folz Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I know, another topic about the officiating, sorry...but I just wanted to give my impression of the inadvertent whistle play, because it is driving me nuts that everyone (since Mike Tirico first said it), keeps saying the Pats got robbed of a touchdown on that play. I think this all comes down to the Brady Rule, you know, the one where he gets extra protection from the zebras, but this time it backfired on them. Brady was fading to the sidelines pursued by Corbin Bryant. If the whistle doesn't blow, Brady may have still got the ball off, but he was going to take a shot from Bryant. The ref blew the whistle so Tommy didn't get crushed or because he assumed Brady was just going to step out rather than take the hit. If Bryant doesn't let up at the whistle, Brady might not have gotten it off, or Bryant might have tipped it, or distracted Brady enough so that the ball isn't on target. So, if the whistle doesn't blow, the pass may not have been completed. Secondly, Darby is chasing Amendola everywhere. Amendola might have got a step on him on his last spin upfield, but Darby also lets up at the whistle. Remember the whistle blew while the ball was still in the air, before reaching Darby and Amendola. So, if Darby doesn't let up at the whistle, maybe he breaks up that play. Even if not, he is in position to make the tackle if he doesn't pull up at the whistle. So, even if everything else went right for the Pats, Brady does get the ball off cleanly, no whistle, and Amendola makes the grab, they still would have had only a first down, not a TD. The ref blew the whistle to protect Brady. Then when he sees Amendola catch the ball, the ref goes "Oh sh%t." The refs huddle for an eternity and without taking into account that the Bills stopped playing at the whistle, or that the rule states it should be a do over because the whistle blew before the catch, they decide they owe the Pats something, and give them 30 free yards. The ref who blew the whistle then comes up with the excuse of coach interference to make his mistake ("protect Brady") look like it was somehow rex's fault, so the ref can try to save face. If you see the sideline video, you can see the ref is blowing the whistle so Brady doesn't get hit rather than because Rex is in his way. Sick of hearing how the Pats got robbed of a touchdown. The Bills were the only ones wronged on that play. My two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 It should havê been a deadplay. Instead they get the catch +15. Joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I know, another topic about the officiating, sorry...but I just wanted to give my impression of the inadvertent whistle play, because it is driving me nuts that everyone (since Mike Tirico first said it), keeps saying the Pats got robbed of a touchdown on that play. I think this all comes down to the Brady Rule, you know, the one where he gets extra protection from the zebras, but this time it backfired on them. Brady was fading to the sidelines pursued by Corbin Bryant. If the whistle doesn't blow, Brady may have still got the ball off, but he was going to take a shot from Bryant. The ref blew the whistle so Tommy didn't get crushed or because he assumed Brady was just going to step out rather than take the hit. If Bryant doesn't let up at the whistle, Brady might not have gotten it off, or Bryant might have tipped it, or distracted Brady enough so that the ball isn't on target. So, if the whistle doesn't blow, the pass may not have been completed. Secondly, Darby is chasing Amendola everywhere. Amendola might have got a step on him on his last spin upfield, but Darby also lets up at the whistle. Remember the whistle blew while the ball was still in the air, before reaching Darby and Amendola. So, if Darby doesn't let up at the whistle, maybe he breaks up that play. Even if not, he is in position to make the tackle if he doesn't pull up at the whistle. So, even if everything else went right for the Pats, Brady does get the ball off cleanly, no whistle, and Amendola makes the grab, they still would have had only a first down, not a TD. The ref blew the whistle to protect Brady. Then when he sees Amendola catch the ball, the ref goes "Oh sh%t." The refs huddle for an eternity and without taking into account that the Bills stopped playing at the whistle, or that the rule states it should be a do over because the whistle blew before the catch, they decide they owe the Pats something, and give them 30 free yards. The ref who blew the whistle then comes up with the excuse of coach interference to make his mistake ("protect Brady") look like it was somehow rex's fault, so the ref can try to save face. If you see the sideline video, you can see the ref is blowing the whistle so Brady doesn't get hit rather than because Rex is in his way. Sick of hearing how the Pats got robbed of a touchdown. The Bills were the only ones wronged on that play. My two cents. Didn't the official clearly blow his whistle when the ball was clearly in the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 The Buff-NE MNF Bottom Line: Despite the inevitable one-sided officiating, the New England Patriots are a decimated football team. And a decent opposing football coach with a decent QB could have beaten NE on MNF. But the Buffalo Bills have a lousy head coach and only a so-so QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I know, another topic about the officiating, sorry...but I just wanted to give my impression of the inadvertent whistle play, because it is driving me nuts that everyone (since Mike Tirico first said it), keeps saying the Pats got robbed of a touchdown on that play. I think this all comes down to the Brady Rule, you know, the one where he gets extra protection from the zebras, but this time it backfired on them. Brady was fading to the sidelines pursued by Corbin Bryant. If the whistle doesn't blow, Brady may have still got the ball off, but he was going to take a shot from Bryant. The ref blew the whistle so Tommy didn't get crushed or because he assumed Brady was just going to step out rather than take the hit. If Bryant doesn't let up at the whistle, Brady might not have gotten it off, or Bryant might have tipped it, or distracted Brady enough so that the ball isn't on target. So, if the whistle doesn't blow, the pass may not have been completed. Secondly, Darby is chasing Amendola everywhere. Amendola might have got a step on him on his last spin upfield, but Darby also lets up at the whistle. Remember the whistle blew while the ball was still in the air, before reaching Darby and Amendola. So, if Darby doesn't let up at the whistle, maybe he breaks up that play. Even if not, he is in position to make the tackle if he doesn't pull up at the whistle. So, even if everything else went right for the Pats, Brady does get the ball off cleanly, no whistle, and Amendola makes the grab, they still would have had only a first down, not a TD. The ref blew the whistle to protect Brady. Then when he sees Amendola catch the ball, the ref goes "Oh sh%t." The refs huddle for an eternity and without taking into account that the Bills stopped playing at the whistle, or that the rule states it should be a do over because the whistle blew before the catch, they decide they owe the Pats something, and give them 30 free yards. The ref who blew the whistle then comes up with the excuse of coach interference to make his mistake ("protect Brady") look like it was somehow rex's fault, so the ref can try to save face. If you see the sideline video, you can see the ref is blowing the whistle so Brady doesn't get hit rather than because Rex is in his way. Sick of hearing how the Pats got robbed of a touchdown. The Bills were the only ones wronged on that play. My two cents. I think this is precisely correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 The Buff-NE MNF Bottom Line: Despite the inevitable one-sided officiating, the New England Patriots are a decimated football team. And a decent opposing football coach with a decent QB could have beaten NE on MNF. But the Buffalo Bills have a lousy head coach and only a so-so QB. Regardless of your opinion/ agenda on the Bills HC , the fact is the Bills win that game with better QB play. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) Regardless of your opinion/ agenda on the Bills HC , the fact is the Bills win that game with better QB play. Period. Yep! Next game KC! Edited November 25, 2015 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Since the whistle didn't blow until the ball was 3/4 of the way to Amandola, it wasn't blown to protect Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 This is exactly what I thought when I saw it. Since the whistle didn't blow until the ball was 3/4 of the way to Amandola, it wasn't blown to protect Brady. Where the ball was is not material to the obvious situation. The ref likely thought he was trying to throw it out of bounds. I wholeheartedly think it was the Brady rule come back to bite them here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 This is exactly what I thought when I saw it. Where the ball was is not material to the obvious situation. The ref likely thought he was trying to throw it out of bounds. I wholeheartedly think it was the Brady rule come back to bite them here. How does blowing the whistle after the ball is down the field help protect him? He's already protected in that situation whistle or no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I read somewhere that this ref got trampled earlier in the year and got injured and he got scared when the action came right for him. I mean the guy is pretty deep into the bills sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 How does blowing the whistle after the ball is down the field help protect him? He's already protected in that situation whistle or no. In real time, it's almost as soon as he throws the ball. Don't be ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Coaches are often standing right next to that sideline official. You always see it on the NFL films and mic'd up videos and such. The ref was completely at fault here and just covering his ass. Horrible officiating. They probably robbed the Pats of a 15-20 yard catch, but they made up for it, and then some. Terrible. Bills' offense still needs to play better to beat a great team like that. The refs protect veteran QBs. That has been made obvious, no matter how much they deny it. If you suck up to the refs, they're nice to you. Refs help Brady up when he falls. We saw that Monday night. Not Tyrod, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) I know, another topic about the officiating, sorry...but I just wanted to give my impression of the inadvertent whistle play, because it is driving me nuts that everyone (since Mike Tirico first said it), keeps saying the Pats got robbed of a touchdown on that play. I think this all comes down to the Brady Rule, you know, the one where he gets extra protection from the zebras, but this time it backfired on them. Brady was fading to the sidelines pursued by Corbin Bryant. If the whistle doesn't blow, Brady may have still got the ball off, but he was going to take a shot from Bryant. The ref blew the whistle so Tommy didn't get crushed or because he assumed Brady was just going to step out rather than take the hit. If Bryant doesn't let up at the whistle, Brady might not have gotten it off, or Bryant might have tipped it, or distracted Brady enough so that the ball isn't on target. So, if the whistle doesn't blow, the pass may not have been completed. Secondly, Darby is chasing Amendola everywhere. Amendola might have got a step on him on his last spin upfield, but Darby also lets up at the whistle. Remember the whistle blew while the ball was still in the air, before reaching Darby and Amendola. So, if Darby doesn't let up at the whistle, maybe he breaks up that play. Even if not, he is in position to make the tackle if he doesn't pull up at the whistle. So, even if everything else went right for the Pats, Brady does get the ball off cleanly, no whistle, and Amendola makes the grab, they still would have had only a first down, not a TD. The ref blew the whistle to protect Brady. Then when he sees Amendola catch the ball, the ref goes "Oh sh%t." The refs huddle for an eternity and without taking into account that the Bills stopped playing at the whistle, or that the rule states it should be a do over because the whistle blew before the catch, they decide they owe the Pats something, and give them 30 free yards. The ref who blew the whistle then comes up with the excuse of coach interference to make his mistake ("protect Brady") look like it was somehow rex's fault, so the ref can try to save face. If you see the sideline video, you can see the ref is blowing the whistle so Brady doesn't get hit rather than because Rex is in his way. Sick of hearing how the Pats got robbed of a touchdown. The Bills were the only ones wronged on that play. My two cents. Well said. The correct call should have been a do-over. Blowing the whistle while the ball is in the air negates the play (completion or not) and eradicates the flag on Rex. It should have been a do over. (I'm not that familiar with the rules - the source of this was the on-air Ref employed by espn, Walt ...something.) I have no doubt that if Darby had intercepted the ball, then only the penalty would have been called, resulting in 15 yds and a 1st down for the Pats. Edited November 25, 2015 by Never NEVER Give-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzboy54 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I read that the Ref that blew the whistle was caught in a player collision in week 2. He broke 9 ribs and suffered a collapsed lung. So he was pretty effed up. This was his first or second game back. He had Bradey and the defense baring down on him, he most likely simply got scared. It was a genuin mistake IMO, but they jobbed us by saying the ball was caught first. It clearly wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Since the whistle didn't blow until the ball was 3/4 of the way to Amandola, it wasn't blown to protect Brady. Then why blow the whistle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Did Rex step out only AFTER the whistle? If so, no flag there either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 In real time, it's almost as soon as he throws the ball. Don't be ridiculous. No, in real time the ball was almost in Amendola's hands. It was close enough to Amendola that the refs - wrongly - said the whistle wasn't blown until after he caught it. Blowing the whistle doesn't protect Brady there. The Bills can not legally hit him in that situation anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 If you suck up to the refs, they're nice to you. Refs help Brady up when he falls. We saw that Monday night. Not Tyrod, though. This is one of my pet peeves about the current state of NFL officiating. The refs are too chummy with the players and coaches. As you say, they help some players up. Why is a ref doing that? They also chit chat and chuckle with the players during time outs. I think this stuff makes them impartial at some level. I even saw in one article posted here that the reason for the long huddle after the inadvertent whistle took so long because the refs were trying to appease everyone. How about going by what the rules say and screw 'em if they don't like it? Refs should never even talk to players, only talk to coaches about legal rules things, and never help players up IMHO. Refs should be impartial and as isolated from the players as possible. As to my second point above, why do the refs ask the coaches if they want to take a penalty or not. Used to be team captains did that. When did that change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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