White Linen Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Again, who cares? HGH seems like a perfectly acceptable remedy for someone suffering withering and atrophy in a muscle, which absolutely happened to Manning (in the big Washington Post story on the topic). If it helped him recover, why should it matter? All drugs matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 All drugs matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I do think HGH will become more mainstream not too far down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 There are very few diagnoses where Somatropin can be prescribed and I seriously doubt Manning's wife has any of them. One simple way to see is when the "prescribing" began. All the FDA approved indications manifest in childhood. In fact, there's even fewer diagnoses where HGH should be taken into adulthood. Prove you have a hail and wings before you post; I do not want to hear excuses how halos and wings can not be seen on camera. Al Jezeera. Really. Tune in and you will be on a no fly list. Then again it may be better than reading Sully. I believe Al Jezeera more than Sulky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I'm not sure what it takes to make you suspicious in this case. But you can check out the place where the HGH was being sent from. I'm willing to bet that this guy is not her regular doctor..... http://www.theguyerinstitute.com/index.php/about-the-guyer-institute You mean ONDAMED is a neuro feedback device developed in Germany. It utilizes the measurement of bioelectrical impedance fields or the body's "overall energy fields" to derive information that would otherwise be difficult to ascertain by any other mechanism such as traditional blood tests. It is used therapeutically and diagnostically to rebalance anomalies in the body's overall energy fields as directly or indirectly regulated by the autonomic nervous system. It can be very helpful in restoring the body's own healing mechanisms to a more optimal state through the rebalancing of the body's cellular energy systems. probably isn't on the level? So he goes to this Guyer Clinic to receive "holistic treaments" after his neck surgeries...and his wife then receives HGH from this same clinic? Families sharing a health care provider? Never happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Leave it alone. He's not a Patriot*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) This is a classic case of nice guys always being innocent in the court of public vs disliked guys always being guilty. There is not enough there to prove guilt beyond a reasonably doubt. However, if this were Brady no one would be coming to his defense. So I think the last post says it all. Edited January 5, 2016 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I was really impressed by Manning's post-game comments on the field. He acknowledged how difficult it is to come off of the bench after having no reps with the starters and said he felt bad for all of his backups over his career. He made it a point to mention that Osweiler had some tough breaks that led to his getting pulled out of the game. He came right out and said he felt the O-line blocked better for him than they did for Osweiler. He said the running backs ran harder for him than they did for Osweiler. That's all I can remember off the top of my head, but man, I just found all of it to be super classy. through the backs and line under the bus though But it's cheating, right? He got an unfair advantage. He should be suspended for 4 games at least. just say yes to PEDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 through the backs and line under the bus though Yes, I suppose it could be viewed that way. But what stuck out more, to me, was his support for Osweiler. I always thought of Manning like Favre, as in, doing anything possible to not lose the starting job - i.e., play hurt (admirable) and not mentor the backup (dickish). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Are you concerned he won't be disciplined if he took HGH? Are you thinking the NFL has a Peyton exemption from HGH or other performance enhancing drugs? It's certainly looking that way. Especially if they don't get a "Wells Report" on this. I hope you never get jury duty. Married? Ever had anything like that shipped to you? My wife has. You know about their fertility stuff, right? He may be guilty, but nothing yet - including the "source" who later recanted - proves anything. I'm not trying to convict the guy ... my point is that there is more incriminating evidence (circumstantial as it may be) against Peyton than there was against Brady, and he's getting a pass. And of course the source would recant ... he's opened himself up to criminal charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 You mean probably isn't on the level? Families sharing a health care provider? Never happens... Sure, they share Primary Care Physicians all the time. Yet here they both are, just happens that both are being treated at some "longevity clinic"--he for postoperative recovery or something, and she for......well, I'm guessing there is no disease that she has that would require HGH to treat. If she did, her PCP would have referred her to an actual Endocrinologist who would be treating her. She wouldn't have to seek help from a guy peddling "bioidentical hormone replacement". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Sure, they share Primary Care Physicians all the time. Yet here they both are, just happens that both are being treated at some "longevity clinic"--he for postoperative recovery or something, and she for......well, I'm guessing there is no disease that she has that would require HGH to treat. If she did, her PCP would have referred her to an actual Endocrinologist who would be treating her. She wouldn't have to seek help from a guy peddling "bioidentical hormone replacement". You articulated a point I tried to make in an earlier post perfectly. If she were ill, she would have visited a doctor. She wouldn't have gone to "a guy". It's amazing how people can run from the facts when they don't want believe something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 You articulated a point I tried to make in an earlier post perfectly. If she were ill, she would have visited a doctor. She wouldn't have gone to "a guy". It's amazing how people can run from the facts when they don't want believe something. And you know for a fact that she didn't? Amazing how people can invent stories and call them facts just because they don't root for a certain athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I do think HGH will become more mainstream not too far down the road. It already is. All drugs matter Do they matter if most of the league is using the stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 And you know for a fact that she didn't? Amazing how people can invent stories and call them facts just because they don't root for a certain athlete. Have you visited that doctor's website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) She could have been doing what a lot of rich people do: trying to find a way to beat aging with money by going to one of these "anti aging" "holistic" clinics. Is it a lot of quack medicine? Sure. But I posted the Vanity Fair article about people in Hollywood (many famous actors BTW) using HGH and other "anti-aging" drugs to try to look and feel younger. It happens much more than anyone realizes. Or did you think 50 year old male actors with washboard abs and 50 year old female actors who look 25 was all sunshine, smoothies, yoga and beaches? LOL Here's the bottom line: she had a prescription for whatever came from that clinic. She had it shipped to her home. The only crime here was the source who violated this woman's right to medical privacy. The fact that it's a quack clinic that prescribes things like HGH for "off label" uses does not mean that her husband took her medicine. Edited January 5, 2016 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Says here that the HGH was actually shipped to a "Marcia Manning", with the zip code of the billing address in Boston, MA. Methinks the Patriots** are up to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Some interesting background info on Charles Sly: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/sports/baseball/al-jazeera-peyton-manning-derek-jeter-charles-sly.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Says here that the HGH was actually shipped to a "Marcia Manning", with the zip code of the billing address in Boston, MA. Methinks the Patriots** are up to something. Why are you posting links to Tom Brady's wardrobe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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