#34fan Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 (edited) He can only play right away if he plays at a lower level of college ball....any big time program he will have to sit a year.. I don't see him making it a year on the street without getting locked up. -Not being bigoted or anything, but the odds are against him running into high-character people while he's on his sofa getting high. I truly hope he tries to get into a good FCS program like App state, or Richmond. Poor kid. -Hang tough Tyrann. Edited August 11, 2012 by #34fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 I don't see him making it a year on the street without getting locked up. -Not being bigoted or anything, but the odds are against him running into high-character people while he's on his sofa getting high. I truly hope he tries to get into a good FCS program like App state, or Richmond. Poor kid. -Hang tough Tyrann. And McNeese State has reached out to the Honey Badger. PTR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Better than nothing, I suppose. -Not far enough away from the home-town haters, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I don't think App State would have any interest in him. The program is pretty clean there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Wooooow! While I'm not surprised, and think the marijuana laws are ridiculous, this is pretty big news. Will have a pretty big impact on how the SEC shakes out this year. I wonder if we're going to see the start of the SEC downswing soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 the latest rumor in town is that hes trying to negotiate a year long suspension, and to return to LSU next year. no idea on the credibility of that, but figured id float it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I don't think App State would have any interest in him. The program is pretty clean there. Richmond would welcome him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy in 4C Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Honey Badger would've been the #3 pick in the draft this year if he was eligible. He was defensive player of the year at age 19. He can instantly be a pro-bowl starter year #1. No chance he slips to the second round or mid-20s like people are saying. Just watch, he "gets it together" over the next year and goes top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Wooooow! While I'm not surprised, and think the marijuana laws are ridiculous, this is pretty big news. Will have a pretty big impact on how the SEC shakes out this year. I wonder if we're going to see the start of the SEC downswing soon... Say what?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Honey Badger would've been the #3 pick in the draft this year if he was eligible. He was defensive player of the year at age 19. He can instantly be a pro-bowl starter year #1. No chance he slips to the second round or mid-20s like people are saying. Just watch, he "gets it together" over the next year and goes top 5. Every draft expert I've heard, has him pegged as a late round pick, because he has no real position and is undersized. Drafting someone that high who will basically be a return specialist is reminiscent of Desmond Howard or Rocket Ismail. I doubt they would have been picked as high as they were if the teams had to do it over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Never mind, I thought this was about honey boo boo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I don't think App State would have any interest in him. The program is pretty clean there. Agree. And a WTF to the original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 Honey Badger would've been the #3 pick in the draft this year if he was eligible. He was defensive player of the year at age 19. He can instantly be a pro-bowl starter year #1. No chance he slips to the second round or mid-20s like people are saying. Just watch, he "gets it together" over the next year and goes top 5. yea thats a bit much. i dont think he would have been top 5 before this, yet alone after. hes not that great of a cover corner, and hes terribly undersized. he has good ball skills and makes a lot of highlight reel plays, but he isnt a guy that is likely to be an island on the outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Every draft expert I've heard, has him pegged as a late round pick, because he has no real position and is undersized. Drafting someone that high who will basically be a return specialist is reminiscent of Desmond Howard or Rocket Ismail. I doubt they would have been picked as high as they were if the teams had to do it over again. Hmmm… Adam "Pacman" Jones was undersized too. Pacman, like Honey Badger was intercepting passes, defending passes, forcing and recovering fumbles, and returning kicks and punts for TDs. Both players are extremely quick, fast, and explosive. I'm not a big college football fan but it seems like they have lots in common including bad judgement. Anyways, Pacman was drafted 6th overall. Not sure what you mean by a "late-round pick." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 John Clayton interviews a NFL GM who said he wouldn't even draft him. Pacman was a shutdown CB in college. Honey Badger is just an exceptional athlete. Could a team with a great D plug him in at FS and let him do his thing, probably but he ain't playing CB in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Hmmm… Adam "Pacman" Jones was undersized too. Pacman, like Honey Badger was intercepting passes, defending passes, forcing and recovering fumbles, and returning kicks and punts for TDs. Both players are extremely quick, fast, and explosive. I'm not a big college football fan but it seems like they have lots in common including bad judgement. Anyways, Pacman was drafted 6th overall. Not sure what you mean by a "late-round pick." Late round is probably a huuuuge exaggeration. That said at 5'9 and I'd guess closer to 165 than 175 he's an inch shorter and 10 lbs lighter (atleast) compared to the already undersized pacman. He's going to struggle mightily against bigger, stronger nfl receivers. I think you would have seen him mid-late first before this, now likely deep into the second if I had to guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Honey badger is in rehab and not playing this year - thats a twist i didnt expect. good for him. if he has a problem (which it seems he does if hes risking all the opportunities he has) than that is bigger than football. glad to hear hes going to try to get himself right instead of just get film any way he can and go pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Late round is probably a huuuuge exaggeration. That said at 5'9 and I'd guess closer to 165 than 175 he's an inch shorter and 10 lbs lighter (atleast) compared to the already undersized pacman. He's going to struggle mightily against bigger, stronger nfl receivers. I think you would have seen him mid-late first before this, now likely deep into the second if I had to guess. The size part doesn't scare me too much because corners have traditionally been a bit on the shorter side. McGee is only 5'9" too. I don't know how big Finnegan is, but that's who he reminds me of. Tough, physical guy not afraid to get into guys faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleaMoulds80 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) The size part doesn't scare me too much because corners have traditionally been a bit on the shorter side. McGee is only 5'9" too. I don't know how big Finnegan is, but that's who he reminds me of. Tough, physical guy not afraid to get into guys faces. has nothing to do with height but weight. McGee outweighs Tyrann by almost 30 lbs. Finnegan almost by 15 lbs Edited August 17, 2012 by FleaMoulds80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 has nothing to do with height but weight. McGee outweighs Tyrann by almost 30 lbs. Finnegan almost by 15 lbs Yeah, because everybody plays at their 19yr old weight 8 years into their NFL career... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Outta rehab and declaring for the draft. He'll get an agent and have one of those "conversions" and be a first round pick. He'll probably even be a top ten pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Before the suspension and rehab I had TM at 21: Matt Barkley Star Lotulelei Robert Woods Sam Montgomery Tyler Wilson Barkevious Mingo Jarvis Jones Keenan Allen David Amerson Justin Gilbert (Jr.) Johnathan Hankins Justin Hunter Jackson Jeffcoat Eric Reid Xavier Rhodes Logan Thomas Marcus Lattimore Chris Faulk Andre Ellington Barrett Jones Tyrann Mathieu Now DraftTek Top 100 doesn't include the Honey Bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Yeah, because everybody plays at their 19yr old weight 8 years into their NFL career... His size isn't his biggest detraction, it's his cover ability. He has a weird knack for stripping the ball, recovering it, then using his athletic ability to make something happen but draft experts don't think he's an NFL CB. Maybe FS, but how high do you want to draft one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 The size part doesn't scare me too much because corners have traditionally been a bit on the shorter side. McGee is only 5'9" too. I don't know how big Finnegan is, but that's who he reminds me of. Tough, physical guy not afraid to get into guys faces. finnegan has atleast 20lbs on honey badger. thats a big deal. tyranns listed weight is 175, and from what i hear that is on the generous side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 His size isn't his biggest detraction, it's his cover ability. He has a weird knack for stripping the ball, recovering it, then using his athletic ability to make something happen but draft experts don't think he's an NFL CB. Maybe FS, but how high do you want to draft one? Yup, not debating his cover ability because I don't really know anything of it. I only watch LSU maybe twice a year. The size argument doesn't hold weight w/ me because he's such a young guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Yeah, because everybody plays at their 19yr old weight 8 years into their NFL career... its true, mayhem maybin can fluctuate 20 lbs any given day. Yup, not debating his cover ability because I don't really know anything of it. I only watch LSU maybe twice a year. The size argument doesn't hold weight w/ me because he's such a young guy. hes definitely not an "island" type of coverage guy. hes a risk taker that makes the highlight plays. thats not to say hes a disaster in coverage, but hes not someone thats going to be considered a lock down corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleaMoulds80 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Yeah, because everybody plays at their 19yr old weight 8 years into their NFL career... WTF are you talking about? First of all he's 20. He was heading into his Junior year at LSU, so he should weigh more. Patrick Peterson is only 2 years older and outweighs him by almost 40 lbs. There are FRESHMAN on the LSU roster that weigh about 175-180 at CB. Most of their junior and senior CBs weigh about 185-190. So I don't know what you're talking about. As a Junior, he weighs as much as every Freshman in the secondary. Just looking through their roster, they have a Freshman CB Jalen Mills who is 185 lbs as a freshman. Jalen Collins is a 195 lb Freshman at CB. Tharold Simon is a JUNIOR CB and he weighs 193 lbs. So your theory about age and weight has been debunked. I don't care how old he is. He needs to bulk up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 its true, mayhem maybin can fluctuate 20 lbs any given day. Freaking Maybin. He's not right. As for Tyrann, he's a 20yr old guy and Finnegan is 28, I just think he'll naturally fill out and make up the weight. I'm just making the comparison of their nastiness. Weight wasn't something I figured on debating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleaMoulds80 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Freaking Maybin. He's not right. As for Tyrann, he's a 20yr old guy and Finnegan is 28, I just think he'll naturally fill out and make up the weight. I'm just making the comparison of their nastiness. Weight wasn't something I figured on debating. I've already proved you wrong so you can stop your crying. Weight is a major factor as to why he's not a top 10 pick and more of a late first round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 WTF are you talking about? First of all he's 20. He was heading into his Junior year at LSU, so he should weigh more. Patrick Peterson is only 2 years older and outweighs him by almost 40 lbs. There are FRESHMAN on the LSU roster that weigh about 175-180 at CB. Most of their junior and senior CBs weigh about 185-190. So I don't know what you're talking about. As a Junior, he weighs as much as every Freshman in the secondary. Just looking through their roster, they have a Freshman CB Jalen Mills who is 185 lbs as a freshman. Jalen Collins is a 195 lb Freshman at CB. Tharold Simon is a JUNIOR CB and he weighs 193 lbs. So your theory about age and weight has been debunked. I don't care how old he is. He needs to bulk up. You're useless talking to. I could care less how much other players on the roster weigh. I never alluded to them. You seem to make every comment/argument personal so I'm not going to debate you on a person's weight. You should probably relax. I don't know what theory I have perpetuated but I'm glad you have had something to "debunk." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) Freaking Maybin. He's not right. As for Tyrann, he's a 20yr old guy and Finnegan is 28, I just think he'll naturally fill out and make up the weight. I'm just making the comparison of their nastiness. Weight wasn't something I figured on debating. Fair enough. I am sure he will make up some of the weight, but its a pretty big gap still. its one thing to be a scrapper, but he will have to bump up from chihuahua to something that will hold up to a 16+ game beating. theres undersized (guys like finnegan) and then theres guys that are undersized for being categorized as undersized (TyM). he will have to stock up some and hopefully hold his speed. he sure is fun to watch though, and i wish him the best. i just dont think his frame and coverage skills (not even mentioning baggage) put him in the top 5-10 picks ever. could still be a player but i dont think hes top 5, prototype cb, material. Edited August 17, 2012 by NoSaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleaMoulds80 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 You're useless talking to. I could care less how much other players on the roster weigh. I never alluded to them. You seem to make every comment/argument personal so I'm not going to debate you on a person's weight. You should probably relax. I don't know what theory I have perpetuated but I'm glad you have had something to "debunk." That's a great rebuttal. If you could care less, why'd you even bother to argue with what i said? If you're not going to back yourself up, don't say anything at all. You just don't care now because I proved you wrong. You brought up the whole age/weight argument. So you brought it up. You compared Finnegan to being 28 and Tyrann to being 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Anger Management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Arrested! Guess why?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Arrested! Guess why?!? Bad dye job? GO BILLS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 F'n idiot. I hope he gets his head on straight, but maybe it was football giving him purpose. More then likely, it was football giving him the leeway he needed and covering up his mischief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 stoney badger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 F'n idiot. I hope he gets his head on straight, but maybe it was football giving him purpose. More then likely, it was football giving him the leeway he needed and covering up his mischief. I'd bet he's gotten caught dozens of times but now the police actually bring him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) arrested for smoking weed in a big college town? wow. A) very common B) arrested for ruining a national championship season while happening to carry weed, if I had to guess Kids dumb. Trouble follows him and he's running thin on free passes. Being with Jordan Jefferson being an prime example of this poor judgement. http://www.wwltv.com/sports/college/Report-Jordan-Jefferson-Tyrann-Mathieu-two-other-ex-Tigers-arrested-175873711.html Edited October 26, 2012 by NoSaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endless Ike Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 What are you dinosaurs going to B word and moan about when marijuana is decriminalized in New York state in 2013? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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