Failed Expectations, Rex Ryan is not a leader of men

[Augie]

He hasn't done anything to make me feel the way I do about why the team has performed the way it has.

 

If we had to make a list of reasons we lost, Rex aint on it.

 

We lost because of the dropoffs (in order):

 

From TT to EJ

From Aaron Williams to Duke

From Sammy to Woods

From Karlos to Boom

From Harvin to Hogan

 

Why anyone wants to blame the coach is beyond me.

Aside from the fact that he's supposed to be a defensive guru, and we look like crap on D compared to last year, I just generally dislike loud-mouth blow hards. I'll be the first to admit that the injuries are a huge factor, but the guy seems to work too hard to be likeable and he loves the camera. He's one hell of a salesman, but his team has a lot of talent (regardless of injuries), and they have a losing record and just lost to a team that came in with a 1-5 record. Yeah, there's that pesky bottom line.

[Billsfan369]

Rex enters the scene and says "Get ready Buffalo, you're going to the Playoffs". Sounds good. Can anybody imagine being promoted to a high level position in a company and declaring within 7-8 months you will achieve something the company hasn't achieved in 15 years? Setting those expectations out of the gate, it just doesn't seem like a very mature talking point. What if you fail to reach this unlikely goal? What out do you have? We already know how this will play with Rex, just see the Jets Super Bowl guarantees . "I expect my team to _____ every year and I'm not afraid to say it". Ok Rex, sounds good. Thanks for the conditional statement after the emphatic declaration. Personally, I don't think I would do so well if I set my bosses expectations at the moon, barely got off the ground, and then conditioned it with "well, I like to aim high, my bad".

 

Then we hear this consistent phrase "Players coach". Players can say whatever they want, "I'm not going to put a muzzle on my players". Reports from last year had Jets players discussing Ryan not holding the team accountable. Multiple players backed these reports up. At the time the Bills fan base was still in Rex Ryan dreamland so we didn't even consider the possibility of those comments having merit. Say what you want, not holding people accountable.... In the corporate world that is what you call a friend boss. It's a guy that does more to be liked than he does to bring the best out of his team. In my career I have had one person who maximized my ability that I also liked, but I assure you that person did not care one bit if I in fact liked them, it was just a by product of the respect I had for them. It's a coaches/bosses job to bring accountability, leadership, and the best out of people. Do you think coaches saying anything, players saying anything, and your main leader behaving more like a player than a coach is a functional leadership model?

 

I think players coaches can be successful. Sometimes when people buy in emotionally it can lead to incredible things both in business and in football, but a line needs to be drawn. Dick Vermeil was a players coach, Pete Carroll is a players coach. They both didn't run micromanaged top down military style teams, but they both also represented a consistent image of what leadership is. The players they had bought in emotionally. The emotion they put out was real. Rex and his words, they just don't feel like they're sincere. It reminds me of a guy that wouldn't stop talking about how he loves Sabres hockey and wants to buy a snow plow 5 minutes after moving so he can fit in and make people feel like he is one of them. Oh ya, that's right, Rex also wants to be our friend.

 

What I know of Rex Ryan. He could be a great coordinator, he could be a great TV analyst, but he should not be in a leadership position. Grandiose expectations go undelivered, accountability problems, need to be liked by all, no ability to learn from mistakes in behavior, and a scheme he is married to more than the players who play in it. I feel as strongly about knowing Ryan is not NFL HC material as any HC we have had since the playoff drought. He has been living off his coordinator days with extreme talent and the two AFC Championship runs.

that covers it !!!!!

[Jerry Jabber]

Yes. He had the flu, and it was a fluke. We won on a punt return.

Haha!! Okay, I got it now Mrs. Ryan, I'm sorry I hurt you and your husbands feelings.

 

Never mind that the D shut down Rodgers that game and Mario finished it off with a strip sack of Rodgers which led to a safety.

[Jobu]

The dark side is no good for us. Who the hell did we think we were just pissing away the Schwartz like that?

[Nuncha]

Starting:

Quarterback

Wide Receiver 1

Wide Receiver 2

Strong Safety

DTackle (Captain)

 

Backup:

Running back

 

Even with all these players hurt, the Bills did enough to win today, in spite of two consecutive plays by the backup QB that dug them into a hole they'd have to claw their way out of.

