Virgil Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Yes but does it now force the Raiders to draft Geno? No, it forces them to pull the trigger on the Flynn trade. Which is good for our Geno chances (if you wanted him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Kolb is not the answer. He has failed with two organizations. Who was the last QB to do that and then turn out to be a top player? It doesn't happen. And the Bills already have a stop gap veteran in Jackson so what's the point of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Truth Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Wow, at least they're trying at QB. Kolb was a hit commodity not too long ago. The man must have been concussed a million times last year with that Arizona O-Line. Who knows if he has all his faculties still. I like that we're trying at QB though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I'm not excited by the move, but it gives them the option of not drafting a rookie. Not saying they won't or shouldn't, but it gives other teams something to think about and doesn't force the Bills into making a poor pick out of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 Kolb is not the answer. He has failed with two organizations. Who was the last QB to do that and then turn out to be a top player? It doesn't happen. And the Bills already have a stop gap veteran in Jackson so what's the point of this? Either Kolb or TJax will be on the roster. Can't see both making it to week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 This is already in the other Kolb thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I'm not excited by the move, but it gives them the option of not drafting a rookie. Not saying they won't or shouldn't, but it gives other teams something to think about and doesn't force the Bills into making a poor pick out of need. Good point Jeremy. This is a good strategic move which pragmatically strengthens the position, at the same time creating uncertainty about what the Bills will do in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 No, it forces them to pull the trigger on the Flynn trade. Which is good for our Geno chances (if you wanted him) But Flynn is refusing to restructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Kolb is not the answer. He has failed with two organizations. Who was the last QB to do that and then turn out to be a top player? It doesn't happen. And the Bills already have a stop gap veteran in Jackson so what's the point of this? I'm not big on Kolb, but saying he 'failed' at Philadelphia is a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) Does this take Kolb away from Oakland and force Oakland to draft Geno? That is my concern. Wasn't Oakland going for Flynn? This is a pretty "meh" move to me. I guess it gives them a quality backup, but I still want them to draft a QB in R1-2. And the concussions are a real concern. Edited March 30, 2013 by RuntheDamnBall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) Well I didn't really see the point in the Bills picking up another veteran QB because it could impede the development of the rookie QB-of-the-future but this is probably a sound signing. Signing Kolb didn't cost the team any draft picks and the guy has some credentials and is probably an upgrade over TJax. I really preferred to go all-in with the rookie QB but bottom line, our QB situation as a result of this signing is more solid than it was. Pretty much this. So this doesn't cost us any draft picks then ? If true then yes, I'd say a pretty solid FA signing. Thanx. EDIT: But we still need to draft a QB ....................I think?. jb Edited March 30, 2013 by jaybee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Either Kolb or TJax will be on the roster. Can't see both making it to week 1. Can't afford a QB competition between two no-future veterans with a rookie who needs reps and attention in training camp and preseason sitting on the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Wasn't Oakland going for Flynn? This is a pretty "meh" move to me. I guess it gives them a quality backup, but I still want them to draft a QB in R1-2. Yes but apparently they can't afford Flynn unless he restructures and he is resisting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I've got no problem with this as long as we're still planning to draft one in rounds 1-3. I'm interested to see this guy behind a good line, accompanied by a good running game. Hopefully we'll figure LG out and we'll have those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) @ChrisBrownBills Reports: QB Kolb to be cut, Jets interested http://wp.me/plmrg-7FT @AdamSchefter 7m Bills and former Cardinals QB Kevin Kolb finalizing a deal tonight that will give Buffalo one more starting-caliber QB. Does this sound like desperation to anyone else? They cut a mediocre Fitzpatrick for a mediocre Kolb? What a franchise! Edited March 30, 2013 by Billsguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Either Kolb or TJax will be on the roster. Can't see both making it to week 1. They'll both have guarantees for at least the season. Not much incentive to cut them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 30, 2013 Author Share Posted March 30, 2013 I'm not big on Kolb, but saying he 'failed' at Philadelphia is a bit much. Kolb had zero chance behind that awful Cardinal Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocwocka Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Looks like he's coming to Buffalo for sure... http://tracking.si.com/2013/03/30/bills-finalizing-deal-kevin-kolb/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I'm fine with this. Sign Kolb, see how the picks roll in the Draft. If the guys who are left for the Bills to pick in the first and second round aren't who they want, they wont be totally left out in the cold now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Yes but apparently they can't afford Flynn unless he restructures and