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A Non-Pretending Discussion About Barack Obama

 

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The type of intense, deeply cited and granular research that David Garrow did for his book, is the type of research historians 50-years from now will be citing as they outline the legacy of President Obama.  This is also the type of research and non-pretending analysis you will never see approved for conversation by those who currently maintain the false pretense of the subject.

 

“I doubt that in the long run, Obama’s foreign-policy failures are going to be seen as the most important part of his legacy. I think future historians are going to look at the Obama presidency and see it as the moment when this new oligarchy merged with the Democratic Party and used the capacities of these new technologies and the power of this new class of people, the oligarchs and their servants, to create a new apparatus of social control. How far they can go with it, what the limits are … you see them trying to test it out every week or so.”  ~ David Samuels

 

 

Garrow and Samuels both discuss Barack Obama in a way that is extremely accurate; as a result, antithetical to the populism that surrounds the former President.  People who have followed political events will bathe in the truthfulness of the discussion.  Obama, a man created by his own intent and purpose, to present himself and his transitional identity to a select audience of affluent white liberals.  This audience would help Obama achieve his narcissistic life goal to have a “valet and private plane”, while simultaneously assuaging their white guilt.  The plan worked swimmingly.

 

Samuels talks about the curiosity of President Obama maintaining his residence in the nation’s capital, an often-visited command center in Washington DC, where important members of the current administration assemble at times, and secret service vehicles are often spotted coming and going. Yet, for some odd reason, the DC media network who are directly responsible for tracking and outlining the comings and goings of those in power, are seemingly incurious about this home/headquarters.

 

[…] Samuels: “The easy explanation, of course, is that Joe Biden is not running that part of his administration. Obama is. He doesn’t even have to pick up the phone because all of his people are already inside the White House. They hold the Iran file. Tony Blinken doesn’t.”

 

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I am going to draw attention to one such example, because this is the first time I have seen anyone, other than myself, connect the dots of the new surveillance state to the intents and purposes of Obama’s tenure in office.   As noted during the conversation, David Samuels says…

 

….”So Obama starts out as an eloquent opponent of the Patriot Act, etc., etc. By the end of his presidency, his people are unmasking intercepts of his political opponents every day, and the FBI is spying on Donald Trump.”… 

 

The response from Garrow is as succinct as it is accurate, “that’s right!”

 

I cannot tell you how refreshing it is to see an article that drops all of the pretending and starts to talk about the reality of our situation.  If we stop pretending we unite as a country, because we all start to accept the same baselines.

 

The fraud that has been purposefully deployed as a tool for fundamental change, can only exist if people pretend that fraud and corruption does not exist.  Stop pretending, and the sunlight of commonality begins to unite our nation.

 

This weaponized national security state will be the legacy of President Obama.

 

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/08/04/a-non-pretending-discussion-about-barack-obama/

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This should surprise no one. Well maybe the gay sex fantasizing will, but everything else shouldn't. 

 

Most interesting parts of this Tablet article on Obama:

 

1) Obama's apparently Biden's puppeteer

 

2) Obama wrote a letter to a girlfriend "about how he repeatedly fantasizes about making love to men."

 

3) Obama lying about why his relationship ended w/ a white girlfriend 

 

4) His biographer says, "He’s not normal—as in not a normal politician or a normal human being." 

 

5) "Barack is actually just as insecure as Trump ... Barack doesn’t want to be close with people who are his equals. None of the people who are ostensibly his best friends are anywhere close to his equal."

 

6) "Barack once said to him that the only two things he wanted were a valet and an airplane."

 

7) "So why should Obama, the ultimate winner, carry on the charade that he’s part of a community, whatever that means, with these people [from Ivy League schools]? He’s happy to go on NPR and talk about meaning or Marilynne Robinson novels or whatever, to make the wine moms identify with him, so he can put one over on them. Just don’t ask him to visit the hospital when you get cancer, because he’ll be hanging out on someone’s yacht, with the other winners."

 

Everyone should read this. It's so damn good.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Does that go along with being a sexual predator after all we do have a court case to prove that

And what if he was a homosexual so what?

