major Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I'm usually not one to blame the refs; however, the past few weeks of NFL officiating has been atrocious. So many games have been decided by phantom calls, or just extreme ignorance. I may hate the pats, but I saw calls tonight against them that were fishy. Is the league hiring low level entry positions for refs or is there something else going on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Refs just flat out suck this year. All over. There is no accountability, unless you count not getting to officiate playoff/super-bowl as "accountability." I've never seen an announcement with a ref getting fined, suspended, etc. It's terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 there are definitely calls that are being made that are weak or frivolous that keep drives going when the offense should have punted. Have been seeing the same thing in college. I wouldn't be surprised if the refs are given "orders" to help certain teams win. Maybe it's from the League or Mafia or maybe both, who knows, but something isn't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhDozeBills Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Yeah the refs suck. The rule book needs scaled down big time and it's ridiculous they don't have full time refs. But I don't want to hear about the refs in the Pats/Bronco game. Gronk clearly pushed off. I've seen way worse holding calls than the one in the end zone that negated a sack and led to a TD. And the clock run off was after the Bronco injury was correct according to the rules. It's amazing that one game the Pats don't get all calls go there way that it's even a discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I suspect it's less about crummy refs and more about crummy rule implementation from the league. If the league decided they'd rather see on the side of letting players play rather than on the side of flagging unnecessary roughness, PI, etc. then that's what you'd see. At the same time, there is the occasional call (like the phantom PI on Robey in London) where I think about that NBA ref who got caught years ago shaving points and I wonder if there aren't some guys on the take. I don't think there's any league wide conspiracy, but I don't think it would be the craziest thing if we found out that some big sports-betting operations had a couple of refs on the payroll. There's a lot of money in it, and a phantom call at the right time can swing a lot of money one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious Monk Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 (edited) When NFL players screw up repeatedly, they are cut. When NFL officials screw up repeatedly, they are "reassigned." Expect garbage officiating until the latter changes. Edited November 30, 2015 by Felonious Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 I'm usually not one to blame the refs; however, the past few weeks of NFL officiating has been atrocious. So many games have been decided by phantom calls, or just extreme ignorance. I may hate the pats, but I saw calls tonight against them that were fishy. Is the league hiring low level entry positions for refs or is there something else going on here? A friend said he saw the Fox pre-game show and they talked to one of the head officials about the bad calls. He said there are 17 new officials this season. He also admitted that there have been a lot of incorrect calls on the field. They replaced the older referees to save money. These new guys don't have to have a specific amount of experience. Kind of makes sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 The refs are llike baseball years ago. The phantom step on 2nd base on a double play, the strike zone gradually moved lower and outside to where it became a joke. The catch rule has never been the same since Megatron got robbed on that EZ touchdown. Im over 50, and can easily say I like what was called a catch when i was younger. Now nobody can really explain it to you where it makes sense. And you cant have different rules for different players. This QB will get the roughing call this QB wont, this DB with get the PI while another with a better rep wont. With only 16 games some of these calls can be season altering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dog Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 The refs are horrible, what an embarrassment for the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Goodell's payback for defeat at deflategate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 The NFL should fire 25% of these officials per year. Holding officials accountable for ****ty results would fix the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 When NFL players screw up repeatedly, they are cut. When NFL officials screw up repeatedly, they are "reassigned." Like priests, only even less accountable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 A friend said he saw the Fox pre-game show and they talked to one of the head officials about the bad calls. He said there are 17 new officials this season. He also admitted that there have been a lot of incorrect calls on the field. They replaced the older referees to save money. These new guys don't have to have a specific amount of experience. Kind of makes sense now. Save money?!?!?!?! this is a billion dollar industry and there worried about a few bucks!!!!! The greed of this league is astounding. They seriously need to be full time professionals, just like everybody else involved in football. Refs should go on strike until they are made full time (besides it was fun watching the replacements actually let the guys play unlike this over-officiated crap we have today) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 It would be interesting if someone would look at the spread on games and see if certain crews just happen t work games that miss the spread or make the spread and than look at calls that might have changed the spread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 A friend said he saw the Fox pre-game show and they talked to one of the head officials about the bad calls. He said there are 17 new officials this season. He also admitted that there have been a lot of incorrect calls on the field. They replaced the older referees to save money. These new guys don't have to have a specific amount of experience. Kind of makes sense now. So....back to the scabs of 2 years ago? Huh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 So....back to the scabs of 2 years ago? Huh! I would take my chances with those guys over what the league has turned into now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 The refs are llike baseball years ago. The phantom step on 2nd base on a double play, the strike zone gradually moved lower and outside to where it became a joke. The catch rule has never been the same since Megatron got robbed on that EZ touchdown. Im over 50, and can easily say I like what was called a catch when i was younger. Now nobody can really explain it to you where it makes sense. And you cant have different rules for different players. This QB will get the roughing call this QB wont, this DB with get the PI while another with a better rep wont. With only 16 games some of these calls can be season altering. Pretty much now like the NBA with rules, which is a horrible thing imo, because the NBA became unwatchable for me a while ago. I would take my chances with those guys over what the league has turned into now The scabs made the big blunder in the SEA/GB game, but other than that they were absolutely no worse than the regular refs. The reason many were angry was because the calls were actually evenly distributed--the reputation calls for high profile players and teams weren't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 A friend said he saw the Fox pre-game show and they talked to one of the head officials about the bad calls. He said there are 17 new officials this season. He also admitted that there have been a lot of incorrect calls on the field. They replaced the older referees to save money. These new guys don't have to have a specific amount of experience. Kind of makes sense now. The NFL replaced good refs to save money? I seriously doubt that. This league has hundreds of millions to burn, a bumbling commish, a bunch of off the field felons, players appealing to federal courts, and now you're saying they thought it would make sense to hire cheaper refs. No. They did stink up the Bills and Pats games yesterday, thats for sure. I can see missing the Maclin ground ball call, but the Hogan thing was unreal. Like not even remotely close. The Chung holding call in the endzone on the Branch sack cost the Pats the game. Very mild holding at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 When NFL players screw up repeatedly, they are cut. When NFL officials screw up repeatedly, they are "reassigned." Expect garbage officiating until the latter changes. So how do you create a massive pipeline of eager and qualified refs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 They should scrap the taunting penalty, and change the "receiver must become a runner" when the ball is caught in the end zone for a catch to be a "catch". Those are ticky tacky bs penalties. Offensive holding should be 5 yards not 10. And if the offense fumbles the ball out of the end zone, they should get the ball back at the 20 - unless it happened on 4th down. In that case the ball would go over to the other team - but at the 5 yard line - not the 20. [#nanker4nflcommish] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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