Joe Miner Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 .Dareus is closer to being out-of-the-league than he is to being an All Pro...Not that I think he's going to be out of the league soon or anything like that...But he's no where near an All Pro...Not even close... Well, thanks for at least totally invalidating your opinion with a ridiculous comment like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 He's been getting less reps than TJax and Kolb all of OTAs. It's pretty likely he'll be a backup QB to start the season unless he does amazing in training camp/pre-season. I think you are right about EJ starting as the backup. As far as the reps now, not a concern. It makes sense for Marone to get long looks at TJ and Kolb vs. EJ, who is definitely going to make the team, and needs to work on fundamentals more than the other two. Either TJ or Kolb likely will not make the team, so the more they can compete now the better. Well, thanks for at least totally invalidating your opinion with a ridiculous comment like that. I do not find this ridiculous at all. Dareus showed promise as a rookie, was clearly much heavier and very ineffective last year, and looks even heavier now. This is a make or break season for him IMO. Either he starts to dominate, or the bust label will be more and more appropriate. It seems to me this kid has motivational issues. Perhaps he can be turned around, but I totally agree he is closer to being out of the league than being an all-pro right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I agree with KOK 100%, but the only thing that sucks about all this is Branch has also been much better in the NFL as a 3-4 DE than a NT, so someone will end up playing a less effective position a good amount of the time. I am praying Troup finally stays healthy and develops into a solid NT........and yes, I know that is rolling the dice to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Do people realize that there are more than 2 types of NFL players? There's more than Pro Bowler and bust. Relax. No one knows anything about this kid or what the Bills are or are not asking him to do. Did he play great last season? No. But he was far from the biggest problem on the D. I'd be hard pressed to say anyone on the D played "great". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) Dareus is a great fit for the 4-3 nose tackle, which actually plays off the nose and attacks the gap between center and guard. Like the wildly successful 49ers and Ravens defenses, I expect Pettine to field a defense that looks like a 3-4 but functions like a 4-3. This gives us the opportunity to be deceptive like a 3-4 but also allows Dareus, KW, Anderson and Carrington to do what they do best-- attack, penetrate, and make plays, rather than staying at the line of scrimmage and reacting to the offense. Pettine has said he wants to be aggressive and dictate to the offense; I doubt he'll play a true 3-4 a majority of the time, as that would mean his athletic DL is holding the line and reacting rather than attacking. Especially when we don't have a real 3-4 nose tackle. This isn't a comment on the weight issue, just saying Dareus at "nose tackle" makes sense IMO. Edited May 29, 2013 by J-Gun Boone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 If it's not too outrageous to think EJ sits starting the season, is it too farfetched to think that he starts? I understand that he has a lot to work on, but with a solid camp and the NFL moving towards starting rookies immediately, how likely is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I think you are right about EJ starting as the backup. As far as the reps now, not a concern. It makes sense for Marone to get long looks at TJ and Kolb vs. EJ, who is definitely going to make the team, and needs to work on fundamentals more than the other two. Either TJ or Kolb likely will not make the team, so the more they can compete now the better. Indeed. I think they expect EJ to be around long term, so might as well see who's the better of TJax and Kolb, then let EJ come in when he's ready. I, personally, would like to see EJ just start at the season, but logically, I think what they are doing makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 @ChrisBrownBills Wed. OTA practice notes up - Installation almost done, Welch tries guard, Silva moves up. http://ow.ly/lw77U #Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 @ChrisBrownBills Woods on ESPN's NFL Live http://wp.me/plmrg-85T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Dareus is a great fit for the 4-3 nose tackle, which actually plays off the nose and attacks the gap between center and guard. Like the wildly successful 49ers and Ravens defenses, I expect Pettine to field a defense that looks like a 3-4 but functions like a 4-3. This gives us the opportunity to be deceptive like a 3-4 but also allows Dareus, KW, Anderson and Carrington to do what they do best-- attack, penetrate, and make plays, rather than staying at the line of scrimmage and reacting to the offense. Pettine has said he wants to be aggressive