 

 

Hey, a brand new angle from JFR....he completely missed the point!

 

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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

No, there literally is nothing wrong with that as long as everything was consensual, and everyone is adults a person sex life is their own ***** business

 

You are truly a moron.

 

If these allegations about Obama's sexuality are true, and this isn't the first person from his past to make the allegation, it has nothing to with his sexuality and everything to do with his honesty and integrity.

 

But you already knew....wait, no you didn't already know that because you have the IQ of a dish rag. 

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1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

You are truly a moron.

 

If these allegations about Obama's sexuality are true, and this isn't the first person from his past to make the allegation, it has nothing to with his sexuality and everything to do with his honesty and integrity.

 

But you already knew....wait, no you didn't already know that because you have the IQ of a dish rag. 

So because somebody may not have disclose their sexuality, which is actually none of your ***** business. Now, all of a sudden they are not honest and have no integrity.
 

Leave that to the Republicans

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2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

So because somebody may not have disclose their sexuality, which is actually none of your ***** business.

 

 

But it is the business to be shared between school teachers and 6 year olds, right?

 

 

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

 

Now, all of a sudden they are not honest and have no integrity.
 

Leave that to the Republicans

 

Not in 2023. Your sexuality defines you these days. Maybe you missed that while searching for nazi churches. 

 

Your rules.

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1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

But it is the business to be shared between school teachers and 6 year olds, right?

 

 

 

Not in 2023. Your sexuality defines you these days. Maybe you missed that while searching for nazi churches. 

 

Your rules.

Explain how the idea of Obama, having gay sex is even remotely equivalent to a teacher having sex with a child

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Just now, John from Riverside said:

Explain how the idea of Obama, having gay sex is even remotely equivalent to a teacher having sex with a child

 

Holy hell.

 

Did you take a full minute drag on the tailpipe this morning?

 

YOU emphasized that an individuals sexuality is nobody's business but their own.

 

Which is correct, or at least it used to be.

 

Unfortunately many school teachers these days don't believe the same and bring their sexuality into the classroom and discuss it with 1st graders

 

So....

 

In 2023 is Obama's sexuality forbidden discussion and teachers discussing sexuality with 6 year olds just fine?

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11 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Holy hell.

 

Did you take a full minute drag on the tailpipe this morning?

 

YOU emphasized that an individuals sexuality is nobody's business but their own.

 

Which is correct, or at least it used to be.

 

Unfortunately many school teachers these days don't believe the same and bring their sexuality into the classroom and discuss it with 1st graders

 

So....

 

In 2023 is Obama's sexuality forbidden discussion and teachers discussing sexuality with 6 year olds just fine?

To be clear, I am not OK with the teachers having sexual discussions with children
 

The equivalency of Obama, possibly having gay sex and discussions, a sexuality between a teacher and a minor students are not the same thing

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5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

To be clear, I am not OK with the teachers having sexual discussions with children
 

The equivalency of Obama, possibly having gay sex and discussions, a sexuality between a teacher and a minor students are not the same thing

 

I've got an assignment for you. Please take the rest of the day to complete the assignment because I've reached my stupidity quota for today and it's not yet 9 am.

 

Outside of your own warped mind please cite where I:

 

1. Brought up anything at all about teachers and students engaging in physical sex.

 

2. Where I compared the point that I never made above to Obama engaging in gay sex.

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I've got an assignment for you. Please take the rest of the day to complete the assignment because I've reached my stupidity quota for today and it's not yet 9 am.

 

Outside of your own warped mind please cite where I:

 

1. Brought up anything at all about teachers and students engaging in physical sex.

 

2. Where I compared the point that I never made above to Obama engaging in gay sex.

 

7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Hamsters don’t give me assignments

 

Winning.

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On 8/9/2023 at 5:13 AM, BillsFanNC said:

2) Obama wrote a letter to a girlfriend "about how he repeatedly fantasizes about making love to men."

 

 

So what? Why should we care?  Doesn't sound like something smart to say to a girlfriend.  Why do you care?

