GG Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 If Rogers is cutting their payment by more than one-half, there;s no financial gain to offset losing home field advntage. Brandon however is locked in to this fiasco plus he would have to sell another 73k of ticket inventory insuring 4 tv blackouts next year. Rogers is playing hardball with him and everything will be done to their terms including no preseason games in Toronto. The TV blackouts don't hurt the Bills as much as they hurt the local TV stations. Ralph Wilson gets his share of NFL revenue (which is predominantly is from the TV contracts), come rain or shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Rogers is playing hardball with him and everything will be done to their terms including no preseason games in Toronto. Selling them pre-season scrimmages was like selling a snow ball to a polar bear. Nice job, but might be more difficult the second time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 At the end of season meeting with RW, who else will push for any change and encourage RW to do so? Rumor had it back in 2008 that Brandon pushed to have DJ fired. Brandon knows better than anyone that selling 45k+ season tickets with Nix, Gailey, and perhaps Fitz, is all but impossible. I've been hard on Brandon because he's something of a sycophant, but he's not the problem at OBD. He may, in fact, be part of the solution. The BinT series is not his fault, he just happened to find a billionaire, Rogers, and his stooge, Lind, to overpay for the product. I suspect Brandon will push RW to have Nix retired, Gailey, fired, and Whaley to assume the GM role. Who else depends more on the personnel people more for their own success? It's Brandon. Maybe the 1st time ever I've completely agreed with you. It's a festivus miracle. And as one of the most optimistic Bills fan still around, I will have a tough time buying any tickets if no major changes aren't made. With the schedule and all the expectations, this may have been the most disappointing Bills season in the last 13 years. It's been like a giant kick to the balls. Selling them pre-season scrimmages was like selling a snow ball to a polar bear. Nice job, but might be more difficult the second time around. Where in the world would a polar bear get money in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Where in the world would a polar bear get money in the first place? Polar bears are cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 My high school classmate married him. Many of the folks who are closer to her than I am regard him as a complete d-bag. But that's second-hand information. I can only evaluate what he's done for this franchise. There are two ways to market a team. One is to do what Brandon has done. The other is to win. I guess the best you can say for him is that he's made winning irrelevant to whether the team stays here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Where in the world would a polar bear get money in the first place? Maybe he tweaked someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 So I guess that it has not been overly publicizied, but the new toronto series will call for 2 games, YES 2 games played in Rogers center each year, and that's somehow GOOD for Buffalo? How can Bills fans actually be so blind? Link, or stop the tantrum please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 How does Branden get away with his lies. Heres' from the Toronro Star: The announced attendance last Sunday, when the Seattle Seahawks pasted the ever-lousy Bills, was 40,770. A man who knows suggested “way under” 40,000 tickets were sold and tales of day-game giveaways are common Brandens not only a liar but an idiot. Get rid of him. JW from what i've been told, the attendance figure from the game against the Seahawks was the closest accurate figure they're released in regards to tickets sold since the series debuted five years ago. ... also, the game is controlled by Rogers, not the Bills, so it is on them to provide attendance figures. i'm not entirely sure why you pin this on Russ. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 from what i've been told, the attendance figure from the game against the Seahawks was the closest accurate figure they're released in regards to tickets sold since the series debuted five years ago. ... also, the game is controlled by Rogers, not the Bills, so it is on them to provide attendance figures. i'm not entirely sure why you pin this on Russ. jw John. Never argue with us fans. We know everything. Just ask us! Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Russ is what he is, a MARKETING GUY. The mistake was when Ralph Wilson had him as head of football operations a few years back with no GM in place. Russ is not a personel guy. He is very good at finding ways to promote the team and try to build the brand of Buffalo Bills Football. He is not the problem really. If anything he is being asked by Mr Wilson to go above and beyond his area of expertise. That is not Russ' fault. Mr Wilson needs to bring in a competent football person to run the football side of things. this person would work in conjunction with Russ on moves and things the team was making. Thus giving Russ a product to sell. Just my take on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 from what i've been told, the attendance figure from the game against the Seahawks was the closest accurate figure they're released in regards to tickets sold since the series debuted five years ago. ... also, the game is controlled by Rogers, not the Bills, so it is on them to provide attendance figures. i'm not entirely sure why you pin this on Russ. jw +i think people are frustrated with the toronto money grab and brandon is the face of it, rightly or wrongly, hence it is on him.. who else could we blame? littman , ralph, overdorf somehow are invisible.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 I will never give up the fight, so with the terrible news of the abomination toronto series, I implore all Bills fans to come to their senses, and petition the team to rid themselves of the idiotic man behind this steam-pile. You now know who is really pulling the strings, so lets get the guy who is COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE for stealing away a home game every year from loyal Bills fans, and crippling the team and doom it to failure. This can't possibly be about the money, since Erie County loses out in a massive way, and the revenue lost from actual stateside ticket sales is not offset by this ridiculous series, so seriously ask yourself WHY then are they doing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 there is no way Russ Brandon fires himself. Only hope is a new owner and a house cleaning, if and when that happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) I will never give up the fight, so with the terrible news of the abomination toronto series, I implore all Bills fans to come to their senses, and petition the team to rid themselves of the idiotic man behind this steam-pile. You now know who is really pulling the strings, so lets get the guy who is COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE for stealing away a home game every year from loyal Bills fans, and crippling the team and doom it to failure. This can't possibly be about the money, since Erie County loses out in a massive way, and the revenue lost from actual stateside ticket sales is not offset by this ridiculous series, so seriously ask yourself WHY then are they doing it? If Bills fans sold out every game I might agree. But we don't. PTR Edited January 29, 2013 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 If Bills fans sold out every game I might agree. But we don't. PTR Honestly, what Bills fans do is absolutely amazing considering how the team does. But for all the crying about Toronto, our tickets are freaking dirt cheap. They are like half of major markets. Pats fans love coming to games at the Ralph because it's like pocket change for them. If you can steal $75 million again from Toronto and also prove they aren't ready to have their own franchise, why the hell not? Buffalo = smallest NFL market in the NFL. Buffalo + Toronto=top 5 market and better for the Bills to stay long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) Buffalo + Toronto isnt happening. Do you guys read the press up there or speak to actual Canadians? they want nothing to do with the Bills unless it is their own team Unless they were already Bills fans, and they hate the series too and prefer games in WNY Edited January 29, 2013 by May Day 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 If we can use the money made from this towards signing free agents then I guess I am ok with it. Also, would having this series make it harder for the team to be moved? CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Buffalo + Toronto isnt happening. Do you guys read the press up there or speak to actual Canadians? they want nothing to do with the Bills unless it is their own team There are a ton of people from Southern Ontario who comes to Bills games as fans. I think it is like 20% maybe. So you throw them a bone once a year. And honestly, if it did help get Mario, who cares that we couldn't see the Seahawks? For the record, most Canadians hate the Toronto game because tailgating there sucks. Not my favorite thing in the world, but who cares if they don't give up a division game? Just put the least attractive team on our schedule up there and steal their funny looking money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 you should be THANKING russ...... with Toronto the bills are the 4th largest NFL market...... without Toronto the bills will be the 2nd largest NFL market.......when they move to Los Angeles.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBill Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Not sure you can totally blame it on Brandon, sure Ralphy has a say in the money he pockets. If it were me, Brandon would have already been gone for keeping Buddy Nix around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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