Buffalo2525 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Still don't understand why Bryce brown got cut. It makes no sense whatsoever. Especially considering the fact that they know McCoy is going to get injured at some point during the season with how much times they plan to run a game. Going into the Giants this week I would feel way more better having karlos/brown then karlos/Dixon. Dixon is a horrendous back. This is just my personal opinion. Who would you guys rather have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Rex sees Brown as a fumbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Dixon is one of the league's better special teamers. Your 3rd back has to be a special teamer. Brown wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRex Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Actually, my third string RB (assuming Karlos beats him out is neither Bryce or Booby, its Fred Jax since we are talking pure fantasy here and just ranking them as players. Ol' Fred is hurt too much as an elder to think of him as a starter, but unless cap balancing he is my #2 or #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Still don't understand why Bryce brown got cut. It makes no sense whatsoever. Especially considering the fact that they know McCoy is going to get injured at some point during the season with how much times they plan to run a game. Going into the Giants this week I would feel way more better having karlos/brown then karlos/Dixon. Dixon is a horrendous back. This is just my personal opinion. Who would you guys rather have? Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Boobie Dixon is hands down a talent at special teams, an underrated position, which is of major need! Steve Tasker was not the best WR, but a great at special teams. Tasker was a very good wide receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Boobie Dixon is hands down a talent at special teams, an underrated position, which is of major need! Steve Tasker was not the best WR, but a great at special teams. Jim Kelly disagreed and when Tasker played spot duty he played well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schick Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Tasker was a very good wide receiver. When Tasker started getting regular reps at WR, that marked the beginning of the end in terms of the Bills having top-flight talent. Excellent football player and not horrible at WR by any means, but no way someone to rely on offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 When Tasker started getting regular reps at WR, that marked the beginning of the end in terms of the Bills having top-flight talent. Excellent football player and not horrible at WR by any means, but no way someone to rely on offensively. Agreed, but as the WR corps was getting thin, Kelly pleaded to put Tasker out there. He was then consistently beating the corners & safeties and getting open a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Still don't understand why Bryce brown got cut. It makes no sense whatsoever. Especially considering the fact that they know McCoy is going to get injured at some point during the season with how much times they plan to run a game. Going into the Giants this week I would feel way more better having karlos/brown then karlos/Dixon. Dixon is a horrendous back. This is just my personal opinion. Who would you guys rather have? You should ask why Brown didn't squarely beat out Dixon last year when he had the golden opportunity. Maybe because the guy isn't really that good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Rex sees Brown as a fumbler This. There is a reason no one signed Brown. The guy fumbles and can't play ST. Not very good for a 3rd string RB. I hope they bring Wood up from the PS and give him some carries if Boobie looks bad again as the backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I agree. Every time Dixon carries the ball I cringe. I really hope he's not the #2 RB this week against NY. When he's in the backfield the D can just stack the LOS. I don't see a valid reason why he should get any carries whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Rex sees Brown as a fumbler I don't think it's just Rex. Anthony Lynn went on record saying some pretty critical things: "The position coach working with Brown every day knows this is a problem. “He has been careless with the football his whole career,” running backs coach Anthony Lynn said. “He’s gotten away with it. But now that defenses have caught up with offenses and ball security, they practice it every day. They’re more worried about taking the ball from you, than tackling you.” “To be honest with you,” Lynn said, “I haven’t seen as much improvement as I was hoping to see. Right now, over his career, he’s putting the ball on the ground every 56 touches. Whereas, LeSean is putting it on the ground every 125 touches. So I want to see more progress and I want to see it quickly." The problem with Brown? He carries the ball "like a baton,” Lynn said. His wrist is too often below his elbow — the way he’s run since high school. This loose, arm-pumping motion is one reason Brown was one of the nation’s top recruits out of high school, a five-star prospect who could pick his destination. On to the NFL, he averaged 4.6 yards per carry in two seasons with Philadelphia and the Bills traded away a fourth-round pick to get him. Lynn says Brown must buy in. “You have to make some sacrifices to your running style for ball security,” Lynn said. “That’s what we’re emphasizing. I’m still trying to get him there. We’re all trying to get him there and get him to turn the corner. Some guys can turn the corner, very few don’t. We’re hoping that he does. “It’s definitely fixable because I’ve had backs who put the ball on the ground before. It’s just an awareness issue. But they have to be willing to make those sacrifices and changes to their game. I haven’t been with Bryce that long. We got into this training camp to get it fixed and that’s my job — to get it done.” That was the article that put the writing on the wall for me with Brown. When your position coach says "to be honest with you, I haven't seen as much improvement as I was hoping to see"...."I want to see more progress and I want to see it quickly" "Brown must buy in" that basically says to me the guy is a coaching issue, he ISN'T buying in to what he's being coached to do and trying to correct the problem, and that is very likely why he's still unemployed after two weeks despite tremendous physical talent and ability. Contrary to what some here think, I think Whaley has no ego invested in specific players. He traded a 4th for Brown because he thought the guy's physical talent could make that a steal if they could coach him up. No one who has seen some of Brown's moves can doubt his physical talent. But once Lynn said "he isn't buying in, he isn't trying to improve as we're coaching him to do", Whaley nodded and got out the scissors. Edited October 2, 2015 by Hopeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 This. There is a reason no one signed Brown. The guy fumbles and can't play ST. Not very good for a 3rd string RB. I hope they bring Wood up from the PS and give him some carries if Boobie looks bad again as the backup. I would kind of like to see them activate Wood this week. If McCoy is out we're one Williams sprained ankle away from no running game. Dixon was not that bad last year on a team with no run blocking to speak of: 4.1 ypc. I do wonder if his calf is still bothering him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I would kind of like to see them activate Wood this week. If McCoy is out we're one Williams sprained ankle away from no running game. Dixon was not that bad last year on a team with no run blocking to speak of: 4.1 ypc. I do wonder if his calf is still bothering him. I am thinking the same way. I thought Cierre Wood looked like our best option after Karlos based on what we could see in the preseason. I don't see Boobie contributing other than short yardage situations, and even there he hasn't had the same level of success as he did last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Still don't understand why Bryce brown got cut. It makes no sense whatsoever. Especially considering the fact that they know McCoy is going to get injured at some point during the season with how much times they plan to run a game. Going into the Giants this week I would feel way more better having karlos/brown then karlos/Dixon. Dixon is a horrendous back. This is just my personal opinion. Who would you guys rather have? Special teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I don't think it's just Rex. Anthony Lynn went on record saying some pretty critical things: "The position coach working with Brown every day knows this is a problem. He has been careless with the football his whole career, running backs coach Anthony Lynn said. Hes gotten away with it. But now that defenses have caught up with offenses and ball security, they practice it every day. Theyre more worried about taking the ball from you, than tackling you. To be honest with you, Lynn said, I havent seen as much improvement as I was hoping to see. Right now, over his career, hes putting the ball on the ground every 56 touches. Whereas, LeSean is putting it on the ground every 125 touches. So I want to see more progress and I want to see it quickly." The problem with Brown? He carries the ball "like a baton, Lynn said. His wrist is too often below his elbow the way hes run since high school. This loose, arm-pumping motion is one reason Brown was one of the nations top recruits out of high school, a five-star prospect who could pick his destination. On to the NFL, he averaged 4.6 yards per carry in two seasons with Philadelphia and the Bills traded away a fourth-round pick to get him. Lynn says Brown must buy in. You have to make some sacrifices to your running style for ball security, Lynn said. Thats what were emphasizing. Im still trying to get him there. Were all trying to get him there and get him to turn the corner. Some guys can turn the corner, very few dont. Were hoping that he does. Its definitely fixable because Ive had backs who put the ball on the ground before. Its just an awareness issue. But they have to be willing to make those sacrifices and changes to their game. I havent been with Bryce that long. We got into this training camp to get it fixed and thats my job to get it done. That was the article that put the writing on the wall for me with Brown. When your position coach says "to be honest with you, I haven't seen as much improvement as I was hoping to see"...."I want to see more progress and I want to see it quickly" "Brown must buy in" that basically says to me the guy is a coaching issue, he ISN'T buying in to what he's being coached to do and trying to correct the problem, and that is very likely why he's still unemployed after two weeks despite tremendous physical talent and ability. Contrary to what some here think, I think Whaley has no ego invested in specific players. He traded a 4th for Brown because he thought the guy's physical talent could make that a steal if they could coach him up. No one who has seen some of Brown's moves can doubt his physical talent. But once Lynn said "he isn't buying in, he isn't trying to improve as we're coaching him to do", Whaley nodded and got out the scissors. Great post. Certainly clarifies why the decision was made. And a good sign that Whaley does the right thing rather than HIS (rogue) thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 There has been a great deal of negative chatter on this forum this week regarding Dixon. I get it - he did not have a good game last week. However, I think people may have forgotten how he attained near folk hero status last year. He was absolutely our best back for a significant portion of last season, with Spiller failing and Jackson hurt. Even when Jackson returned, he was clearly not the same and Dixon was the most reliable back. I am certainly willing to give Boobie some time to work himself out of whatever his issue is. I suspect lingering effects from the calf injury he suffered which kept him out of the pre-season. He is likely going to need some time to regain top form. Given his willingness and ability to play special teams, his running style, work ethic, and leadership I would much rather have him than Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Dixon is one of the league's better special teamers. Your 3rd back has to be a special teamer. Brown wasn't. This a million times - it's been posted, it's been written, its even been talked about by the Bills brass in interviews. Seems Rex is quite a Boobie guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 This a million times - it's been posted, it's been written, its even been talked about by the Bills brass in interviews. Seems Rex is quite a Boobie guy... they don't trust Brown. Period. And apparently no one else does either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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