 

On 8/9/2023 at 5:13 AM, BillsFanNC said:

5) "Barack is actually just as insecure as Trump ... Barack doesn’t want to be close with people who are his equals. None of the people who are ostensibly his best friends are anywhere close to his equal."

 

I would believe this.  My theory is that well over 1/2 of big time politicians are narcissistic.  Trump for sure.  Bill Clinton, Joe Biden,  and George W Bush are too.  Reagan too probably.

 

Narcissism is based on insecurity.  so the person has to over compensate for it by being bold, brash, and charismatic to try to gain attention to try to make themselves feel better.

 

President Trump is a textbook case of a malignant narcissist.  President Obama and President Clinton are tied for second IMHO.

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So what? Why should we care?  Doesn't sound like something smart to say to a girlfriend.  Why do you care?

 

 

I would believe this.  My theory is that well over 1/2 of big time politicians are narcissistic.  Trump for sure.  Bill Clinton, Joe Biden,  and George W Bush are too.  Reagan too probably.

 

Narcissism is based on insecurity.  so the person has to over compensate for it by being bold, brash, and charismatic to try to gain attention to try to make themselves feel better.

 

President Trump is a textbook case of a malignant narcissist.  President Obama and President Clinton are tied for second IMHO.

To add to your view.  I beleive most of these political, and business, bigwigs are sociopaths thst have no real feelings like sympathy or empathy, or any genuine concern for others.  They simply have just learned to imitate those feelings and behaviors (like feigning sorrow over some loss) by observing others that do. 

As Sociopaths they naturally have high self-esteem and are threatened by anyone smarter or "better".   Narcissism is one characteristic of their psyche. Along with concern only for themselves which they've learned to hide in public.

 

 

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So what? Why should we care?  Doesn't sound like something smart to say to a girlfriend.  Why do you care?

 

 

 

The story here is how this was somehow never a story. This book was released years ago.

 

Do you think if a book came out about George Bush or Trump with an ex girlfriend making the exact same claim that we'd hear about it.... oh let's be conservative here.....constantly from day one?

 

 

 

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Alan Dershowitz: Obama Has Always Had a ‘Deep Hatred’ of Israel in His Heart.

 

Dershowitz suggested Obama’s criticism was a result of the “deep hatred” Obama had for Israel.

“Do you think Obama understands what his words have meant?” FBN host Maria Bartiromo asked.

“I think so,” Dershowitz replied. “I think he always had a deep hatred of Israel in his heart. He hid it very well. He called me to the Oval Office, and he said Alan, you know I have Israel’s back. I didn’t know he had a target on it. He has never been supportive of Israel. And finally, his true feelings have come out now that he’s no longer president, doesn’t have to be elected.”

 

https://matzav.com/dershowitz-slams-obama-he-always-had-a-deep-hatred-of-israel-in-his-heart/

 

 

 

QED: Obama and Farrakhan.

“After the 10/7 massacre, Obama decried the ‘occupation’ of Palestine, which Farrakhan claims the Jews ‘stole,’ and the former president failed to condemn anti-Semitism in his own party. On this issue, Obama and Farrakhan may be as close and collegial as they were in that 2005 photo.”

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/11/obama-and-farrakhan.php

 

 

 

Related: Obama: Avatar of the New Anti-Semitism.

 

“Obama is back. The gaping holes in Joe Biden’s cognitive abilities have been the locus of Obama’s third term. He’s been there as ever, allowing us to project our own delusions on his blank screen, while he uses the cover to accomplish what his suavely masked hatred wishes to achieve.”

 

https://spectator.org/obama-avatar-of-the-new-antisemitism/

 

 

 

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(pre-presidency) He hasn't changed.

 

 

 

"At diner, Obama brushes off question on Hamas. Says, 'Why can’t I just eat my waffle?'"

Yes, Obama's famous "Why can’t I just eat my waffle?" was a reaction to a question about Hamas.

 

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2008/4/21/18576555/at-diner-obama-brushes-off-question-on-hamas-says-why-can-t-i-just-eat-my-waffle

 

 

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