Buffalo_Gal Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 This guy writes for Mother Jones. He biked around DC last night, and has a thread about what it looked like. I don't think it was just the curfew that helped DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: This is really so funny. Democrats in the 1860's? Do you think they are the same as Democrats today? Just because the name is the same? How can anyone make such an argument? Would Nathan Bedford Forest of been an Obama supporter? The original post dealt with an allegation from 1927. Back then, Joe Biden and his wife were just a couple crazy kids hanging out at a local speakeasy sipping rye and talking about the jimmy jack future they would have together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: This is only true because there are 6x as many whites as blacks. On a per capita basis more blacks are killed and it's not close. Would you like to have a discussion on how this statistic is falsely being used? Or do you just not care? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Reality Check said: You are living in fantasy land. It makes no difference to me what happens in the urban jungles. They have to figure out their own mess, and they appear to be incapable of solving anything. The only consistent solution adopted in the urban jungles is taxes and welfare. That formula has failed. Why? This solution has failed all over the country in all types of communities. Over the past 40 years, the gap between the rich and poor has grown exponentially and people of all colours have been left behind to live in poverty while the rich get richer. Decade after decade, tax breaks have been given to the people who need them the least, and trickle down economics has proven to be a colossal sham. I agree that most cities have major problems. But so do rural communities all over the South and Mid West. Suggesting this is just an urban problem isn't reality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: Would you like to have a discussion on how this statistic is falsely being used? Or do you just not care? He just wants to point out how racist we all are here in PPP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 The comments on this twitter thread. Oy. People truly think they can block roads, loot buildings, start fires, heck, protest without permits, and there should be no repercussions for them. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: The comments on this twitter thread. Oy. People truly think they can block roads, loot buildings, start fires, heck, protest without permits, and there should be no repercussions for them. Is this a video from when the Eagles won the SB? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: The original post dealt with an allegation from 1927. Back then, Joe Biden and his wife were just a couple crazy kids hanging out at a local speakeasy sipping rye and talking about the jimmy jack future they would have together. What does the fact the KKK use to be part of the Democratic Party have anything at all to do with Democrats today? Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: The comments on this twitter thread. Oy. People truly think they can block roads, loot buildings, start fires, heck, protest without permits, and there should be no repercussions for them. I've driven that viaduct MANY times. It's a canyon that bisects the city. Those people are idiots for protesting THERE. There's literally no escape. Edited June 2, 2020 by Joe in Winslow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: This solution has failed all over the country in all types of communities. Over the past 40 years, the gap between the rich and poor has grown exponentially and people of all colours have been left behind to live in poverty while the rich get richer. Decade after decade, tax breaks have been given to the people who need them the least, and trickle down economics has proven to be a colossal sham. I agree that most cities have major problems. But so do rural communities all over the South and Mid West. Suggesting this is just an urban problem isn't reality. Well, you never mention all the jobs that were sent overseas to some of our most trusted friends like China. Were you a supporter of cheaper goods at Walmart while local business suffered and industrial jobs left town? Hey, maybe you are part of the problem. Put your life and money where your mouth is and present a viable solution. You behave like this forum is an extension of protesting in the streets. Try solving a problem first and get back to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, jrober38 said: This solution has failed all over the country in all types of communities. Over the past 40 years, the gap between the rich and poor has grown exponentially and people of all colours have been left behind to live in poverty while the rich get richer. Decade after decade, tax breaks have been given to the people who need them the least, and trickle down economics has proven to be a colossal sham. I agree that most cities have major problems. But so do rural communities all over the South and Mid West. Suggesting this is just an urban problem isn't reality. Yup, the racism used to divide the people is hurting the racists, too. Rural hospitals and social services could be much better. Who got hurt when red states wouldn’t expand Obamacare? Poor whites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Even the article agrees that it was mainly created by democrats but states it is "unfair" since it was not done by the party itself, but members of the party. Basically it is like arguing the Tea Party is Republican. I consider the Tea Party a Republican thing and the KKK a Dem thing. And today - it IS a Trump thing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: What does the fact the KKK use to be part of the Democratic Party have anything at all to do with Democrats today? Nothing. What does the activity, real or imagined, of Donald Trump’s father in 1927 have anything to do with Donal Trump one hundred years later in 2020? Nothing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, BillStime said: And today - it IS a Trump thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I've driven that viaduct MANY times. It's a canyon that bisects the city. Those people are idiots for protesting THERE. There's literally no escape. Flood it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: What does the activity, real or imagined, of Donald Trump’s father in 1927 have anything to do with Donal Trump one hundred years later in 2020? Nothing. Hate seems to be a Trump family value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, jrober38 said: This solution has failed all over the country in all types of communities. Over the past 40 years, the gap between the rich and poor has grown exponentially and people of all colours have been left behind to live in poverty while the rich get richer. Decade after decade, tax breaks have been given to the people who need them the least, and trickle down economics has proven to be a colossal sham. I agree that most cities have major problems. But so do rural communities all over the South and Mid West. Suggesting this is just an urban problem isn't reality. Oh brother! Tell me again how tax breaks for the rich, impact the poor? We’ve already overspent the ‘rich’ people’s taxes by $20 TRILLION DOLLARS!!!! Let me know when you think we’ve gotten to the right number. The goal should be a society where EVERYONE pays a proportionate share. We’ve proven beyond any doubt that redistribution simply doesn’t work. In fact, it makes things way, way worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Looting and your get away car is a Rolls Royce!?!?!? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Hate seems to be a Trump family value. Hate IS a Trump value 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Hate seems to be a Trump family value. You seem to have an unhealthy dose of it yourself, Tibs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: Looting and your get away car is a Rolls Royce!?!?!? Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, BillStime said: Hate IS a Trump value Liberals are so loving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: And today - it IS a Trump thing... Yep, under Trump black unemployment is the lowest ever, more blacks are off welfare and food stamps under him too. Dems want blacks on government assistance to keep power over them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Looting and your get away car is a Rolls Royce!?!?!? This isn't ANTIFA. These are just your good old fashioned homegrown criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: I wouldn't mind seeing whoever did that hanging in the public square, and left there till his corpse is picked clean by the birds. Savages deserve no better. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) I like how the libtards ignore WV Senator Robert Byrd, who WAS a member of the KKK. He and Gore's father led the fight against the 1963 Civil Rights bill. which was assed because of the Republican support. Oh I forgot Slick Willy's mentor. Edited June 2, 2020 by Wacka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Reality Check said: Well, you never mention all the jobs that were sent overseas to some of our most trusted friends like China. Were you a supporter of cheaper goods at Walmart while local business suffered and industrial jobs left town? Hey, maybe you are part of the problem. Put your life and money where your mouth is and present a viable solution. You behave like this forum is an extension of protesting in the streets. Try solving a problem first and get back to me. Don't get defensive. That doesn't advance our discussion. All I'm pointing out is that the five poorest states in the US based off GDP per capita are South Carolina, Arkansas, West Virginia, Idaho and Mississippi. Conservative principals have obviously not worked there, so the issue is more than just democratic policies failing in "urban jungles". Things are failing everywhere. The solution in my eyes is to go back to a tax system like the one the US had during or just before Ronald Reagan, where the top tax bracket was between 50 and 70%. Raise taxes dramatically on people who earn large incomes, and lower taxes for everyone else. Put money back in the pockets of people who actually need it, and make the super wealthy pitch in more to the system that has allowed them to stockpile their wealth. A wealth tax is also something I could get behind on wealth above like $10 million (not a low threshold). In all seriousness, with where the economy is heading and how fast its heading their with Artificial Intelligence, I think Andrew Yang's idea of guaranteed universal basic income is something to look at. In 10 years a ton of industries that employ huge numbers of people will be gone. Trucking, food service, taxis, bus drivers, etc. It'll all be taken over, or at least dominated by Artificial Intelligence. Technology is obviously taking over the world, and I think within 10, maybe 15 years many of the jobs Americans depend on now will be almost entirely gone and the work force won't have the necessary education to find new things to do in the economy we'll have then. And no, I don't support cheap goods. Over the last few years my wife and I support brands we like, who manufacture domestically or actively try to reduce their carbon footprint. That's our choice to support small businesses with those characteristics, and it often comes at a greater cost but we're willing to pay it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: This isn't ANTIFA. These are just your good old fashioned homegrown criminals. Assuming it was not stolen ... there cannot be too many of these, even in NYC. It should not be hard to find the owner. Now if it was stolen, they should be able to track it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Oh brother! Tell me again how tax breaks for the rich, impact the poor? We’ve already overspent the ‘rich’ people’s taxes by $20 TRILLION DOLLARS!!!! Let me know when you think we’ve gotten to the right number. The goal should be a society where EVERYONE pays a proportionate share. We’ve proven beyond any doubt that redistribution simply doesn’t work. In fact, it makes things way, way worse! That would be the goal in plutocracy. In a democracy populist ideals, particularly on taxes are much more common. Redistribution hasn't been utilized since the 1960s when the top tax bracket paid 90% income tax. Over the past 40 years, the rich have paid less tax and everyone else has paid more, and the result has been a massive increase in income inequality. Trickle down economics do not work. That's obvious at this point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: Yep, under Trump black unemployment is the lowest ever, more blacks are off welfare and food stamps under him too. Dems want blacks on government assistance to keep power over them. Thugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: You seem to have an unhealthy dose of it yourself, Tibs. Oh? How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: Yep, under Trump black unemployment is the lowest ever, more blacks are off welfare and food stamps under him too. Dems want blacks on government assistance to keep power over them. Have you looked at black unemployment recently? It's currently over 16%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, jrober38 said: Have you looked at black unemployment recently? It's currently over 16%. Thanks Cuomo/Wolf/Whitmer/"Science Believers!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Have you looked at black unemployment recently? It's currently over 16%. Because of the virus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, bilzfancy said: Because of the virus Right. The issue is those jobs aren't coming back anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Have you looked at black unemployment recently? It's currently over 16%. Actually, before the economic shutdown due to the virus, it was at an all time low. Don't you ever tire of manipulating stats and telling outright lies to prove your points. If your arguments are supported by accurate, truthful facts, then why don't you try presenting some? Just now, jrober38 said: Right. The issue is those jobs aren't coming back anytime soon. No the issue is that you are a deceptive in your arguments 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Right. The issue is those jobs aren't coming back anytime soon. But rioting helps the jobs come back? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: Actually, before the economic shutdown due to the virus, it was at an all time low. Don't you ever tire of manipulating stats and telling outright lies to prove your points. If your arguments are supported by accurate, truthful facts, then why don't you try presenting some? No the issue is that you are a deceptive in your arguments Your reading comprehension skills seem to still be lacking. When did I say it wasn't low? I said, have you looked RECENTLY, and you immediately put words in my mouth, changing my argument, as you always do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts