which makes it even worse when we lose to them 6-3, or 37-24 like last time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Which makes it even worse when we lose to them 6-3, or 37-24 like last time The Bills beat the Browns 26-10 the last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 The Bills beat the Browns 26-10 the last time. Ah yes, my bad. I was only remembering the fiasco in Cleveland in 2013. Championship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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