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Not at the table Karlos Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited)   It's not that he doesn't want him, he just doesn't fit his scheme. Rex runs a 3-4 and the ILB's have to be athletic, especially on our team, because our "OLB" are going to be our DE's (Hughes, Mario) and they will want them rushing the passer as much as possible. That leaves coverage responsibilities on the ILB on passing downs. This pic shows Rex's typical defensive front. There are 3 down lineman and the ends are actually OLB's. In this pic, Mario (on the left end) has his hand in the ground which would make the offense think he is rushing. However, it may be a disguise and he might actually be acting as a LB and have responsibilities for passes in the flats. The offense won't know until the ball is snapped. But if he is rushing the passer (which is what we pay Mario to do) then that would leave pass coverage responsibilities to that ILB so you need someone who can cover some ground in case the QB throws a quick swing pass to the flats. Spikes has shown that he can't do that and is an easy target to pick on when he is in the game. If the QB sees Mario rush then that FB or HB can run a pass route vs that LB so you need a LB that is good enough in coverage to be able to take that play away. Bradham is super athletic and Brown is athletic enough. Spikes just is not and would fit much better in a 4-3 where he can just play the middle of the field and not have to chase RB's into the flats there are so many more possibilities than just the MLB to cover the flat. The safety could come up. The corner could have the responsibility. If playing in zone where he(MLB) just basically has to be in front of the RB and tackle him after the catch spikes will be fine. There are ways to scheme around a players weakness. if Harris and Bart Scott fit Rex's scheme than Brandon does just fine. Edited March 27, 2015 by kr632 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Â Â Look no farther than the offensive side of the ball and Fred Jackson. Not the one year, league minimum part but the part time player/heart and soul aspects. He was also with the team for how long to get there? They got to root for him by watching him bust his butt to earn every opportunity and then make the most of each, I'm not saying spikes isn't capable of filling that even as a part time player, it just popped in my head as an interesting dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Spikes would be good to keep if the Bills had enough cap and roster space. Offense is the higher priority at this point to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Spikes will be sitting home until after the draft... But with the injury to Hightower, don't be surprised to see him with the Pats opening day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Spikes will be sitting home until after the draft... But with the injury to Hightower, don't be surprised to see him with the Pats opening day.... Â I think that ship sailed a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Spikes will be sitting home until after the draft... But with the injury to Hightower, don't be surprised to see him with the Pats opening day.... haha people would definitely be surprised. there's no chance of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Â I think that ship sailed a long time ago. agreed. he left on ugly terms and i dont imagine either side is eager to swallow pride and mend the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 @viccarucci: What's left for #Bills in 2nd/3rd phases of FA market? "Maybe get a vet WR," GM Doug Whaley says. "Hopefully get Brandon Spikes back." Â Another WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 @viccarucci: What's left for #Bills in 2nd/3rd phases of FA market? "Maybe get a vet WR," GM Doug Whaley says. "Hopefully get Brandon Spikes back." Â Another WR? That doesn't sound good for Goodwin! Â I do take these "we're all done" comments with a grain of salt however. Hopefully this is Whaley playing it cool and getting FAs, including Spikes, to accept we don't have money budgeted for them as a negotiating tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think a WR is the last thing we need. We only have Harvin for 1 year but you can get another guy in FA next year seeing as how guys like Brandon Marshall can be had for 5th round picks. Â He's probably talking about as backups to add depth but I think Hogan adds depth for Harvin and Woods and maybe they think they need 1 more guy for cheap but I don't think it should be a priority. Goodwin isn't a real WR imo and will probably be cut. I said it when they drafted him and people on here yelled at me. He's a gimmick and he's too small for the NFL (as shown by how he gets hurt every time he gets tackled). He should stick to track and field. Â I think they are hoping Spikes comes back for cheap as he is a good run stuffing presence and another leader on the defensive side. If they want to talk about building a bully then Spikes add that smash mouth type of play to your team for run plays and short yardage situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think a WR is the last thing we need. We only have Harvin for 1 year but you can get another guy in FA next year seeing as how guys like Brandon Marshall can be had for 5th round picks.  He's probably talking about as backups to add depth but I think Hogan adds depth for Harvin and Woods and maybe they think they need 1 more guy for cheap but I don't think it should be a priority. Goodwin isn't a real WR imo and will probably be cut. I said it when they drafted him and people on here yelled at me. He's a gimmick and he's too small for the NFL (as shown by how he gets hurt every time he gets tackled). He should stick to track and field.  I think they are hoping Spikes comes back for cheap as he is a good run stuffing presence and another leader on the defensive side. If they want to talk about building a bully then Spikes add that smash mouth type of play to your team for run plays and short yardage situations  Just to clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Not to take this Spikes thread off on a tangent, but what decent vet Wrs are still available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Not to take this Spikes thread off on a tangent, but what decent vet Wrs are still available?Crabtree, Denarius Moore, Miles austin, Greg Jennings,Hakeem nicks, Nate Washington. Oh, you said decent. I don't know If any of those guys add value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykaykay Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Crabtree, Denarius Moore, Miles austin, Greg Jennings,Hakeem nicks, Nate Washington. Oh, you said decent. I don't know If any of those guys add value. The old guy, Nate, is the best of the lot. Still remember him beating us in the 4th Q -last minute I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think miles Austin might still be at ECMC after busting his kidney at the Ralph in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 @viccarucci: What's left for #Bills in 2nd/3rd phases of FA market? "Maybe get a vet WR," GM Doug Whaley says. "Hopefully get Brandon Spikes back." Another WR? I think they still want the "throw it up to" guy. Brandon Marshall would've been that guy. They need somebody like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think they still want the "throw it up to" guy. Brandon Marshall would've been that guy. They need somebody like that. If that's the case then draft Devin Funchess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureBillsGM Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If that's the case then draft Devin Funchess. Whaley was at the Michigan State Pro Day. I wouldn't be shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If that's the case then draft Devin Funchess.i approve this message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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