 

I'm pissed that we gave up the go ahead touchdown and I'm pissed that we let them hold the ball for 9.5 minutes to start the third quarter, and that falls directly on Rex's D.

 

But Jesus.

 

Today had nothing to do with coaching.

 

Let me also add that Duke Williams is a !@#$ing liability and Corey Graham aint much better. We are suffering big time from Aaron Williams being out. If Bills fans should be concerned about one thing, it's that he recovers enough to rejoin this team. Because they need him badly.

 

I feel the same - pissed the D allowed the go ahead TD and allowed them to hold the ball most of the 3rd quarter. I have high expectations for the defense, especially after seeing them perform the last two years. I expect the QB's to play crappy at times because they aren't top notch in this league. Defense is supposed to carry this team, not our backup QB.

Edited October 26, 2015 by Azucho98

[BuffaloBillsForever]

Rex is not the problem Bills fans, it's the GM!

[The Big Cat]

Rex is not the problem Bills fans, it's the GM!

 

Oh Jesus.

[PolishDave]

 

He hasn't done anything to make me feel the way I do about why the team has performed the way it has.

 

If we had to make a list of reasons we lost, Rex aint on it.

 

We lost because of the dropoffs (in order):

 

From TT to EJ

From Aaron Williams to Duke

From Sammy to Woods

From Karlos to Boom

From Harvin to Hogan

 

Why anyone wants to blame the coach is beyond me.

Stud post!

 

Coaching didn't lose jack today.......EJ did. You can't always force a college level QB to play good NFL football. Sometimes college boy just plain sucks, a lot like EJ.

 

IF the whole team was healthy today, we easily steamroll that piece of crap Jags team. It would have been a blowout.

Edited October 26, 2015 by PolishDave

[JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS]

Rex is more like the President of a frat house.

 

Can we put Rex on double secret probation?

[KOKBILLS]

Just like he did on the Jets sidelines last year. My favorite quote from last year was his "we will 1000% better in the second game against Buffalo" only to be beaten 38-3.

 

After finishing last year 4-12 I still don't get how he managed to get hired in Buffalo

He's one hell of a salesman...

[PolishDave]

 

Can we put Rex on double secret probation?

I like where this is going......

[BackInDaDay]

the injuries to our O have crippled what Roman can do, but i'm concerned with his play calling this game, that put our O at a disadvantage prior to the snap.

and as far as the D goes, i'm concerned that we seem to do more reacting to an attack, rather than dictating where the opponent must go with the ball

 

i was very optimistic about this staff, and i think they're more surprised than anyone about what hasn't been accomplished. not very different than Marrone's far less experienced staff.

here's hoping they can avoid fighting with their neighbors over the bye week, and devote themselves to analyzing what needs fixing

[Mr. WEO]

I don't think the players respect Rex. To them, after Marrone, it probably looked pretty cool to have Rex coming to Buffalo. Then he was the fun guy at training camp. Now that they are struggling, they see nothing. They see a guy who can't change course. They see the Jets looking far better with less talent overall. They remember the circumstances of Rex's firing in Jersey.

 

I'm sure they like him, but I doubt they respect him as a great coach. They don't respect him as a leader like the pats see BB or the Cards see Arians. Or even Coughlin. Or Carroll.

[Dorkington]

Nobody in their right mind would want to coach this team. Might as well ride the flames.

[MDH]

I don't think the players respect Rex. To them, after Marrone, it probably looked pretty cool to have Rex coming to Buffalo. Then he was the fun guy at training camp. Now that they are struggling, they see nothing. They see a guy who can't change course. They see the Jets looking far better with less talent overall. They remember the circumstances of Rex's firing in Jersey.

 

I'm sure they like him, but I doubt they respect him as a great coach. They don't respect him as a leader like the pats see BB or the Cards see Arians. Or even Coughlin. Or Carroll.

 

Or this is just you projecting.

 

Say this is what you think of Rex but to pretend your opinion is what other's likely think is a bit much.

