8-8 Forever? Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Atlanta season ended by wipe out of their O Line; Packers' season crippled by Rodgers injury. When it comes to key positions groups or QB, injuries in key groups simply kill seasons. The "next man up" idea is garbage at key positions. The drop off is too great when you lose your o line or the QB. Packers get 3 early turnovers today and cannot do crap with a back up QB. comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Matt Flynn : 10 of 20 139 yards 1 int. 'nough said . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 "What would you have me do....my mens courage holds by a thread.....if this is our end then I would have them make such an end as to be worthy of remembrence" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Not sure how any of that renders the next man up theory meaningless. Teams have no choice but 'next man up' when a starter goes down. If the 'next man up' can't get it done, then it's on to the 'next man up.' And so on. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 There's no such thing as a 'next man up' if you're talking about Aaron Rogers or Drew Brees or Tom Brady or someone of that caliber. Guys like that carry their teams....they go down and you see just how much the rest of the cast falls apart. In the case of the Packers, it's a little shocking since it wasn't that long ago they were SB favorites. But they are a far cry from their teams of a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 As always, it's not a black and white issue. It's dependent on positional depth, personel packages, coaching, buy in to a "team first" philosophy, and if the effected unit was built around the skill set of a single irreplaceable player or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 The Bills have done fairly well with the next man up this season. When Gilmore went down, guys like McKelvin, Williams and even Robey have surprised us. When Stevie and Woods went down, last week our other receivers came through. Even Thad Lewis impressed. I wouldn't say next man up equals garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Atlanta season ended by wipe out of their O Line; Packers' season crippled by Rodgers injury. When it comes to key positions groups or QB, injuries in key groups simply kill seasons. The "next man up" idea is garbage at key positions. The drop off is too great when you lose your o line or the QB. Packers get 3 early turnovers today and cannot do crap with a back up QB. comment. So what's the coach supposed to say? "Well guys, our seasons screwed, looks like we will all be playing golf in January..." It's obvious they don't really believe there is not going to be some drop off, but its not like that makes any difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I guess not every team has decent back ups at every position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 It's this season's catch phrase. Injuries make a huge difference, and to act like a team can have great depth at any and every position is just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I guess not every team has decent back ups at every position. How could the Packers be so incompetent? To go into the season like this? It's a disgrace yada yada yada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 (edited) Matt Flynn : 10 of 20 139 yards 1 int. 'nough said . With a healthy EJ, we win the Cleveland game, with a healthy EJ or freakin TL, we win the KC game. Anyone can see that. 5-4 and they are in ahead in the wild card race, QBs go down and we go 1 and 4, with them I truly believe 3 - 2. At key positions or position groups, big injuries end playoff runs. "Next man up"….. what a bunch of garbage. Edited November 29, 2013 by 8and8Forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billshank Redemption Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 With a healthy EJ, we win the Cleveland game, with a healthy EJ or freakin TL, we win the KC game. Anyone can see that. 5-4 and they are in ahead in the wild card race, QBs go down and we go 1 and 4, with them I truly believe 3 - 2. At key positions or position groups, big injuries end playoff runs. "Next man up"….. what a bunch of garbage. Agreed this was our year to finally make it which is what really sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 (edited) So the answer is obvious......make sure that the drop off in talent between your starters and your backups is minimal. Unfortunately the only way to do that in the cap era is to have mediocre starters.....but it wasn't a problem for the Bills for many years, so we know it is doable. Edited November 29, 2013 by Dibs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 The Bills have done fairly well with the next man up this season. When Gilmore went down, guys like McKelvin, Williams and even Robey have surprised us. When Stevie and Woods went down, last week our other receivers came through. Even Thad Lewis impressed. I wouldn't say next man up equals garbage. I was only thinking of Thad while reading but all your other points are even better. Even Leonhard did a decent job when Byrd was out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I guess not every team has decent back ups at every position. Blasphamy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Atlanta season ended by wipe out of their O Line; Packers' season crippled by Rodgers injury. When it comes to key positions groups or QB, injuries in key groups simply kill seasons. The "next man up" idea is garbage at key positions. The drop off is too great when you lose your o line or the QB. Packers get 3 early turnovers today and cannot do crap with a back up QB. comment. Unless of course your talking Patriots football !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Matt Flynn : 10 of 20 139 yards 1 int. 'nough said . Can't believe we cut that guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Next man up seems to work better in college than the pros............Might have something to do with carrying about 6-7 quarterbacks and 90 players on the team. And, the talent difference I'm sure is not as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 When it comes to key positions groups or QB, injuries in key groups simply kill seasons. Earl Morel, Jeff Hostettler, and Kurt Warner would disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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