he is resisting. ... which is smart, to a point. If he gets cut he gets free rein, or if Seattle has to keep him he is one rough play away from starting for a SB contender. Starting is nice in the NFL, but so is making a sh-- ton of money to be on a Super Bowl-worthy roster, whether you play or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Does this sound like desperation to anyone else? The cut a mediocre Fitzpatrick for a mediocre Kolb? What a franchise! I said it in the other thread and I'll repeat it here. It seems like a move to not force them into a corner. As it stood, everybody and their mother knew the Bills were taking a QB. Maybe the Raiders wanted to trade back, but it seemed certain the Bills were taking a QB. Now it's not so certain. Maybe the Raiders trade back and Bills take a QB. Maybe they don't like the 1st round on any QB, but the risk of waiting until the 2nd with only tjax on the roster was too much. I see it as a move opening them up to options. Which mitigates my...distaste..for Kolb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Kolb had zero chance behind that awful Cardinal Line. And yet, Kolb completed 59 percent of his passes for 1,169 yards with eight touchdowns and three interceptions in an injury-plagued 2012 season. It was only two seasons ago that Arizona sent a 2nd round pick and a quality starting cornerback to Philly for Kolb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t317 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Kolb had zero chance behind that awful Cardinal Line. Kolb had zero chance behind that awful Cardinal Line. This for sure. If he comes in, and does a bang up job and wins games, who will complain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Does this sound like desperation to anyone else? They cut a mediocre Fitzpatrick for a mediocre Kolb? What a franchise! No. It sounds like a very sound move to me. After seeing everything Fitz had to "offer," I'd much rather move on to a different player who may have more to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Anyone think he looks like Doug Flutie's skeevy grown-up clone in this photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 There is zero doubt in my mind the Bills are still going to take a QB within the first three rounds. Zero. All this does is allow them a little flexibility and doesn't pigeon hole them into a first round QB who they may not necessarily be in love with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 https://twitter.com/...me=AdamSchefter Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter Bills and former Cardinals QB Kevin Kolb finalizing a deal tonight that will give Buffalo one more starting-caliber QB. 9 minutes ago Which almost for sure means we are out for Geno Smith, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Kolb knows the West Coast playbook and made plays downfield for the Eagles. In a run-centric West Coast attack he might play well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 This for sure. If he comes in, and does a bang up job and wins games, who will complain? Who was the last 7 year vet QB who bounced to his third team and went from mediocre to a star? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 The only thing I want Kolb (or Jackson or rookie QB) to master is the "hand the ball off to Spiller" play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Who was the last 7 year vet QB who bounced to his third team and went from mediocre to a star? Rich Gannon may or may not have been one, but his is still a situation that screams "outlier." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t317 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Who was the last 7 year vet QB who bounced to his third team and went from mediocre to a star? I never said he would...I just said, if he does good, who will complain? Whats the harm in giving him a shot at this point? Have the bills bottomoed out? when the bills take a qb in this draft, at least now, there are some options so you don't have to throw him to the wolves in week one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) Kolb was the last little bit of leverage the Raiders had with both Carson Palmer and Matt Flynn/Seahawks. Kolb signing with Buffalo puts the Raiders in a bad position as I bet Kolb's camp was talking with the Raiders too. Edited March 30, 2013 by San Jose Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 The only thing I want Kolb (or Jackson or rookie QB) to master is the "hand the ball off to Spiller" play. If only the modern NFL worked that way. The Vikings had a running back with one of the top seasons in NFL history and barely made the playoffs, and were eliminated in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 If only the modern NFL worked that way. The Vikings had a running back with one of the top seasons in NFL history and barely made the playoffs, and were eliminated in the first round. I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimS Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Competition at all positions, that is what has been said. Can't be too mad unless they overpaid. Okay with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I like the move, eases the need for a QB a bit, and makes other teams think twice about who we might take. Maybe makes it more viable for us to trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Nice signing, now draft the QB of the future in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leper65 Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Which almost for sure means we are out for Geno Smith, correct? It doesn't look like Geno will be there at 8 to me, unless OAK trades out of the #3 spot. If he is I'd still take him. If he's gone we don't need to reach for Barkley or anyone else. I'd rather take my chances with with Tyler Wilson or Nassib in the 2nd if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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