John from Riverside Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 LMAO Im sorry...that is all the attention I can give to the OP's post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) I know that it's very early in free agency, but some of the enthusiasm seems to have faded. So far, we're maybe breaking even when comparing last year's team to this years; specifically, - Cassell for Orton - maybe a slight plus McCoy for Kiko - maybe a slight plus - I don't buy the argument that our defense was great last year without him... it's still an elite young talent going out the door - one which would've made our defense even better Incognito for Searcy - wash Kept Hughes - we're supposed to keep our own good players - wash adding Felton - I suppose a plus If we address TE (Clay) and upgrade guard and add a good linebacker, we could probably say we're better than last year from and overall talent perspective. However, none of these have happened yet. Right now, about the same as last year, with no first rounder... From last year they've added McCoy, Felton, Incognito, Cassell They've lost Orton and presumably Spiller. Kiko did not play last year. You already admitted you don't think Orton > Cassell and surely you don't think Spiller > McCoy. So you basically made no sense whatsoever. What do they teach kids in school these days??? Edited March 11, 2015 by BobChalmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Wait, what?! They didn't mention in the introductory pressers that McCoy was going to be moved to LB or that Incognito was being moved to S. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Clarification GreggyT - they were great, but that doesn't make Kiko expendable in my opinion. The graveyards are full of indispensable men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 When assessing the team right now, let's look at the ownership. With all due respect to Ralph, may he rest in peace. He was slipping. Would he have shelled out all this bonus money for restructuring? This is a key in being able to retain and add top flight talent. From the roster to the coaching staff up to ownership, the team is light years ahead of last season. And it only gets better going forward. They aren't going to stop trying to improve this team. Can't wait for training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 My wife left me for my dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I hate this team, FO, coaches, soup, asparagus and Rob Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Lost Lee Smith = DOOOOOOOMED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I feel the OP's pain. We have not won the SuperBowl let alone the AFCE and Free Agency is now 23 hours old. Oh, the humanity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Free agency isn't 24 hours old. I'm still moderately shocked that LeSean McCoy is a Buffalo Bill. That's an unbelievable win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 McCoy>CJ Cassel>Orton Rex>Maroon Roman>canthackett Kiko non factor last year We're way ahead of last year ^This plus -- Incognito > Every 2014 guard Kept Hughes - Excellent Extended Kyle - Excellent Williams and Searcy - Wash Still to come? Would like to keep Easley Sign Clay (would be huge upgrade) Sign Harvin (Clearly a talent but also a head case - can only be positive) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 McCoy>CJ Cassel>Orton Rex>Maroon Roman>canthackett Kiko non factor last year We're way ahead of last year I agree with all this except Cassel is basically Orton. Seriously, they're like the same limited guy who is best served as a backup. But we are better in every other way. ^This plus -- Incognito > Every 2014 guard Kept Hughes - Excellent Extended Kyle - Excellent Williams and Searcy - Wash Still to come? Would like to keep Easley Sign Clay (would be huge upgrade) Sign Harvin (Clearly a talent but also a head case - can only be positive) Incognito was a barely above average G when he last played almost 2 years ago. Let's just wait to say he is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSixburgh Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Here's the biggest plus for the new year and the new regime (with all due respect to St. Ralph). The Bills are relevant and being taken seriously on the national level!! They have a different (i.e. aggressive) approach to making the team better. Unfortunately there isn't much available out there to immediately upgrade the QB position. I love what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Here's the biggest plus for the new year and the new regime (with all due respect to St. Ralph). The Bills are relevant and being taken seriously on the national level!! They have a different (i.e. aggressive) approach to making the team better. Unfortunately there isn't much available out there to immediately upgrade the QB position. I love what they are doing. No offense, I hate when people get worried about the national media. When the Bills start out good, they always get plenty of love. All this offseason stuff doesn't mean crap. Every sportcaster can say the Bills are going to the SB. It doesn't matter. Just win bros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I agree with all this except Cassel is basically Orton. Seriously, they're like the same limited guy who is best served as a backup. But we are better in every other way. Incognito was a barely above average G when he last played almost 2 years ago. Let's just wait to say he is better. And Richie is likely still better than all of them. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 And Richie is likely still better than all of them. :-) I Hope so but right now, I'd put him even with Urbik. Love to be proven wrong. I saw him in Arizona and he needs to put on some weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I know None of us know in March 2015....including Doug & Rex. All you can do is build a plan and try to execute on it. So far, that's what OBD appears to be doing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) OP - put down the beer. You're drunk. You were fine saying Cassel for Orton was a slight gain. Could be a slight loss too, but I would essentially call it a wash. They're pretty much identical journeymen with comparable production over their careers. McCoy and Alonso are not interchangeable. McCoy is the best running back to suit up for this team since Thurman Thomas. His comparable is not Alonso, but CJ Spiller. He's head and shoulders/MILES better than anything Spiller has done. As for Alonso, he had one good year in 2013 and didn't play a down last season. Maybe it's just me, but I think that the Bills defense could be even better than the Bruce Smith era defenses given the changes to rules on contact, etc. Alonso may have made no measurable difference over what Preston Brown was able to contribute. We'll never know, but that's the right comparison. Incognito is without a doubt an upgrade over what we had at his position last year. Would you really say that Urbik and/or Pears were better? His comparable is not a guy filling in at safety in Searcy. Duke Williams may not be quite as good as Searcy, but Searcy didn't have earth shattering production anyway. In terms of Felton, Adrian Peterson ran for almost 2,100 yards running behind him. You "suppose" a plus? I honestly hope that you WERE drunk. This offseason has been insanely good. Anything they do from here would just be gravy. Edited March 11, 2015 by Luxy312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 WE DONT HAVE A FIRST ROUND PICK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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