YoloinOhio Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) No surprise there...I felt leading up to the draft that he could be an immediate starter. He struck me as a high-floor guy, though I never felt he'd be an all-pro. Unrelated but Barksdale to Chargers so Fluker to guard presumably and 1000,000,000 yds for Melvin Gordon. Just because we were talking OL. Edited May 19, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Rodent's next article: "Roman's refusal to name EJ the starter hints at his early release from The Bills... perhaps as early as the start of training camp." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 So From What I gather. The O-line will be Glenn-Miller-Wood-Incognito-Henderson. I like it. Just to clarify, five individuals or one individual and an "appendage on the down low" of an MIA musician from the 40s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 "let me make this clear, the Bills are not trading Marshawn Lynch" or something like that... “Buddy Nix is our general manager and will run the football operation much like he has the last three years,” said Brandon. "Buddy Nix is our general manager and will be for a long time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Unrelated but Barksdale to Chargers so Fluker to guard presumably and 1000,000,000 yds for Melvin Gordon. Just because we were talking OL. Long overdue for Fluker to move. He was okay as a rookie, but really regressed last year. Man, that 2013 draft looks really bad for OLmen at the top: 1 - Erik Fisher has been average-at-best for KC at LT 2 - Luke Joeckel can't stay on the field, and has been lousy when he has managed to play 4 - Lane Johnson had a PED suspension and was part of two under-achieving units 7 - Jonathan Cooper has been injured a bunch 10 - Warmack has been underwhelming 11 - Fluker (see above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Joe Buscaglia @JoeBuscaglia 3m3 minutes ago #Bills OC Greg Roman: Honestly, the QB job is anybody's to take. The ball's are out there, it's anybody's for the taking. Joe Buscaglia @JoeBuscaglia 5m5 minutes ago #Bills OC Greg Roman: Ive seen Tyrod Taylor grow as a professional. We are the benefactors of that. Pretty well-rounded player, and, dynamic Roman could very well be throwing that word around a little loosely, but if he means it...that's significant. Mike Rodak @mikerodak 5m5 minutes ago Think the Bills already have enough running backs? Coach Anthony Lynn said today the team could still add another. Lynn is throwing it down. Brown is clearly on notice. Wonder if he shows up tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 “Buddy Nix is our general manager and will run the football operation much like he has the last three years,” said Brandon. "Buddy Nix is our general manager and will be for a long time." Exactly. Those are the common denials that teams always use. They did not say "Nothing could be further from the truth that Buddy Nix will be leaving." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 Long overdue for Fluker to move. He was okay as a rookie, but really regressed last year. Man, that 2013 draft looks really bad for OLmen at the top: 1 - Erik Fisher has been average-at-best for KC at LT 2 - Luke Joeckel can't stay on the field, and has been lousy when he has managed to play 4 - Lane Johnson had a PED suspension and was part of two under-achieving units 7 - Jonathan Cooper has been injured a bunch 10 - Warmack has been underwhelming 11 - Fluker (see above) but according to Marrone, no one really knows how young Joeckel actually is...#obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsgpr88 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 A lot of praise for Miller coming from everyone on the coaching staff. Forget it Jonny, you are out of your element! You have no frame of reference here, Jonny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Exactly. Those are the common denials that teams always use. They did not say "Nothing could be further from the truth that Buddy Nix will be leaving." Really? Brandon saying that Nix will be around for a long time, only to have Nix resign 3 weeks later wasn't a bigger snow job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Exactly. Those are the common denials that teams always use. They did not say "Nothing could be further from the truth that Buddy Nix will be leaving." Hmmm? Retirement or deal with the overinflated ego of St. Doug? F*** it. I'm going back to Tennessee. You got this headache Whaley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Really? Brandon saying that Nix will be around for a long time, only to have Nix resign 3 weeks later wasn't a bigger snow job? Buddy isn't dead, so how can you say Brandon was wrong? “Buddy Nix is our general manager and will run the football operation much like he has the last three years,” said Brandon. "Buddy Nix is our general manager and will be for a long time." Although I'm the last person to believe anything Brandon says publicly, if it is true (as reported) that Buddy really did "surprise" the Bills with his decision to step down then these statements have little value in the current context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Really? Brandon saying that Nix will be around for a long time, only to have Nix resign 3 weeks later wasn't a bigger snow job? I don't trust one word that Brandon ever says so he doesn't count. But I see a clear difference in those two kinds of denials. One, the ones you quoted, is your everyday denial, which an incredible amount of times proves to be just the opposite for all teams in all sports. The other, IMO, the "couldn't be further from the