YoloinOhio Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 @adamschefter Oral arguments on NFL's bid to reinstate Pats' QB Tom Brady's punishment will be at 2 p.m. ET in 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals in NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Lifetime ban. (fingers crossed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 In other important news, the sun rose this morning and is expected to set tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 The NFL is looking really pathetic at this point. You tried, you failed miserably, just stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Lifetime ban. (fingers crossed) Please make it so. Dear God end our torture. Karma has to exist right? On a side note what's up with a story I heard that the pats* are skirting the salary cap and paying Brady more than his contract but funneling the money into a sham business or something. Nothing would surprise me from those scumbag crooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 What is the legal basis for the appeal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 The NFL is looking really pathetic at this point. You tried, you failed miserably, just stop it.they have now spent $20,000,000 on deflategate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 they have now spent $20,000,000 on deflategate. Imagine Roger's salary if they didn't pursue this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Please make it so. Dear God end our torture. Karma has to exist right? On a side note what's up with a story I heard that the pats* are skirting the salary cap and paying Brady more than his contract but funneling the money into a sham business or something. Nothing would surprise me from those scumbag crooks. Link? Or just rumor at this point? I don't doubt you, I would just like ammo to throw at the chowderheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 Deflategate is back in court: Preview of NFL's appeal hearing http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/03/01/deflategate-appeal-hearing-preview-tom-brady-roger-goodell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Link? Or just rumor at this point? I don't doubt you, I would just like ammo to throw at the chowderheads. im assuming its the story that was something along the lines of the team paying bradys personal trainer/giving him a room at the stadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 What is the legal basis for the appeal? Arrogance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 Link? Or just rumor at this point? I don't doubt you, I would just like ammo to throw at the chowderheads.i think it is this story http://nesn.com/2015/12/report-patriots-trainers-irked-by-teams-relationship-with-tom-bradys-body-coach/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 What is the legal basis for the appeal? That federal judges aren't permitted to reverse labor arbitration decisions outside clear and direct evidence of criminal wrongdoing in the arbitration itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 ugh just let it go NFL You lost CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 That federal judges aren't permitted to reverse labor arbitration decisions outside clear and direct evidence of criminal wrongdoing in the arbitration itself. Huh? Criminal wrongdoing in an arbitration? Anyway, the NFL will argue that Goodell righteously enforced article 46 of the CBA as the NFLPA agreed to. The NFLPA will argue that Goodell's decision was against precedent for ball tampering and also the "did not warn Brady he could be suspended for deflating balls" was a point (among several) that de-legitimizes the suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 That federal judges aren't permitted to reverse labor arbitration decisions outside clear and direct evidence of criminal wrongdoing in the arbitration itself. This time I can call you an idiot. Criminal wrongdoing? The standard could include that but certainly is not that limited. While you are correct that court action in arbitration awards is rare it does happen for reasons beyond what you articulate. Courts can and have intervened where the arbitrator is shown not to be a neutral third party, They also step in if the arbitrator fails to decide on the issue presented (or in the even more unlikely scenario that the arbitrator's decision covers far more than the issue in front of her/him). There is also some latitude, though not absolute, that the courts will intervene if the decision is outside of the law, criminal or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 ugh just let it go NFL You lost CBF So cheaters do win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 That federal judges aren't permitted to reverse labor arbitration decisions outside clear and direct evidence of criminal wrongdoing in the arbitration itself. But Mr. WEO Brady and all the Pats*. Shouldn't the judge be allowed to take that into account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 The NFL is looking really pathetic at this point. You tried, you failed miserably, just stop it. I think it's about more than trying to get Brady suspended. Berman pretty much said "Hey, you know that binding arbitration you negotiated for? And the ability to act as a disciplinarian? You don't have that, thanks 'k bye." As it stands, it seriously limits the league's power, and is going to be the rallying cry for every player who ever gets suspended. So of course they are going to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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