and dictate to the offense; I doubt he'll play a true 3-4 a majority of the time, as that would mean his athletic DL is holding the line and reacting rather than attacking. Especially when we don't have a real 3-4 nose tackle. This isn't a comment on the weight issue, just saying Dareus at "nose tackle" makes sense IMO. This does seem to make a lot of sense, especially if the focus is going to have both Darues and Kyle Williams charging the 1-gap areas. If Carrington can be a solid DE (which seems to have a lot of promise for him in these OTA's) It looks like we can get decent pressure rushing the gaps. When you add on Mario and Anderson rushing from the LB spots, we might actually get a pass rush this year. Indeed. I think they expect EJ to be around long term, so might as well see who's the better of TJax and Kolb, then let EJ come in when he's ready. I, personally, would like to see EJ just start at the season, but logically, I think what they are doing makes sense. That does seem to be the case. In spite of my "I only want EJ when he's ready" mantra, I think everyone was kind of hoping that he would be ready to take the first snap this year. But what I care about more than having a playoff run this year, would be having another period of dominance like we had in the 80's and 90's and that the Patriots have had for the last decade. If waiting gives us that, I'm willing to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipers Hair Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 2013 - Darius = Pro Bowl, CJ = Pro Bowl & All Pro, Mario = Pro Bowl & All Pro, Jarius Byrd = Pro Bowl, Stevie Johnson = Pro Bowl, Kiko Alonso = Def ROY, and a lot of love will be shown to Stephon Gilmour...no pro bowl though....So it is written Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 If it's not too outrageous to think EJ sits starting the season, is it too farfetched to think that he starts? I understand that he has a lot to work on, but with a solid camp and the NFL moving towards starting rookies immediately, how likely is this? I say start him. It's year one of a new regime and he'll eventually be the starter anyway. Get the future going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 LOL at all of you interpreting the rotation of OTA QB reps as any indication of who will be the Bills' starting QB on September 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 2013 - Darius = Pro Bowl, CJ = Pro Bowl & All Pro, Mario = Pro Bowl & All Pro, Jarius Byrd = Pro Bowl, Stevie Johnson = Pro Bowl, Kiko Alonso = Def ROY, and a lot of love will be shown to Stephon Gilmour...no pro bowl though....So it is written Then so it shall be. Who will Byrd be representing ? Bills i sure hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Well, thanks for at least totally invalidating your opinion with a ridiculous comment like that. What is ridiculous about it? You think he's closer to being an All Pro? Maybe I went to far by saying he's closer to being out of the league...But he's light years away from being an All Pro...Far, far away... No one knows anything about this kid or what the Bills are or are not asking him to do. You really think The Bills are asking him to come in 22-30 lbs heavier than he was at his Combine? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 RoundUp: http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Bills-Roundup-Wed-Highlights-OTA-Progress/a1a51d44-f75f-4e21-bda0-4a5417e8bc21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Did anyone hear Mario talking up Kiko Alonso on the John Murphy Show? Sounded genuine and very encouraging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Did anyone hear Mario talking up Kiko Alonso on the John Murphy Show? Sounded genuine and very encouraging Watching the Bills Roundup, Tarvaris Jackson had some nice things to say about KA as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Tell me what the Bills' coaches and trainers have told him concerning his body weight. I'll wait while you admit you don't know and are making assumptions. He didn't have an all pro year and people jump on the easiest thing they can see as the reason why. If you think the he's closer to being out of the league than an all pro, tell me which of those scenarios is more likely at the end of this year? Barring some kind of mental breakdown, injury, or crime spree, there is no way he plays his way out of the league by the end of the year. On the other hand, he does at least have the talent to be an all pro. But doubtful either one of your poorly thought out options happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Did anyone hear Mario talking up Kiko Alonso on the John Murphy Show? Sounded genuine and very encouraging Watching the Bills Roundup, Tarvaris Jackson had some nice things to say about KA as well. Combine this with Pettine's comments to Murph the other night, and you have to think where there's smoke, there's fire. Alonso is going to be off and running with this defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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