truth" is a carefully worded or specific kind of denial that is stronger, and intended for an additional purpose, whatever that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I don't trust one word that Brandon ever says so he doesn't count. But I see a clear difference in those two kinds of denials. One, the ones you quoted, is your everyday denial, which an incredible amount of times proves to be just the opposite for all teams in all sports. The other, IMO, the "couldn't be further from the truth" is a carefully worded or specific kind of denial that is stronger, and intended for an additional purpose, whatever that is. I don't follow. I think if he said "EJ will be with us for a long time" it would be a stronger statement than saying nothing is further from the truth than rumors that we're planning to cut him in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I don't trust one word that Brandon ever says so he doesn't count. But I see a clear difference in those two kinds of denials. One, the ones you quoted, is your everyday denial, which an incredible amount of times proves to be just the opposite for all teams in all sports. The other, IMO, the "couldn't be further from the truth" is a carefully worded or specific kind of denial that is stronger, and intended for an additional purpose, whatever that is. The problem is that since Roman's full presser hasn't been posted yet, you're parsing second hand twitter posts by the reporters. So you don't know exactly what Roman was referring to when he said "couldn't be further from the truth." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I don't follow. I think if he said "EJ will be with us for a long time" it would be a stronger statement than saying nothing is further from the truth than rumors that we're planning to cut him in camp. That's fine. I don't know. It's just an opinion. I follow this kind of stuff very closely though, and I notice I think when it is different from normal denials. You could be right. I find phrases like "with us a long time" to mean absolutely nothing, since "a long time" could mean months, years, decades... it's nebulous. They could even cut him by training camp and they wouldn't be technically wrong. Saying "nothing could be further from the truth" if indeed they have been discussing it is a flat lie. The problem is that since Roman's full presser hasn't been posted yet, you're parsing second hand twitter posts by the reporters. So you don't know exactly what Roman was referring to when he said "couldn't be further from the truth." True but Vic is pretty careful and a very good, professional reporter. I think he put in the salient point and words. JB is not and is a crap thrower. He left Roman's quote out of his texts because they debunk his article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 So what is the takeaway from Roman's comments in terms of coach speak? That EJ will be cut or traded in camp? That Teul is done. Over. Finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 That Teul is done. Over. Finished. I saw one report that said if you believe the 'whispers' in the organization, EJ is #4 right now behind Tuel, Tyrod, and Cassel! Maybe they'll both be cut before OTAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 That's fine. I don't know. It's just an opinion. I follow this kind of stuff very closely though, and I notice I think when it is different from normal denials. You could be right. I find phrases like "with us a long time" to mean absolutely nothing, since "a long time" could mean months, years, decades... it's nebulous. They could even cut him by training camp and they wouldn't be technically wrong. Saying "nothing could be further from the truth" if indeed they have been discussing it is a flat lie. True but Vic is pretty careful and a very good, professional reporter. I think he put in the salient point and words. JB is not and is a crap thrower. He left Roman's quote out of his texts because they debunk his article. Here are the two salient quotes: Jay Skurski @JaySkurski 2m2 minutes ago Greg Roman says speculation that EJ Manuel has fallen out of favor with the #Bills is the "furthest thing from the truth." Vic Carucci @viccarucci 1m1 minute ago Roman shoots down speculation that EJ Manuel could be cut in training camp if he doesn't show progress. I think there's a world of difference to which question the response was - Was the "furthest thing from the truth" related to EJ falling out of favor or to possibly being tossed from the team if he didn't win the starting job? Not the same thing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Here are the two salient quotes: Jay Skurski @JaySkurski 2m2 minutes ago Greg Roman says speculation that EJ Manuel has fallen out of favor with the #Bills is the "furthest thing from the truth." Vic Carucci @viccarucci 1m1 minute ago Roman shoots down speculation that EJ Manuel could be cut in training camp if he doesn't show progress. I think there's a world of difference to which question the response was - Was the "furthest thing from the truth" related to EJ falling out of favor or to possibly being tossed from the team if he didn't win the starting job? Not the same thing to me. "Speculation is the key word there," Roman said. "I don't believe whoever's saying that, and it's the furthest thing from the truth. He's busting his hump every day and doing a very good job. There's a lot of clay to mold there as well. Whatever people are talking about, I don't know where that's coming from. The answer is no, he's doing a good job." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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