purple haze Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Best: Myles Jack Bust: Jared Goff Sleeper: Braxton Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Bosa was the consensus number 1 overall pick and is now still slated to go in the top 10. He will bust based on his draft position. I disagree, draft position is important in this but someone who starts from the top ten is not a bust even if they are not a superstar. If they don't start overtime and our bouncing around the league is a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I disagree, draft position is important in this but someone who starts from the top ten is not a bust even if they are not a superstar. If they don't start overtime and our bouncing around the league is a bust. I agree actually and they had a good debate on this on WGR last off-season when CJ left. CJ was not a bust but equally he was not a "good pick". The two are different. Maybin was a bust. Whitner was a bad pick. However, looking at your updated sig (and I always respect that you publically stick your neck on the line with how you'd draft) I actually think Dodd has a high bust potential. I don't see anything that he excels at. He is a solid all-round player but what is the one thing that is going to make him stand out at the NFL level? I think there is a chance he ends up bouncing around the league as a back up / rotational player. I'm still not mocking him in round one, I just can't believe he belongs there - but teams might take a different view to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Best -- Laremy Tunsil -- OT Old Miss Bust -- Joey Bosa DE Ohio St Sleeper -- K J Dillion S West Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Best - Doctson WR Bust - Ragland MLB Sleeper - Rudock QB Michigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Best Player outside top#10- R Knemdiche Bust- Leonard Floyd Sleeper- Sterling Shepard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Best Player: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU Bust: All of the sub 6'0 corners that will be taken too high in Round #1 Sleeper: Christian Hackenberg, QB, PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Best: Myles Jack Bust: Reggie Ragland Sleeper(s): DJ Reader and Maliek Collins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 You serious? Yes. What's the definition of "sleeper". Is it a guy selected in the 4th round or later that is successful. Is 5th the cutoff? How about getting picked outside the first 150 players? It doesn't have a measurable, defined meaning, which basically means that people can define it however they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Yes. What's the definition of "sleeper". Is it a guy selected in the 4th round or later that is successful. Is 5th the cutoff? How about getting picked outside the first 150 players? It doesn't have a measurable, defined meaning, which basically means that people can define it however they want. In all of professional sports, I think the general consensus of a sleeper pick is an under the radar pick that surprises everyone and becomes a great player. It's really not that complicated. And sleeper picks can be selected during any round of a draft. For example, even if Darby was selected in the 1st, he would have still been considered a sleeper pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTLBills Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Best - Jalen Ramsey Bust - Paxton Lynch Sleeper - Rashard Higgins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I agree actually and they had a good debate on this on WGR last off-season when CJ left. CJ was not a bust but equally he was not a "good pick". The two are different. Maybin was a bust. Whitner was a bad pick. However, looking at your updated sig (and I always respect that you publically stick your neck on the line with how you'd draft) I actually think Dodd has a high bust potential. I don't see anything that he excels at. He is a solid all-round player but what is the one thing that is going to make him stand out at the NFL level? I think there is a chance he ends up bouncing around the league as a back up / rotational player. I'm still not mocking him in round one, I just can't believe he belongs there - but teams might take a different view to me. well I don't think Bosa will be a bust. Who knows about Dodd, Honestly only saw him once, picked him because he fits the multiple front we are supposed to use. Thanks, I take a lot flack for players I like but I like doing the mocks and can take the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) Best-Laremy Tunsil Bust-Kevin Dodd, Noah Spence Borderline 1st rd w/PB potential- Josh Doctson Edited March 22, 2016 by The Thurmanator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Best - Jalen Ramsey Bust - Shaq Lawson Sleeper - Joshua Perry I don't see how a guy projected to go top 45 qualifies as a sleeper unless you think he's going to be the best guy in the draft and will get picked outside of the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 NFC scout: Cal's Jared Goff is 'another Jay Cutler' "I'm just not crazy about him, not at all. He doesn't win. Show me a quarterback who didn't win in college, that did well up here? There aren't many. To me he's another Jay Cutler. And you can take that any way you want." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000646540/article/nfc-scout-cals-jared-goff-is-another-jay-cutler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) well I don't think Bosa will be a bust. Who knows about Dodd, Honestly only saw him once, picked him because he fits the multiple front we are supposed to use. Thanks, I take a lot flack for players I like but I like doing the mocks and can take the heat. Dodd is a boom or bust but the boom is that he could be the best pass rushing DL in this draft. I wouldn't be surprised if Jayron Kearse went undrafted. Average players regularly get over-hyped in the draft process but Kearse is just bad at playing safety. Slow reactions, poor change of direction, ridiculous angles.......does look like a lost Rex DL running around in the secondary though so perhaps he is a scheme fit in Buffalo. Wouldn't surprise me if Nkemdiche fell until late in the draft. Haven't seen any draftniks risk that opinion but he just completely stinks 95% of the time. Gets blocked and can't or won't do anything about it. Factor in his very strange personality and entitled behavior.....why would a team in a league that won't even hire a similarly crazy potential 15 sack DE/OLB versatile talent like Greg Hardy draft Nkemdiche with an early pick? And in a good DL draft? Edited March 23, 2016 by #BADOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Best 1. Jalen Ramsey with Myles Jack a close second. Just re-watched the Florida St. v. Houston game and Ramsey was awesome and mean, even in a losing effort Bust 1A. Darron Lee. An athlete but he really has no position in this league . 1B. Sheldon Rankins. Short and he is quick but no counter move. 1C Leonard Floyd. Such a thin frame. Can he really do much against NFL linemen ? Sleeper: 1A. Devon Cajuste WR Stanford. Size hands and more than adequate speed. 1B Yannick Ngakoue OLB Maryland good size and strength. Hope he goes to a well coached team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Sleeper: Kamalei Correa, LB, Boise State CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P51 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Best - Tunsil (1a) and Ramsey (1b) Bust - Will Fuller (terribly over rated because of his combine 40 time) Sleeper - Artie Burns (Ronald Darby w/longer arms and bigger hands, raw technique that is coachable and athleticism that is not.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Dodd is a boom or bust but the boom is that he could be the best pass rushing DL in this draft. I wouldn't be surprised if Jayron Kearse went undrafted. Average players regularly get over-hyped in the draft process but Kearse is just bad at playing safety. Slow reactions, poor change of direction, ridiculous angles.......does look like a lost Rex DL running around in the secondary though so perhaps he is a scheme fit in Buffalo. Wouldn't surprise me if Nkemdiche fell until late in the draft. Haven't seen any draftniks risk that opinion but he just completely stinks 95% of the time. Gets blocked and can't or won't do anything about it. Factor in his very strange personality and entitled behavior.....why would a team in a league that won't even hire a similarly crazy potential 15 sack DE/OLB versatile talent like Greg Hardy draft Nkemdiche with an early pick? And in a good DL draft? I use draftek so I try to match guys up with their rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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