BADOLBILZ Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I know its only the second day of practice with the rookies but a lot of people on offense seem to be making a lot of plays like Marquise Goodwin, Robert Woods and Even Brandon Kaufman has been mentioned making plays. Rogers was reported as having an up and down day yesterday as he couldn't seem to get down some change of direction drills and dropped a few balls and then today not a single mention of him doing anything. If he is that talented to where a lot of teams even said he was a first or second round talent why is he having so much trouble early on when everyone else seems to be grasping things just fine. Again I know its early hut just saying It would be nice to hear about him making plays because he has the actual physical skillset you want in your top receiver. Stevie is a posession receiver at this point, he isn't going to make plays downfield with any regularity. Woods is a solid all-around receiver but I don't think he initially presents matchup problems for good cornerbacks. Goodwin is Roscoe Parrish until proven otherwise. Rogers has the potential to make plays all over the field and get over the top because of his size/speed combination. You can only line up so many receivers and you would hope you have one of those guys. So yeah, I understand your concern. Kauffman looks good, maybe he can be the surprise out of this group. As for all these other responders......don't take it personal. Despite what they say about not being concerned, my experience is that they are just getting some extra winks to replace all the sleep they are going to lose over this team once training camp ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I am extremely concerned about the undrafted free agent on the second day he has practiced; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 It would be nice to hear about him making plays because he has the actual physical skillset you want in your top receiver. Stevie is a posession receiver at this point, he isn't going to make plays downfield with any regularity. Woods is a solid all-around receiver but I don't think he initially presents matchup problems for good cornerbacks. Goodwin is Roscoe Parrish until proven otherwise. Rogers has the potential to make plays all over the field and get over the top because of his size/speed combination. You can only line up so many receivers and you would hope you have one of those guys. So yeah, I understand your concern. Kauffman looks good, maybe he can be the surprise out of this group. As for all these other responders......don't take it personal. Despite what they say about not being concerned, my experience is that they are just getting some extra winks to replace all the sleep they are going to lose over this team once training camp ends. This part about Woods is most likely wrong. And Goodwin is Goodwin until proven otherwise. Kaufman and Rogers are facing long odds at making the team because they were both undrafted. Kaufman has made some plays, but Rogers has not. What does that mean? No one knows until they start playing real games in September, but the more plays Rogers makes, the more looks he's going to get so it might be best to start making them now, or at least in OTAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I hope rogers makes it, but I'll lose ZERO sleep if he's cut... We've got too many other guys that look sharp. there is a reason a guy who was to be a no 1 pick does not get picked at all. this guy probably won't make it so start preparing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 The only thing that bothers me about Rogers is that he said he is playing with a chip on his shoulder. That chip has already put him on the edge of ending up as another fool who had the gifts to play but ended up a terminal loser. Being humble is what the idiot needs to learn or he will remain an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I think the author of this thread was doing his best Kevin Bacon Imitation from Animal House. REMAIN CALM. ALL IS WELL! Hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 This part about Woods is most likely wrong. And Goodwin is Goodwin until proven otherwise. Kaufman and Rogers are facing long odds at making the team because they were both undrafted. Kaufman has made some plays, but Rogers has not. What does that mean? No one knows until they start playing real games in September, but the more plays Rogers makes, the more looks he's going to get so it might be best to start making them now, or at least in OTAs. Woods isn't big and he isn't exceptionally fast and that's why he wasn't a first round pick. It's a matchup league and he is not a physical matchup that teams are going to fear. The key to his game IMO will be his route running and ability to make plays on contested throws. And you are right, Goodwin is not in Roscoe Parrish's class until he proves it. Parrish was a much more accomplished receiver in college. Still, they are both very small targets and that makes it hard to find them downfield. Goodwin's game has been described as straight-linish and that doesn't sound like a guy who will make big plays out of the slot. Roscoe could make plays in traffic he just had the bone structure of a debutante so he couldn't make a living in there. The Goodwin pick was all about speed and the hope that the player had A LOT of room for improvement because 30 grabs per year is lousy production to say the least. Hopefully they find a way to use his speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted William's frozen head Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) It would be nice to hear about him making plays because he has the actual physical skillset you want in your top receiver. Stevie is a posession receiver at this point, he isn't going to make plays downfield with any regularity. Woods is a solid all-around receiver but I don't think he initially presents matchup problems for good cornerbacks. Goodwin is Roscoe Parrish until proven otherwise. Rogers has the potential to make plays all over the field and get over the top because of his size/speed combination. You can only line up so many receivers and you would hope you have one of those guys. So yeah, I understand your concern. Kauffman looks good, maybe he can be the surprise out of this group. As for all these other responders......don't take it personal. Despite what they say about not being concerned, my experience is that they are just getting some extra winks to replace all the sleep they are going to lose over this team once training camp ends. Rogers may very well 'blow himself up', but I predict he will be starting opening day against the Pats * Edited May 12, 2013 by Ted William's frozen head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills1960 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 How can you be worried about an undrafted free agent? If he steps up he steps up, if he doesnt he doesnt. You only have the right to worry about Woods and Goodwin, and they haven't given any reason to yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 The only thing that bothers me about Rogers is that he said he is playing with a chip on his shoulder. That chip has already put him on the edge of ending up as another fool who had the gifts to play but ended up a terminal loser. Being humble is what the idiot needs to learn or he will remain an idiot. Chips can be good too...Tom Brady still has one the size of Everest...Thurman had a pretty good sized one...It all depends on the individual and what they do with it...Chips can cause some serious positive motivation with the right mindset... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Graybeard, my good man, BRAVO! Good show! AI's practice rant is right up there with "Got dat WOOOOD" on YE OLE's Greatest Hits list: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 It would be nice to hear about him making plays because he has the actual physical skillset you want in your top receiver. Stevie is a posession receiver at this point, he isn't going to make plays downfield with any regularity. Woods is a solid all-around receiver but I don't think he initially presents matchup problems for good cornerbacks. Goodwin is Roscoe Parrish until proven otherwise. Rogers has the potential to make plays all over the field and get over the top because of his size/speed combination. You can only line up so many receivers and you would hope you have one of those guys. So yeah, I understand your concern. Kauffman looks good, maybe he can be the surprise out of this group. As for all these other responders......don't take it personal. Despite what they say about not being concerned, my experience is that they are just getting some extra winks to replace all the sleep they are going to lose over this team once training camp ends. Well, we had one criminal named "Darick" (Holmes) who I personally thought was pretty good. Maybe we will get some results from Da'Rick as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Well, we had one criminal named "Darick" (Holmes) who I personally thought was pretty good. Maybe we will get some results from Da'Rick as well. Darrick was very under appreciated on this team. He and Gabe Northern are two of my favorite Bills from the twilight of the 90's years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Woods isn't big and he isn't exceptionally fast and that's why he wasn't a first round pick. It's a matchup league and he is not a physical matchup that teams are going to fear. The key to his game IMO will be his route running and ability to make plays on contested throws. And you are right, Goodwin is not in Roscoe Parrish's class until he proves it. Parrish was a much more accomplished receiver in college. Still, they are both very small targets and that makes it hard to find them downfield. Goodwin's game has been described as straight-linish and that doesn't sound like a guy who will make big plays out of the slot. Roscoe could make plays in traffic he just had the bone structure of a debutante so he couldn't make a living in there. The Goodwin pick was all about speed and the hope that the player had A LOT of room for improvement because 30 grabs per year is lousy production to say the least. Hopefully they find a way to use his speed. I'm not sure what you consider exceptionally fast, but Woods' official time at the Combine was 4.42, and he ran as fast as 4.37. That's plenty of speed and much faster than 1st rounder DeAndre Hopkins, while he was far more productive than 1st rounder Cordarrelle Patterson. His speed in combination with route-running should make him a problem for even good NFL CB's. Parrish was marginally more productive than Goodwin in college. His problem, as you mentioned, in the pros was durability, which admittedly is also potentially a problem for Goodwin. But at the Combine, Parrish measured-in at 5'10" and 170# while Goodwin was 5'9" and 183#, and that can be a significant difference in terms of durability (Parrish has added 5# since the Combine, and Goodwin should be able to add at least that much). But I don't see Goodwin making his living going across the middle because that's a recipe for injury. I can see him playing on the outside and being a guy to take the lid off the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I am worried about... 1. Is it going to rain when I make my hay or will I finally get clear skies for a week or two? 2. How can I get more eggs on Simpsons Tapped Out... 4,500 more eggs in a week!? 3. I hope my parents stay in Ohio for another month. 4...5...6...7... 119. I wonder if they will ever bring back the show King Of The Hill? .... 204. Taylor Swift .... 312. That rash I have .... 567. Is there a heaven or hell? ... 789. What kind of pancakes my girlfriend is going to make me in the morning. ... 10048. Da'Rick Rogers having a bad pracitce 10049. Kim Kardashians new baby 10050. Global Warming 1051. Canada Wait, something is wrong with Taylor Swift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Wait, something is wrong with Taylor Swift? Enquiring minds want to know here. Unless she's "never never ever" getting back together with jboyst, or he's worried about what kind of pancakes she'll make him. When I first read this thread title I thought it was gonna be about Da'Rick's prior bad habits that got him booted from 1st round prospect to UDFA, and perhaps he'd been spotted cultivating bad company in B'lo. Worrying about a UDFA in rookie minicamp? Seriously? C'mon man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Enquiring minds want to know here. Unless she's "never never ever" getting back together with jboyst, or he's worried about what kind of pancakes she'll make him. When I first read this thread title I thought it was gonna be about Da'Rick's prior bad habits that got him booted from 1st round prospect to UDFA, and perhaps he'd been spotted cultivating bad company in B'lo. Worrying about a UDFA in rookie minicamp? Seriously? C'mon man. Sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I worry about Rogers far more than Taylor Swift. I don't buy her facade and figure there's a reason why she can't stay with a guy for long, and when they break up, feels the need to write a nasty song about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I worry about Rogers far more than Taylor Swift. I don't buy her facade and figure there's a reason why she can't stay with a guy for long, and when they break up, feels the need to write a nasty song about him. Which is why you should be a bit more concerned about Taylor than Rogers. Where is your sensitivity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Which is why you should be a bit more concerned about Taylor than Rogers. Where is your sensitivity? I'd worry more about Swift if she dated Rogers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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