Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I find it very hard to consider any QB who throws the ball 18 times for 1 INT and no TD's as having a "spectacular" day. It's the lowered bar of buffalo expectations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 The INT was on TT mostly. People are right that it is the same route that the TD to Woods a few weeks ago came on and the route requires the receiver to take the defender up the field faking the fade and then to cut back underneath. The timing was off. Because they had mismanaged the clock and TT was thinking "gotta leave time for the field goal if we don't make it" he threw it early before Hogan had had chance to set the DB up. The only way Hogan could have caught that was to dive inside the DB at the line but thar wasn't the route. It was the Woods route - the QB didn't let the play develop because they had mismanaged the play clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I have only one complaint about Tyrod's play. On 3rd down and short STOP THROWING DEEP! Move the chains instead! It's maddening! That seems easily fixed though: stop doing it. So I am overall pleased with his play. He can't or refuses to make the easy play. We had captain check down with Trent. Now we have captain long ball with Tyrod. And Hogan is terrible. It's maddening. Tyrod would have had a better day if we had a real Wr out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Just rewatched the game and I think it's really sad that this fan base gets so distracted by a meaningless game that they miss some of the spectacular plays Tyrod Taylor made in this game. Two throws in the final drive before the half. (The one that ended with the INT.) and the scramble deep in our end on the final TD drive are just 3 examples. And speaking of the INT, John from Hemet was 100% correct: it was Hogan's fault. That play was identical to the TD throw to Woods where he came back to the ball. That's a timing throw Tyrod makes right when Hogan was supposed to cut back for the ball. He got himself out of position by letting the defender get behind him. Really I only saw one poor throw all game: the short pass in the flat behind Gragg in the 3Q. Some here will disagree but I don't care. IMO Taylor is our franchise guy now. yep. QB is in the house. I like the team. add talent in the draft and sign our top players, and go from there. unless the injury bug raises up and kills the roster , they should be very good next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 yep. QB is in the house. I like the team. add talent in the draft and sign our top players, and go from there. unless the injury bug raises up and kills the roster , they should be very good next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boolay Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Let me see him throw the ball over 30 times and win a game. Sometimes you need the QB to carry you to victory, and I need to see him consistently show he can do that when called upon. Limiting your QB to 20 throws a game as part of your game plan Is not indicative of a franchise QB, imho. When your team runs for 250 it isnt necessary to throw 30 times a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 i have been to the last two games, and usually watch the patterns develop on passing plays. But last two weeks i just 100% focused on TT. His head never moves from the side of the field on his primary read. If his head moves at all back to the center of field or other side...100% of the times he took off running.. I like TT, but i think like others that have posted here a 1 read QB will not get it done in this league. Is he better than the dreck we have had here last 10 years...no doubt. His he a guy that can make a deep playoff run? i have serious doubts on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Guess this means we've officially moved on from EJM. I can't imagine Roman has called 38 designed QB runs in the past 4 weeks for TT. Today alone Tyrod ran 14 times (!) for 67 yards. Sure, some of that is the poor pass protection given he was sacked 3 times. But I've got to believe some of the runs were the result of not seeing the field and making throws when they were there. One-read QBs who tuck it and run don't last long in the NFL. I agree with you but at the same time suspect Roman has given him the green light to use his legs more as he sees fit. I think most of the season they've tried to coach/force TT to be a pocket passer until the last few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Tyrod Taylor needs to prove that he understands the down, distance, clock, and situation on every single play, in order to prove that he is a franchise QB. Right now, I'm not convinced. His mental clock is off. He chucks up low-percentage fade passes on critical third and fourth and shorts. He lazily operates the two minute offense. Some of this may be on Roman but frankly, Taylor needs to start taking it on himself. Edited December 28, 2015 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Who knows if he is a "franchise" quarterback. However, he's clearly shown enough that he should be the starter going into next season, and deserves an extension. There are plenty of positions on this team that need MUCH more improvement than the QB. I was at the game yesterday as I am sure many of you were. It is nice to be able to home in on Taylor and see how he has really progressed. He has made huge strides this season. He is a leader, very focused and can make all the throws. The interception was absolutely Hogans fault. TT needs to improve on the 2 minute offense. I dont know if the staff doesnt let him call the time outs and call plays himself so I cant pin it all on him but regardless that area must be cleaned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 16 whole points. Doesn't sound spectacular to me. Sounds like a loss vs anyone not named Kellen Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) 16 whole points. Doesn't sound spectacular to me. Sounds like a loss vs anyone not named Kellen Moore. 23 if Hogan doesnt screw up. Im not happy about the overall team performance either but TT has had a solid season. The sample size is large enough now to make the conclusion that we are settled at QB next year. And yes- Kellen Moore stinks any decent QB yesterday would of carved our D up. He missed many throws all over the field. Edited December 28, 2015 by billsfan_34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I'm 50/50 on Tyrod. Not sold either way yet. Maybe another wideout and RT will help his cause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I'm 50/50 on Tyrod. Not sold either way yet. Maybe another wideout and RT will help his cause Definitely another WR and RT. Miller is average at best but I have to remind myself hes a rookie. Lets hope on the left side Incognito returns. If not that may change the entire make up of our draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I'm pretty sure the INT was a "come-back-to-the-ball" play ala Woods vs Texans. Except Hogan let defender behind him. If it was, then t was a terrible decision because Hogan was in front of him, the only person going to catch that under thrown ball was the defender trailing the receiver. Other than that, he had a terrific day. But he has one big problem to work on: 1) Figure out how to throw over the middle. And despite your theory Promo, I think it is more he can't, so we don;t send guys across there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 TT is the guy for 2016. he is a stud. having said that our #1 priority should be to find someone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I am fine with Taylor being the guy... but my concerns are as follows: Durability. His legs are a huge asset but man I was very nervous with some of the shots he was taking in a meaningless game this afternoon. This has been a consistent concern over the course of the season. He's got to learn when it's smarter to slide or throw the ball away rather than putting his body at risk. Third down decision making. I don't know if this is Roman or Taylor, but in most of the games he's played in, there have been some stupid decisions made on third down. It's been a combination of bad play calling, poor decisions on who to throw the ball to, and the like. It's late on a Sunday night but with a few games fresh in my mind I could point to a few situations where I was scratching my head. Locking onto receivers. This is somewhat related to #1 but I'm still seeing him lock onto his first choice of receiver on a play, and just bolt with his legs if that one player isn't open. In the middle of the season, this was often happening where Sammy wasn't the #1 read, and he'd get himself open but Taylor wouldn't notice. He's gotten the ball to Watkins more, which is good, but on the replays today where they were showing his eyes and he would end up running the ball... he wasn't scanning the entire field. This worries me a little bit. Agree +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I find it very hard to consider any QB who throws the ball 18 times for 1 INT and no TD's as having a "spectacular" day. Ditto. Another "spectacular" performance against another schit team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Tyrod Taylor needs to prove that he understands the down, distance, clock, and situation on every single play, in order to prove that he is a franchise QB. Right now, I'm not convinced. His mental clock is off. He chucks up low-percentage fade passes on critical third and fourth and shorts. He lazily operates the two minute offense. Some of this may be on Roman but frankly, Taylor needs to start taking it on himself. Yes, I would like to see Tyrod play with some urgency as the clock winds down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 As someone who has made a lot of excuses for bad Bills Qbs, holy crap have we set our standards low. On what planet is under 200 yards, 0 tds, and 16 points spectacular? Taylor has had some good moments this year but yesterday was not a good NFL qb display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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