IDBillzFan Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/31/news/companies/unitedhealth-obamacare-california/index.html Obama: failure on so many levels. You see a failure. Obama sees everything falling right into place as planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 You see a failure. Obama sees everything falling right into place as planned. Exactly. The fairy tale world he's created in his mind and those of his supporters/enablers will come crashing down like a house of cards the minute he becomes the former POTUS. He's terrified that a Dem won't take over to try to further his "legacy" which includes riding the cluster !@#$ that is Obamacare into the ground and replacing it with single payer. And by single payer, I mean everyone will pay - except those who don't pay income taxes. Witness his stuttering hissy fit the other day when he tried to diss Trump. If a Dem doesn't succeed him, things won't fall into place quite like he imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Heritage FoundationVerified account@Heritage There's no denying it - the Affordable Care Act is anything but. http://dailysign.al/1V2cmAK The "cost curve" bends UP. Not one predicted ACA outcome has come to pass. NOT ONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 The "cost curve" bends UP. Not one predicted ACA outcome has come to pass. NOT ONE. Yes, but if it helps just one person get health insurance, then it's totally worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 The "cost curve" bends UP. Not one predicted ACA outcome has come to pass. NOT ONE. The only truthful part of the Affordable Care Act is that it is nothing more than an Act Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 So does that mean the average family's health care cost won't go down $2500 per year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 So does that mean the average family's health care cost won't go down $2500 per year? Pshaw. They'll be lucky just if their premiums don't go up by double digits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I especially like the part where I had to pay a $3,000 tax this year - not because we don't have health care, but because we earned too much and it's well, "fair." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Blue Cross Blue Shield pulling out of Minnesota individual insurance market due to huge losses on ObamaCare. That means it is working...........right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Blue Cross Blue Shield pulling out of Minnesota individual insurance market due to huge losses on ObamaCare. That means it is working...........right ? For people, no. As intended, YES!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) It's unfortunate to say this, but the only good thing about Obamacare is that the left completely and exclusive owns it. It will haunt them for at least a generation, by which time they'll have been able to change the history books to refer to it as a bipartisan bill originally referred to as Romneycare. Edited June 24, 2016 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 The Republicans released their replacement plan for ObamaCare on June 22................good thing the media was all over i.............right? Republicans Have a Shot at Replacing ObamacareFTA: So if the Republicans want to get rid of Obamacare, they have to actually come up with something that can semi-plausibly be presented as a replacement. Over the last few years, they’ve settled on a bunch of pieces that make up the cornerstone of their approach: Limiting the tax subsidy for employer-sponsored health insurance; Selling health insurance across state lines; Tort reform; Tax-advantaged health savings accounts; Flat (though age-rated) refundable tax credits for purchasing health insurance; Allowing insurers more flexibility to charge different prices by age group; Getting rid of the mandates (individual and employer), community rating, and guaranteed issue, as well as a lot of the regulatory mandates for benefit levels; Guaranteeing renewal and portability -- which is to say, if you had insurance, and you get sick, you can still buy insurance at normal rates, not rates that are risk-rated for your illness; High-risk pools for people who didn’t have insurance when they got sick, but now want to buy it; Block granting Medicaid for states who want it. These things form the core of the new Republican plan released Wednesday. Though “new” is kind of a strong word; most of this stuff has been around for a while. Some of these proposals are good ideas, like relaxing the mandated benefits -- which had sounded great at first, until you realized that every one of those benefits needs to be paid for in the form of higher premiums -- and breaking some of the links between employment and insurance. Some of them, like replacing the “Cadillac tax” on high-cost plans with a cap on the tax subsidies for employer-sponsored health insurance, represent a regression from what Obamacare achieved. (While I’d prefer a cap to the unwieldy and opaque Cadillac tax, the Republican plan seems to set the cap too high, meaning it will do less than the Cadillac tax does to move America away from this ridiculous tax boondoggle). More at the link: Something I think is especially attractive is this: “Getting rid of…a lot of the regulatory mandates for benefit levels.” Obamacare took away the option of buying catastrophic insurance, for example, something people with good health often have found to be a very good deal and should be allowed to select, IMHO.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 It's unfortunate to say this, but the only good thing about Obamacare is that the left completely and exclusive owns it. It will haunt them for at least a generation, by which time they'll have been able to change the history books to refer to it as a bipartisan bill originally referred to as Romneycare. The media has already blamed the failures of Obamacare on Republicans, because they say the provisions that would have made it work were blocked by the right. Liberals believe that Obama was forced to compromise on his vision of single payer to appease conservatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 The media has already blamed the failures of Obamacare on Republicans, because they say the provisions that would have made it work were blocked by the right. Liberals believe that Obama was forced to compromise on his vision of single payer to appease conservatives. Democrats had controls of the White House and Congress. The only way that makes sense is if they're relabeling moderate Democrats as "Republicans." Which is pretty much what they are doing, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Democrats had controls of the White House and Congress. The only way that makes sense is if they're relabeling moderate Democrats as "Republicans." Which is pretty much what they are doing, of course. I've already had that argument. A liberal coworker said that the ACA was proof that Obama was a conservative, because if he had been a liberal, they would have passed single-payer with total control of government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 I've already had that argument. A liberal coworker said that the ACA was proof that Obama was a conservative, because if he had been a liberal, they would have passed single-payer with total control of government. I hope that you responded with uncontrollable derisive laughter, thats all that 'reasoning' deserved. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 I've already had that argument. A liberal coworker said that the ACA was proof that Obama was a conservative, because if he had been a liberal, they would have passed single-payer with total control of government. You work with Lybob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Insurers Try to Sue Their Way Free of Faustian Bargain by David Catron Original Article ObamaCare Is Killing The Blues Original Article Suing Their Way Out of Obamacare Failure by Doug Badger Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437214/obamacare-lawsuits-insurers-losing-billions-suing-bailouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Insurers Try to Sue Their Way Free of Faustian Bargain by David Catron Original Article ObamaCare Is Killing The Blues Original Article Suing Their Way Out of Obamacare Failure by Doug Badger Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437214/obamacare-lawsuits-insurers-losing-billions-suing-bailouts If only someone could have predicted this in 2009 and warned people about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 If only someone could have predicted this in 2009 and warned people about it. But how could any of this be foreseen? We couldn't even know what was in the bill without passing it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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