[17 Josh Allen]

Ok let's take away the following players from the Pats.

 

Brady QB

Edelman wr

Amendola wr

Dion Lewis rb

Blount RB playing hurt like shady is

2 starting offensive linemen

One of there best run stuffers Like are Kyle Williams

The best starting safety Like are Williams

And one of the best corners, we don't have mckellvn

Let's see how any team would do.

I don't think are season is over by a long shot

Let's get are players back and then judge this team.

[bigK14094]

All this bring back Schwartz talk......yes, he should have been kept.......but Rex ego wouldn't allow that. The Bills are paying Schwartz $3 mil this year and next....to do nothing btw. Rex fired him. Wanted his buds from the Jets staff.....so Rex could call his own D plays.

[Mr. WEO]

 

Or this is just you projecting.

 

Say this is what you think of Rex but to pretend your opinion is what other's likely think is a bit much.

 

I was clearly presenting my opinion. My opinion is that is what they think.

 

This is what an opinion is.

[Mr. WEO]

Don't be surprised if Rex ends up with more control of the franchise at the end of the year....I don't like it but I can pretty easily envision a scenario where that happens.

 

 

Holy cow....what??

[billsfan_34]

Rex enters the scene and says "Get ready Buffalo, you're going to the Playoffs". Sounds good. Can anybody imagine being promoted to a high level position in a company and declaring within 7-8 months you will achieve something the company hasn't achieved in 15 years? Setting those expectations out of the gate, it just doesn't seem like a very mature talking point. What if you fail to reach this unlikely goal? What out do you have? We already know how this will play with Rex, just see the Jets Super Bowl guarantees . "I expect my team to _____ every year and I'm not afraid to say it". Ok Rex, sounds good. Thanks for the conditional statement after the emphatic declaration. Personally, I don't think I would do so well if I set my bosses expectations at the moon, barely got off the ground, and then conditioned it with "well, I like to aim high, my bad".

 

Then we hear this consistent phrase "Players coach". Players can say whatever they want, "I'm not going to put a muzzle on my players". Reports from last year had Jets players discussing Ryan not holding the team accountable. Multiple players backed these reports up. At the time the Bills fan base was still in Rex Ryan dreamland so we didn't even consider the possibility of those comments having merit. Say what you want, not holding people accountable.... In the corporate world that is what you call a friend boss. It's a guy that does more to be liked than he does to bring the best out of his team. In my career I have had one person who maximized my ability that I also liked, but I assure you that person did not care one bit if I in fact liked them, it was just a by product of the respect I had for them. It's a coaches/bosses job to bring accountability, leadership, and the best out of people. Do you think coaches saying anything, players saying anything, and your main leader behaving more like a player than a coach is a functional leadership model?

 

I think players coaches can be successful. Sometimes when people buy in emotionally it can lead to incredible things both in business and in football, but a line needs to be drawn. Dick Vermeil was a players coach, Pete Carroll is a players coach. They both didn't run micromanaged top down military style teams, but they both also represented a consistent image of what leadership is. The players they had bought in emotionally. The emotion they put out was real. Rex and his words, they just don't feel like they're sincere. It reminds me of a guy that wouldn't stop talking about how he loves Sabres hockey and wants to buy a snow plow 5 minutes after moving so he can fit in and make people feel like he is one of them. Oh ya, that's right, Rex also wants to be our friend.

 

What I know of Rex Ryan. He could be a great coordinator, he could be a great TV analyst, but he should not be in a leadership position. Grandiose expectations go undelivered, accountability problems, need to be liked by all, no ability to learn from mistakes in behavior, and a scheme he is married to more than the players who play in it. I feel as strongly about knowing Ryan is not NFL HC material as any HC we have had since the playoff drought. He has been living off his coordinator days with extreme talent and the two AFC Championship runs.

This was very well thought out and really is nothing but the truth. If people cant see all this so be it. Maybe I am partial because I never liked the Rex hire in the first place. I knew what he was. We are all so shell shocked from the past 15 years that some grab onto any glimmer of hope--not that there is anything wrong with that but its where we are. Buffalo right now is sports town hell and we cannot get a break or poor decisions are constantly made.