Captain Hindsight Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 He was worth a 7th...even as a backup for next year but definitely not more than that. Maybe that's why he was not activated, in order to keep it a 7th rounder not a 6th or higher. If he is going to be the 3rd QB why activate him? Who do you take out so this guy can hold a clipboard in uniform instead of a hoodie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 1) mooch is just saying what ive been telling the whiners for years, fitz is not elite but hes good enuf to win with. fans want the super qb or nuthin but they never fully remember how truly awful bad qbing can actually be Concur completely. It's like people here have blocked out the last decade of bad QB play we've had. Remember all those horrible sacks, picks, fumbles, check-downs... Fitz isn't a star, but he is solid enough to take a good team very far. Kinda like when brad johnson and gannon went on those super bowl runs several years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Concur completely. It's like people here have blocked out the last decade of bad QB play we've had. Remember all those horrible sacks, picks, fumbles, check-downs... Fitz isn't a star, but he is solid enough to take a good team very far. Kinda like when brad johnson and gannon went on those super bowl runs several years ago. Up until the TEN game, I was 100% on board with this assessment. But I don't think a football team should need an elite defense to beat "good" teams. I place most of our losses squarely on the defense. I do think Fitz has very respectable stats and that he has kept us in most games. The SF loss ... that just happens. SF is just a far better team in every aspect of the game. The TEN loss ... I don't think it should have had to come down to a game winning drive opportunity. I blame the defense for that. But it dawned on me ... regardless of how or why we're in that situation, we don't have a QB who can lead the team to a game winning field goal or TD. You need that, in my opinion. I'm tired of waiting for the defense to save the day. It's not that I want a QB who's going to throw bombs and connect on every one. But Fitz is inaccurate on the short stuff. And he's not clutch. Fitz is great when a) we have the lead and b) we're playing against a team with a bad defense. Take away either one of those things and he's not the guy. And unfortunately, that means - in my opinion - that overall, he's just not the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 Buffalo fans are looking to WIN a Superbowl, not make the playoffs for a cheap thrill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Buffalo fans are looking to WIN a Superbowl, not make the playoffs for a cheap thrill. Speak for yourself. I'd be on cloud nine with a playoff appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 (edited) If we had an average defense, we would have a winning record right now, probably something like 6-3. I think it's easier to get an average defense vs an elite QB. (And even with an elite QB, it'd be tough for us to score 32+ points a game, which is what we would need to beat the amount of points we give up on average, 31.7) Edited November 15, 2012 by Dorkington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 Speak for yourself. I'd be on cloud nine with a playoff appearance. No you wouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I believe Mariucci was being honest. Fitzpatrick would probably do well in a WCO type of offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 He's probably never watched a Bills game, unless forced to by the network. This opinion is based on stats. Anybody who watches Fitz play every week knows he isn't the answer. Exactly. If he had watched Fitz week in and week out like the rest of us, I'm sure he would have a different opinion. And his comments about the running game are laughable as well. Buffalo has two of the best RB's in the league and Chan refuses to just hand them the ball. He's in Buffalo and is playing to the home crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I believe Mariucci was being honest. Fitzpatrick would probably do well in a WCO type of offense. I don't think he's accurate enough for a WCO type of offense. He's got the right brainpower and mobility for it. He's just too inconsistent with his accuracy, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I like Mooch, but he's right where he belongs on NFL Network. He's being far too kind in his assessment of Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Whats he gonna say on the Murph Show? Your QB sucks and the team should tank the rest of the year and draft a good QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Wow....is Mooch lobbying to be our next head coach? Umm maybe He is right about adding a WR but wait we did that this yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 If Fitz could get better with downfield accuracy, I'd say yes. But I think this is as good as it will get. Either way, we're drafting a QB early next year, per Nix. Keep in mind he's pimping this game, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Does anyone know why exactly we picked up Tarvaris Jackson at the end of August? He has no chance of helping the team this year (I don't think he's been active for a single game) so all it means is that we might have him as a backup to Fitz next year. Or maybe not even. Hardly worth a draft pick, even a 7th rounder. I think they got him to be the backup for NEXT yr. They know Pigpen sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Fitz shows flashes of great decision making, plays tough, is a leader, and makes some plays. Ultimately I don't think he was what it takes to win a playoff game, let alone a Superbowl. Unless we have the early 2000's Ravens Defense, we need a better QB if the ultimate goal is a Superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Exactly. If he had watched Fitz week in and week out like the rest of us, I'm sure he would have a different opinion. And his comments about the running game are laughable as well. Buffalo has two of the best RB's in the league and Chan refuses to just hand them the ball. He's in Buffalo and is playing to the home crowd. I think it's more like, "Hey Steve, we've got a game in Buffalo this week. Can you watch last week's game against the Pats and make a few comments about Ryan Fitzpatrick." If they asked him to watch the Houston game one week earlier, I guarantee his opinion would be completely different. And for all the people that stick up for Fitz on this board... CONSISTENCY is the name of the game. Every quarterback will put up a stinker once in awhile - even Rodgers, Brees, Manning, etc. But 6-7 per season is too many bad games for us to ever be a regular playoff team. And after 3 seasons as our starter, that's about the average we can expect from Fitz. By my count, after 9 games he's already had 3 terrible performances (Jets, 49ers, Texans) and an average performance where he lost us the game with a horrible pick (Titans). We all know that Fitz can be lights out and play at a Pro Bowl level for a handful of games every year. But once you hit 6-7 losses, the season is over. If our quarterback is putting us in a hole that many times, he needs to be replaced. And for the record, I'm not giving a pass to the defense at all. By my count, they have had 3 good games this season (Chiefs, Browns, Cardinals), one decent game (Texans) and the other 5 have been horrific. There also need to be major changes to the defense too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 He's probably never watched a Bills game, unless forced to by the network. This opinion is based on stats. Anybody who watches Fitz play every week knows he isn't the answer. I know...I have only had the NFL Network since the begining of the season, but you would think, from the amount of attention they are given by the NFL Network, the franchise had just started existing on Monday... I just get the feeling these guys don't watch a whole lot of Buffalo Bills game film... when they do make any Bills related observations, they seem based on something other than what we see when we watch the games...not saying Mooch is wrong about Fitz, but I have my doubts. If he watched the last 2 games, you could see where he might come up with this...but it is not a very informed opinion, if that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBackupQB Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 key thing he said was... "USE THE RUNNING GAME"...If alex Smith can win in this league so can Fitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Lol, that Network just had on the crawl that Buffalo has not won a division game since October 2010! Guess that Pats game no count from last year. BTW, I still be on the Fitz bandwagon No one here remembers that game. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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