Tu-Toned Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Just curious, seems to me that all of the QB's have this same command at the LOS pre-snap. Also seems that when they yell this, the play is invaribly an audible from a pass to run, as I really do not see or hear any other command prior to the ball being snapped. I realize that the leauge is a copy cat one, bit is this not giving, at least for anybody other than the Pats, the defense a big advantage? I would think that they would at least be able to pick up trends, whether or not they have enough time to react quickly enough is another issue, although how much reaction time and subsequent communications are necessary when you go from a pass play to a run and the defense knows it? Same thing with the states being called out like Palmer screaming Alabama last night, he threw a quick, no read strike every time he yelled it. Just strikes me as odd, at least you would think they would have a different word for kill, like sugar or something, the defense would not be able to tell if he is killing the original play, or just an add on audible like a command for the RB to stay in and pick up a rushing LB or something. It could be that kill is just a rouse, and the real play is communicated after that as the QB goes through the snap count. Maybe 1-80, is a off RT run or 1-65 means a screen or something. Thoughts/explanations? Edited December 7, 2012 by Tu-Toned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Most teams will generally call two plays based upon what they think the defense is doing. If they don't get the matchup they were looking for, the QB can call "KILL" to switch to the other play. How the teams use it is different, of course. It could be a called pass play killed into a run. It could be one pass play killed into another. Or a run into a pass. Totally depending on scheme, coordinator, team, strategy, gameplan, etc. Most of the time it's a pass into a run, but not always. It also varies depending on quarter, situation, etc. Typically teams change their calls on a quarter by quarter basis, but it's again depending on coach / qb / coordinator / etc. Edited December 7, 2012 by BlueFire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinWPB Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It's actually a code to let the offensive line know they're having dinner later at Alices restaurant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tu-Toned Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 It's actually a code to let the offensive line know they're having dinner later at Alices restaurant. Can they get anything they want. Most teams will generally call two plays based upon what they think the defense is doing. If they don't get the matchup they were looking for, the QB can call "KILL" to switch to the other play. How the teams use it is different, of course. It could be a called pass play killed into a run. It could be one pass play killed into another. Or a run into a pass. Totally depending on scheme, coordinator, team, strategy, gameplan, etc. Most of the time it's a pass into a run, but not always. It also varies depending on quarter, situation, etc. Typically teams change their calls on a quarter by quarter basis, but it's again depending on coach / qb / coordinator / etc. Thanks for the explanation, didn't think about two plays being called in the huddle, no wonder the QB is always in a hurry. I still think that they should use another term for kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Another thing I always notice, and I think it was brought up by Collinsworth on NBC, is that anytime the Mannings yell "Omaha", its always checking into a run play. Another not so obvious example from our own team is when Stevie lines up in the backfield. He always goes in motion so they can line him up with a linebacker, and they ALWAYS throw to him. Hopefully Jeff Fisher isn't reading this. Edited December 7, 2012 by QB Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) "KILL KILL KILL.....the white man." Is there anybody more annoying with the audibles than Manning? Shut the hell up and hike the ball, you fat-necked hick. Edited December 7, 2012 by RkFast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 "KILL KILL KILL.....the white man." Is there anybody more annoying with the audibles than Manning? Shut the hell up and hike the ball, you fat-necked hick. That was Fletch Part II...correct??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 "KILL KILL KILL.....the white man." Is there anybody more annoying with the audibles than Manning? Shut the hell up and hike the ball, you fat-necked hick. Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 That was Fletch Part II...correct??? "Pig face scum....go back to where you're from...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It's actually a code to let the offensive line know they're having dinner later at Alices restaurant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Brady. "43's the Mike, 43's the Mike." In other words, the smaller LB (Scott) is in the middle, so let's run it straight ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Killy Kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 AS other have stated it usually has something to do with an audible or a route change something along those lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It's actually a code to let the offensive line know they're having dinner later at Alices restaurant. I remember reading an interview with Kent Hull where he talked about using names of food, ex Chicken Wings, to get the defense to start thinking of food and how hungry they were during the game instead of what the play may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 It's actually a code to let the offensive line know they're having dinner later at Alices restaurant. Now that is funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cincinnati Kid Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I would bet that there are times when an team will use the Kill call and it means nothing at all. Omaha for the Giants means the snap is playclock is low and the snap should come...although, a 3 syllable word for the playclock is about to expire is rather long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 It's actually a code to let the offensive line know they're having dinner later at Alices restaurant. Alices Kitchen? It's closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I would bet that there are times when an team will use the Kill call and it means nothing at all. Omaha for the Giants means the snap is playclock is low and the snap should come...although, a 3 syllable word for the playclock is about to expire is rather long... Truly. why not, "hike?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I'm still intrigued by Tannehill's "go go" when he snaps the ball. Nothing wrong with it but I think it's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc8ViEvTJeE Killy Kill YES YES YES YES YES You heard they're reuniting next year, right Caveman? (You're my new favorite poster, btw.) Edited December 8, 2012 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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