Nitro Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 The Offensive line, primarily the guards, has made this team hard to watch when they have the ball. Oakland imposed their will and the running game, no matter who ran the ball, was shut down. Orton had happy feet every time he dropped back to pass. Like in many games there was huge stretches where the offense was stagnant. Infusion of talent is needed. If you have a strong line, the offense will improve. Even QBs with erratic throwing tendencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 The line is terrible, but I've seen good QBs do more with much less. Big Ben, Rivers, Rodgers - those guys have had some really bad lines, worse than this one. Orton cannot play football. We need a professional quarterback (and two new guards). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 While Orton had a rough game and the running backs did nothing running the ball the blame will not be placed on the OL. It will be placed on Orton for this INT. It will be placed on all of the mistakes Orton made, again. Â The running game has been awful and the OL has been disastrous. Orton isn't our weakest link or the worst player on the team but he may be our biggest liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 As Marrone is an OL coach, I am really surprised at just how putrid this unit plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 The O Line needs to be improved badly. Â But the QB position is BY FAR the most important in NFL football and we don't have one. Â Ya think that's maybe a bigger problem? Â Does Orton's play improve marginally with a great O line? Probably. Â Is it enough to transform this team's offense? Â No. Â We need a QB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 As Marrone is an OL coach, I am really surprised at just how putrid this unit plays. He called out the line in the post game news conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 For the life of me I will never understand Hackfuk's infatuation with calling screen passes when the line has no linemen capable of pulling and blocking for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Awful.... This team hasn't been able to get it done on the ground all year. While it is a passing league, you are going nowhere if you can't run the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 For the life of me I will never understand Hackfuk's infatuation with calling screen passes when the line has no linemen capable of pulling and blocking for them. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 The Offensive line, primarily the guards, has made this team hard to watch when they have the ball. Oakland imposed their will and the running game, no matter who ran the ball, was shut down. Orton had happy feet every time he dropped back to pass. Like in many games there was huge stretches where the offense was stagnant. Infusion of talent is needed. If you have a strong line, the offense will improve. Even QBs with erratic throwing tendencies. It will be going on three years now that this FO has failed to properly upgrade the line after letting LG Andy Levitre walk, and his backup at OG in Chad Rinehart who has been a solid starter in San Diego since he left. Â Then the Bills offensive scouts have some serious issues when you consider that should the Bills have not been able to trade up for Sammy, they would have drafted Eric Ebron #1, and Cyrus Kounandjio #2. The #7 draft pick at OT is a starter, and the second rounder stinks. if the players drafted were switched, Kouandjio would have been cut long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 He called out the line in the post game news conference. Â Impressive... yawn. Â Seriously: it would've been good to see the line play improve over the course of the season. Never happened though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I think the oline is most of our concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 He called out the line in the post game news conference. With good reason, as he wanted more changes at the OG position in the off season, and was told by the FO that the players he had on the roster were good enough. Â Like I said its going to be three years since Andy Levitre, and still nobody even close to comparable to replace him. FO failure! Offensive scouts Failure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 Impressive... yawn. Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) Ive never seen a line that has absolutely no push---look at our redzone running struggles and are so un-athletic. Watching these guys block in space is like watching 300 lb drunks stagger out of a bar at closing time. Edited December 22, 2014 by billsfan714 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 O line is terrible. Nate Hackett is terrible. Orton is not good. Unwatchable football. I think a better o coordinator could put a few more favorable plays together. Your O line is bad? How about some quick routes to your star WR, that attack the middle of the field? Constantly trying to throw for two yards in the flat to Hogan and Chandler. I just have no explanation for it. Hackett has absolutely no clue what he's doing. Not a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 With good reason, as he wanted more changes at the OG position in the off season, and was told by the FO that the players he had on the roster were good enough. Â Like I said its going to be three years since Andy Levitre, and still nobody even close to comparable to replace him. FO failure! Offensive scouts Failure! Levitre has been average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Levitre has been average. Â Average would be a massive upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 For the life of me I will never understand Hackfuk's infatuation with calling screen passes when the line has no linemen capable of pulling and blocking for them. Â You mean that amazing screen pass when Urbik got out in front to make his block and then fell flat on his face, with his T. Rex arms splayed out in front of himself? That to me summed up this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 Average would be a massive upgrade. You are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 You mean that amazing screen pass when Urbik got out in front to make his block and then fell flat on his face, with his T. Rex arms splayed out in front of himself? That to me summed up this offense. Â Don't forget about the dozen plus times they try running Pears out on the same screen. Pears makes Ubrik look graceful on those pulls in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 How come the OL COACH is never mentioned as a problem? 4 returning lineman, 3 draft picks and a free agent signee, and that was all he could produce in 2 seasons. He should be gone faster than Hackett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDinRTP Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Hackett is the Achilles Heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Don't forget about the dozen plus times they try running Pears out on the same screen. Pears makes Ubrik look graceful on those pulls in comparison. Â Agreed. This Laurel and Hardy guard tandem has got to go... Â What did Marrone say about the o-line in the postgame presser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Hackett Hackfuk is the Achilles Heel. Â Get his name right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 How come the OL COACH is never mentioned as a problem? 4 returning lineman, 3 draft picks and a free agent signee, and that was all he could produce in 2 seasons. He should be gone faster than Hackett. Â He's stealing money. Â Feel better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 We had 13 yards rushing today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 No! When I hear he's gone I might, depending on who the replacement is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 For the life of me I will never understand Hackfuk's infatuation with calling screen passes when the line has no linemen capable of pulling and blocking for them. The receivers are better screen blockers than the guards are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Â Â You mean that amazing screen pass when Urbik got out in front to make his block and then fell flat on his face, with his T. Rex arms splayed out in front of himself? That to me summed up this offense. You're right, that's an image to sum up the entire offensive ineptitude this year. It was truly pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Realist Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Maronne, Hackett, Schwartz, Whaley, Manuel and Orton shouldn't be allowed to live in any state that has a football program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 The guard play this year was terrible, but I am not sure if Henderson or Wood was much better. Better o-line play would have helped with the running game, but neither Orton nor EJ are the answer at QB, and the offense will continue to have problems until we find a quality QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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