ExiledInIllinois Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I am naive... Is there really that much of a "good ole boy network" in BFLO... I have been away too long. In Chicago, you see how the cops protected the Daly's... Look into the Kochman case." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooderson Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 So the rape kit was tampered with and somebody was helping out the victim by bringing it to their attention that the kit had been tampered with? Or Somebody tampered with the kit and threw it in the face of the girl's mother? Sorry, I'm at work so I've just read snippets of what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 So the rape kit was tampered with and somebody was helping out the victim by bringing it to their attention that the kit had been tampered with? Or Somebody tampered with the kit and threw it in the face of the girl's mother? Sorry, I'm at work so I've just read snippets of what's going on. At this point, one of those seems to be the logical jump. Which? Don't know. A tampered kit makes a conviction real hard though, I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Here's a possibility: Kane's attorney is such a scum... Have somebody taint evidence and then claim it hurts them more! Brilliant... I was wondering how they would play this... He's learned a lot from dealing w/the porn world! A tampered kit makes a conviction real hard though, I imagine. That's not what Cambria is saying. He is saying this hurts Kane more! Somebody didn't like the evidence... Brilliant, now Kane's the victim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 So the rape kit was tampered with and somebody was helping out the victim by bringing it to their attention that the kit had been tampered with? Or Somebody tampered with the kit and threw it in the face of the girl's mother? Sorry, I'm at work so I've just read snippets of what's going on. The second one doesn't make much sense to me. There's only one possible response to the kit being left on her door and that is exactly what happened. It goes public and then even more investigation begins. So if someone actually did this to intimidate, they are incredibly stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 @HamburgNYPolice Regarding Evidence http://fb.me/1WXtq9rfk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The second one doesn't make much sense to me. There's only one possible response to the kit being left on her door and that is exactly what happened. It goes public and then even more investigation begins. So if someone actually did this to intimidate, they are incredibly stupid. Yeah! Everything is missing in it... Even the stuff that hurts Kane, like the DNA on the shoulder (supposedly where the bite marks are?)... I mean the evidence is all gone, totally FUBARRed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Or a sympathizer of the alledged victim knew the evidence was weak or cleared him, and wanted to make Kane's side look guilty of tampering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 @HamburgNYPolice Regarding Evidence http://fb.me/1WXtq9rfk Or a sympathizer of the alledged victim knew the evidence was weak or cleared him, and wanted to make Kane's side look guilty of tampering. How could that kit have made its way to the accuser's mother's doorstep? Are the police going to claim that someone stole evidence in an investigation or that they released it to someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I can see no other result here other than the criminal case will be dismissed. Keep in mind, criminal burden of proof is "beyond a reasonable doubt" (and without the DNA evidence, high profile defendant, he said/she said, the case is a loser). On the other hand, the civil case can go forward as the burden of proof is "by a preponderance of the evidence" (meaning it is more likely than not that he committed an intentional tort of battery/assault. The !@#$ up with the rape kit will bear on credibility of the witnesses, but the driving force of a civil case will be each of their stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I can see no other result here other than the criminal case will be dismissed. Keep in mind, criminal burden of proof is "beyond a reasonable doubt" (and without the DNA evidence, high profile defendant, he said/she said, the case is a loser). On the other hand, the civil case can go forward as the burden of proof is "by a preponderance of the evidence" (meaning it is more likely than not that he committed an intentional tort of battery/assault. The !@#$ up with the rape kit will bear on credibility of the witnesses, but the driving force of a civil case will be each of their stories. Then there's also whatever the result of the investigation into the potential tampering. That will fall on someone eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) It's known that Kane has at least one cop, as a family friend and on his payroll. We've all seen enough CSI to know how that stuff works. Hell, we were reminded how destroying evidence works in favor of the accused in the Tom Brady case, when he destroyed his phone. Could this be the same situation on a larger scale? Edited September 23, 2015 by mastershake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Here's a possibility: Kane's attorney is such a scum... Have somebody taint evidence and then claim it hurts them more! Brilliant... I was wondering how they would play this... He's learned a lot from dealing w/the porn world! That's not what Cambria is saying. He is saying this hurts Kane more! Somebody didn't like the evidence... Brilliant, now Kane's the victim! Or he's doing his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Or a sympathizer of the alledged victim knew the evidence was weak or cleared him, and wanted to make Kane's side look guilty of tampering. Weak... He could nave raped her with his hand, object, etc... ? There was still the DNA on her shoulder, finger nails, etc... SUPPOSEDLY! Now that is all tainted too! Or he's doing his job. Who? Cambria... Yes... Brilliant. I was wrong about Sedita... How does he let this happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) @HamburgNYPolice Regarding Evidence http://fb.me/1WXtq9rfk Well then why is the evidence bag on the front step of the victims' mom? Is Hamburg just saying they passed the bag over to the DA weeks ago? The bag is a hoax/stunt? How about this for speculation: Kane's side: How about a settlement? Lots of $$$$$$$$$$ Victim side: No, we don't want your money, he needs to go to jail Kane's side: Are you sure? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Victim side: Yes Kane's side: Think about it. It is hard to convict on he said she said and we wouldn't want to drag your name through the mud Vicitm's side: NFW Kane's side: Wait it out a few weeks......are you sure? We have some pretty powerful friends. Victim's side: NFW again "Coincidental" press leak from multiple sources: No evidence in critical areas Kane's side: Want to settle? You never know what evidence they have Vicitim's side: No. Go away. Kane's side: You remember our friends right? You saw that press report right? Vicitm's side: No! And don't call me again. And now there is the evidence bag at the front door. There are 1000 potential stories and that is one. To me, this has to be in the top 5 or so most plausible. Whichever of the 1000 stories is correct....and we will probably never know....it certainly is anything but ordinary. Edited September 23, 2015 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 @markpoloncarz Today, @ErieCountyNY Commissioner of Central Police Services John Glascott issued the following statement: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Weak... He could nave raped her with his hand, object, etc... ? There was still the DNA on her shoulder, finger nails, etc... SUPPOSEDLY! Now that is all tainted too! Of course the presence of DNA does not mean rape or assault. Unless there is evidence of trauma or a fight, there's no way to know if it was consensual or not. Edited September 23, 2015 by PastaJoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Then what gives? A hoax? Edited September 23, 2015 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 @markpoloncarz Today, @ErieCountyNY Commissioner of Central Police Services John Glascott issued the following statement: Now I'm really confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Now I'm really confused. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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