simpleman Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 After playing the team and watching the Pro Bowl, how about the Cincinnati Draft. And Dalton was there, and filled a need in our 2nd round. I would take their 1st and 2nd round choices any time.(Not that I too would have taken Dareus at the time.) Hope we won't look back at the 2012 draft and still need a quarterback. Fritz is an acceptable backup QB, but we really need to find our "Dalton" this year. A QB in the 2nd round this year. A great year to trade down in the first if we get a chance, and can pick up another 2nd rounder. A lot of lower 1st rounders will be there that would fill our needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Dareus and Williams were perfectly fine choices in the first two rounds. No doubt AJ Green would look good in a Bills uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Dalton is about as good as hes ever gonna be. Expect him to be a middle of the road starter for the next 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 You only get 1 pick per round usually. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 You only get 1 pick per round usually. PTR Unless you're the Patriots*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Dalton is about as good as hes ever gonna be. Expect him to be a middle of the road starter for the next 10 years and you're basing this on what? bc you heard someone like McShay say it once saying any player will never progress after his rookie year after playing as well as he did is just dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 We'll see where Dalton goes from there. Palmer was the first overall pick, but the Bengals mostly sucked while he was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I don't say this to slam the OP who is certainly not suggesting that the Bills did anything wrong by taking Dareus. But, can anyone point to a PRE-draft thread suggesting the Bills should have taken Green and then Dalton? There have been several threads, like the one below, that suggest the Bills should have taken Dalton but it's just too easy in hindsight. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 and you're basing this on what? bc you heard someone like McShay say it once saying any player will never progress after his rookie year after playing as well as he did is just dumb Seems like people are already writing off Dareus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 and you're basing this on what? bc you heard someone like McShay say it once saying any player will never progress after his rookie year after playing as well as he did is just dumb He isn't gifted talent wise. His arm is good enough to make all the throws but not the strongest. He's fairly athletic but not overly. I don't see anything in his game that suggests he will be a top ten QB. Perhaps you've seen something in his skill set? Middle of the road is fine but the OP suggests Dalton makes us super bowl contenders which isn't true. Dalton is a fine starter and can win you some games, but he will never be in the class of Brady or Brees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I still think the best QB that will come out of that draft will be Jake Locker. I like the way he plays the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) The top of the 2011 draft looks good already. And, yes, that includes Dareus. He is going to be the cornerstone of the Buffalo defense for years to come. He is big, versatile and appears to have his head screwed on right. Because of what he is asked to do, he is not going to be a sack-monster or a tackling machine. But he will command attention from opposing defenses, which should allow other players around him (assuming we get some upgrades there) to produce. Believe it or not good big men like him are much harder to find that talented wide receivers (AJ Green) and pass rush specialists (Miller). That isn't to knock either of those guys, who had outstanding rookie seasons and look to be quality players for years to come. Indeed, the Bills could use a player like Miller and Green in this year's draft if they are there. Honestly, I do not see any real separation between Fitz and Dalton. Both are, IMHO, middle-of-the-road starting QBs. Dalton was a good pick up for the Bengals, because they desperately needed to find an instant starter once Palmer pulled his prima dona nonsense. Yes, Dalton is a rookie and could certainly get better, but he had the benefit of a very good defense to back him up, and the offense was structured in such a way that Dalton was not asked to do much. Whereas, Fitz, I believe, put too much pressure on himself to try to score on every possession, largely because he was having to play catch-up so often. Chan probably could have helped him a little more with additional patience with the running game. I liked what I saw from Aaron Williams most of the time. I know everyone screams every time the Bills draft a CB early, but their history of allowing them to walk (Odoms, Buris, Winfield, Clements, Greer...) means that they have to invest high picks on them early. Also, Dave W has traditionally favored using more man-coverage, and the Bills are going to need tough, physical CBs to deal with teams like the Pats. Edited January 30, 2012 by 2003Contenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Seems like people are already writing off Dareus. Not anyone with a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Dalton is about as good as hes ever gonna be. Expect him to be a middle of the road starter for the next 10 years I concur. Even if he exceeds those expectations, it does NOT imply that just picking a QB in round 2 yields a good starting QB in future years. Usually, that is not the case. Check out this article from last year discussing 2nd round QBs: http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d81f83c9c/printable/dont-count-on-qbneedy-teams-finding-help-in-second-round In case the link doesn't work, they list Randall Cunningham, Drew Brees, Boomer Esiason and Brett Favre as the only franchise-level QBs drafted in round 1 in a decade. To be sure, Andy Dalton had a promising rookie year. He might develop into a top 1/3 of the league starter - but now that teams have his M.O. maybe he'll regress. He is supposed to be smart and athletic with an OK arm, so MAYBE he'll continue to progress. TJ Yates, is a good example of a qb that had a good rookie year that probably won't be a good long-term starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbillsfan Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Lets see what the future holds as far as Dalton. I do not see him being any better then Fitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cincinnati Kid Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Andy Dalton is equal to Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson. Yup They won superbowls...with excellent Defenses and a "Don't Lose this game for us" message from a rabid linebacker on their own team (Derrick Brooks and Ray Lewis). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Dalton is about as good as hes ever gonna be. Expect him to be a middle of the road starter for the next 10 years Well that's pretty dam good play offs & the Pro bowl in his first year as a rookie !!! How do you figure he's not going to get any better ??? If they get another good WR he can do nothin but get better !! Who were your QB picks last year ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Well that's pretty dam good play offs & the Pro bowl in his first year as a rookie !!! How do you figure he's not going to get any better ??? If they get another good WR he can do nothin but get better !! Who were your QB picks last year ?? Because his limitations didn't strike people as things that will improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandamonium Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Lets see what the future holds as far as Dalton. I do not see him being any better then Fitz True, but he won't be any worse either. I'm sure if you asked any Bengals fan they'll tell you that they don't miss having Fitz on their rostergiven Dalton's potential (and Fitz's lack thereof). The fact is there's only one sure-fire QB in the draft this year, and the Bills would never consider making a play to get him, so get used to being subpar. MIA and NYJ don't always make the best moves, but at least they take chances to improve their team and close the gap with NE. They may land Flynn and Manning, respectively, and we'll go to bat with the Cornish Gunslinger. The good news is that we will eventually suck bad enough to draft someone of Luck's potential and possibly end the drought. Maybe the L.A. Bills will be competitive later this decade (under new management). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 You only get 1 pick per round usually. PTR And exactly how does this comment relate to this discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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