Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 And Iowa and South Dakota are basically northern southern states. You lost me on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Búfalo Blanco Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Arguably? They've won the last umpteen national championships. In fact, last year they had both teams in the NCG. Whoever would argue with this is an idiot. I don't think you'll see an argument, the SEC is clearly the best. Believe me, I've got buddies who have stubbornly debated with me for years about the "SEC is the best conference" argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 It's rediculous. They play some decent football up north too. I don't think they even bother to scout it. ACC- SEC-blah-blah-blah Could you stop posting and just go throw a temper tantrum in Walmart so mommy will pay attention to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 It doesn't upset me, but it troubles me. I've had the sense that the scouting has been kind of lazy. They just go after guys they know (colleges where Nix and Gailey have connections, guys Gailey coached in the North-South game, region that Nix used to scout, etc.). Might be fine; might also be too narrow a view of scouting. Nix was hired because even Ralph Wilson noticed a trend, SEC and Southern Schools in general are playing for the NC and winning it pretty much every year. Wilson went out and got a guy who knew the south like the back of his hand. I am sorry for you guys who do not want to accept it, but right now the south is far superior to north or west. Its just a fact. If you want to win the NC you have to go thru the SEC. As Ohio State found out, that is easier said then done. The other confrences do have some good players, but by far the level of competition is tougher in the south and particularly the SEC. If you can play well in that confrence your talents will translate better to the NFL- Big and fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Of course this is where the NFL is screwing over the Bills by giving them those late season home games; since these guys don't know what snow is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flmike Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Some of the picks went to high schools up north. The LB we got in the 5th came from Ohio. Remember Jim Kelly? Another northern kid that went to a southern school. You need guys who have played in snow and bad weather if you want to win at home. You can't really acquire that mindset in a couple of NFL seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Where? Why does this upset some of you guys so much? Who cares where the player comes from? Appealing to the fan base based on Geography, in my opinion, got us picks like Maybin. when was Maybin ever appealing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Believe me, I've got buddies who have stubbornly debated with me for years about the "SEC is the best conference" argument. Your buddies are idiots. They'd get along great with my buddies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Could it partially be that they are targeting a profile that just happens to mesh more with what coaches target and develop at LSU, bama, etc... to succeed in that division, as opposed to the type of players found at Ohio state, penn st etc.... They want big school, big conference guys- only leaving soooo many northern or western options right off the bat. They want guys with prototype size, and extra speed - and guys that played against that (kind of knocks out the northern guys that tend to be a bit less built for speed). You start following the profile and it runs regionally right into the heart of the south/southeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 It's amazing to me how much attention this issue gets. I will say, after moving south it's easy to see why the better prospects in almost all sports come from the south. The better weather allows for almost year round play of all sports, and the level of intensity of parents and school programs only fuels it further. Most northern kids have little chance when compared to how kids in the south grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Your buddies are idiots. They'd get along great with my buddies! Wait, both of you hang out with guys that are idiots? (connecting the dots) Could it partially be that they are targeting a profile that just happens to mesh more with what coaches target and develop at LSU, bama, etc... to succeed in that division, as opposed to the type of players found at Ohio state, penn st etc.... They want big school, big conference guys- only leaving soooo many northern or western options right off the bat. They want guys with prototype size, and extra speed - and guys that played against that (kind of knocks out the northern guys that tend to be a bit less built for speed). You start following the profile and it runs regionally right into the heart of the south/southeast. I believe the epicenter is in the area just south of Jackson, Mississippi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 In the past two drafts, the Bills have drafted 13 players. All went to southern schools. In three Nix drafts, 19 of the 22 players chosen went to southern schools, and of the 3 non-Southern players drafted in 09 (out of 9 total), all were late round picks. In 3 years of day 1 picks, 9 out of 9 choices went to southern schools. It's the curse of Trent Edwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Good thing Wannstedt spent time in tx and fla... Or he'd be out. In all seriousness, Sec is the most well represented. Lack of big 10 anyway bucks the trend a little bit... But if they draft from the moon, ifstrategy works then stick to it. http://www.sbnation.com/2012-nfl-draft/2012/4/28/2983432/2012-nfl-draft-picks-college-conference-sec-pac-12-big-ten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Perhaps folks will now believe the preference for southern schools by Bills talent evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Schefter replied to a tweet asking what he thought of the Bills Draft? His response "excellent and they Bills can save some money by eliminating their Northern Scouting Staff" Love it!! Normally, the term "Mr. Irrelevant" refers to the last player picked in the draft. But on the Bills, it could refer to the regional scouts covering the Pacific Northwest, Southwest, Midwest, etc. I'd be depressed if I was one of those scouts and all my work amounted to nada each and every draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) Normally, the term "Mr. Irrelevant" refers to the last player picked in the draft. But on the Bills, it could refer to the regional scouts covering the Pacific Northwest, Southwest, Midwest, etc. I'd be depressed if I was one of those scouts and all my work amounted to nada each and every draft day. Of course we don't know the boards, so although it might be stacked southern, part could also be the fact that guys like dareus and Gilmore really didn't have any PAC-10 challengers for the spot. Similarly Glenn and Williams were both first rounders that slid - perhaps, again, simply bpa Even though they didn't get a high pick in there region, it could easily be that they rated there guys fairly and were happy to follow the board still. Edited April 29, 2012 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Normally, the term "Mr. Irrelevant" refers to the last player picked in the draft. But on the Bills, it could refer to the regional scouts covering the Pacific Northwest, Southwest, Midwest, etc. I'd be depressed if I was one of those scouts and all my work amounted to nada each and every draft day. Well, they do have some hot cheerleaders in those conferences. And the scenery's nice in the western states... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Normally, the term "Mr. Irrelevant" refers to the last player picked in the draft. But on the Bills, it could refer to the regional scouts covering the Pacific Northwest, Southwest, Midwest, etc. I'd be depressed if I was one of those scouts and all my work amounted to nada each and every draft day. Hmmmmm. Well, presumably these guys are involved in developing the board and can argue for their players. After that it comes down to whether you're a "glass half full" or "glass half empty" kind of guy. You have to visit a bunch of houses you don't want to buy to recognize the house you'll put in a contract for when you see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Búfalo Blanco Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Wait, both of you hang out with guys that are idiots? (connecting the dots) Darn tootin'... Iggits even.... They ain't the sharpest knives in... Wait, WHAT!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Darn tootin'... Iggits even.... They ain't the sharpest knives in... Wait, WHAT!?! I don't hang out with idiots anymore… mostly I just hang out… with myself… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts