C.Biscuit97 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Should the bills be willing to trade Dareus and their 1st round pick for the Rams 2nd overall pick? Would the Rams accept that offer? I'd do that if I was the Rams, but they are going to have the luxury of being really picky. Personally if I'm the Rams, I quietly shop Bradford around. I think he is an injury risk and I think the upside on RG3 far surpasses Bradford. Never a big fan of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Thats working out great for the 8-8 jets I'd trade my left you know what for two AFC Championship games in back-to-back seasons. You wouldn't? I don't care how they did it, but their approach to FA has been more successful than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'd trade my left you know what for two AFC Championship games in back-to-back seasons. You wouldn't? I don't care how they did it, but their approach to FA has been more successful than not. They are already in salary cap hell and have a bunch of malcontents on their roster they can't release because their salaries are already guaranteed. They sold out for a shot at the super bowl and failed. Those teams are wayyyyy more talented than us and if we beat them the second time around we would have had equal records this past year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 They are already in salary cap hell and have a bunch of malcontents on their roster they can't release because their salaries are already guaranteed. They sold out for a shot at the super bowl and failed. Those teams are wayyyyy more talented than us and if we beat them the second time around we would have had equal records this past year And the problem we have in common? Mid tier, erratic qb play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I concur with this thread. I'd trade the draft for him. It would kill any chances this season, but I believe he'll be a special player. The way we draft, there's a chance we select 1 good player and 2 ok players plus a couple for depth. I'd trade those for a qb with griffens potential and character every day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'd do that if I was the Rams, but they are going to have the luxury of being really picky. Personally if I'm the Rams, I quietly shop Bradford around. I think he is an injury risk and I think the upside on RG3 far surpasses Bradford. Never a big fan of his. I could see this going down also... you think they could give them to Washington for their first round pick and take Blackmon? If I am the Rams... RG3 + Blackmon > Bradford + whoever they trade with picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hater Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Look at the Bills #1 Draft picks since 2000 Erik Flowers Bust Nate Clements Gone Mike Williams Bust Willis McGahee Gone Lee Evans Gone J.P. Losman Bust (plus we gave up a 1st for him) Roscoe Parrish (2nd Round)Gone maybe at best average player Donte Whitner Gone John McCargo Bust Marshawn Lynch Gone Leodis McKelvin Average Aaron Maybin Bust Eric Wood Good CJ Spiller Good Marcell Dareus Good So only 4 of 15 player we Drafted in the 1st round are still on the team & 3 are from the last 3 seasons & the other 11 are gone or where a total bust so who who thinks its too much for RG3? at this point what are we giving up Edited February 28, 2012 by Matt183 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I concur with this thread. I'd trade the draft for him. It would kill any chances this season, but I believe he'll be a special player. The way we draft, there's a chance we select 1 good player and 2 ok players plus a couple for depth. I'd trade those for a qb with griffens potential and character every day of the week. And what about the "F the future, I want playoffs NOW" crowd. They will be calling for Nix to be run out of town if the playoff drought increases to lucky number 13. And the people that believe Fitz is a top tier QB. There would be a lot of people pissed at ole Buddy if he did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 it will take at least 1,2,3 this year and a 1 next to get into the discussion . The question is would you do it ? If Buddy makes up for those draft losses in FA...absolutely I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 The Browns will get him. They have 2-1st rounders (4th, 22nd) and the 5th pick in the 2nd round. That should be enough to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hater Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 And what about the "F the future, I want playoffs NOW" crowd. They will be calling for Nix to be run out of town if the playoff drought increases to lucky number 13. And the people that believe Fitz is a top tier QB. There would be a lot of people pissed at ole Buddy if he did that. its going to be 13 seasons playoff drought anyway, Griffin wouldn't come in & it changes overnight but its a start & for those that think Fitz is a top tier QB are kidding us & themselves & why are the Browns talking to the Rams to trade up if the Rams over price that pick nobody is going to trade for it & Minnesota isn't going to draft RG3 so just wait till he falls to 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstealer Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Until he struggles midway through his rookie season and we have threads popping up here declaring him a bust. He'd be in good company. Cam and Eli are the only qb's right now that are enjoying absolute faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 & why are the Browns talking to the Rams to trade up if the Rams over price that pick nobody is going to trade for it & Minnesota isn't going to draft RG3 so just wait till he falls to 4th If the Browns really want RGIII, they'd be stupid to take a chance and wait for him to fall to #4. If the Rams stay tight at #2, which would be stupid on their part, you know that Minny will start looking for offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiero Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 St. Louis is trading out of the spot. Nix and Ralphie need to collectively borrow someone's balls and do what it takes and get up there and get this kid. Want to win? Get a FRANCHISE QB, this kid is going to be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipers Hair Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I read from the Bills site that they interviewed with RGIII. I dont ask why because I dont like him, (would love him), but to be perfectly honest, we dont have the bullets to compete with the other suiters for the 2 pick... Why waste their and his time interviewing - to further tease themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 My theory is they interviewed him to get an understanding of the guy they'll have to play 2X per year for the next 10, if Miami takes him. Kind of along the same lines as why Chan Gailey asked Stanford Routt how he picked off that ball against the Bills last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 1- You can't rule out anything. A move up for RG3 by the Bills is highly highly unlikely, but that doesn't mean you don't do your due diligence. 2- Perhaps the Bills want to stack him up vs. the other prospects this year, or for that matter, prospects in years to come. 3- Maybe you want to pick his brain about his teammates that are also in this years draft, or maybe even prospects in years to come. You don't lose anything by sitting down with the top few prospects in each years draft, so why not do it. It at least can give you a benchmark to compare future prospects to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I read from the Bills site that they interviewed with RGIII. I dont ask why because I dont like him, (would love him), but to be perfectly honest, we dont have the bullets to compete with the other suiters for the 2 pick... Why waste their and his time interviewing - to further tease themselves? What if Flynn goes to Miami, manning to Washington, and the browns decide to not give away everything come April? I know the browns seem toooo obvious but it's still a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 These interviews are not out of the ordinary. They're getting to know the guy. You never know what kind of course his career could take. What if he's a free agent in five years? This is just due diligence done by every team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I read from the Bills site that they interviewed with RGIII. I dont ask why because I dont like him, (would love him), but to be perfectly honest, we dont have the bullets to compete with the other suiters for the 2 pick... Why waste their and his time interviewing - to further tease themselves? I think Marcel Dareus, Aaron Williams and the Bills #1 this year and next would get it done, so yeah, they have the bullets IMO. And I would make that trade. We all love our young players, but the reality is that winning big in the NFL is very difficult without a star QB and as the field gets reduced in the playoffs, very often the better team ends up losing to the better QB etc., etc. It's about the QB. I like Fitz, but he is a pedestrian QB. The Rams, as the team trading that pick will in no way recoup the potential value of that pick. RG3 is a once a year QB in a year when there are 2 of those guys. Once a year might not sound so impressive, but there are 32 teams so do the math. He has the potential to be a superstar and a franchise changer. The Bills are a franchise in need of change. A visit or two to the wildcard round of the playoffs isn't going to turn the Bills into the marketing machine that they will need to be to justify a billion dollar investment from a new owner, let alone help the team secure a stadium of the future etc.. I don't look at it as a dire situation right now, but the organization should be pro-active. I have said it before, the Bills could have used every first round pick since 2000 on a QB and be no worse off than they are now. RG3 has clear, superstar talent. He is less of a projection than guys like Roethlisberger or Philip Rivers or even Eli Manning. Take advantage of the situation and get the QB and don't look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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