DarthICE Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I hope the new guys will be able to start turning this around with mid tier draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Dude, ANY first-rounder is going to help us, so long as we have a competent flipping GENERAL MANAGER doing the drafting. Seriously, why do we even CARE where we draft first when we still have a bunch of IDIOTS doing the drafting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Give it up! The team doesnt play to lose. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Give it up! The team doesnt play to lose. Get over it. Chiefs outplayed us to lose. We lost in losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Chiefs outplayed us to lose. We lost in losing. And that's exactly why they will be picking ahead of us in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I don't think they win another game so 5-11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxelRipper Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 1.) YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME 2.) Rookies are not going to solve our issues. our offensive line was all rookies... look where that got us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 It's gonna drop even more, Ice. Get used to it. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 It's gonna drop even more, Ice. Get used to it. PTR Well that sucks. Too bad most fans are too homeristic or near sighted to see what is best for the team. Winning? Why? Most of this team wont' be here in the next 2 years when a REAL staff gets in here and replaces them with good players. Coaching? You can kick just about all of them out the door as well. Bottom line, losing from here on out for a higher ranking in the draft standings is whats best for the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 high draft picks have certainly helped the lions i think our young players learn a lot by winning together as a team, pretty much regardless of how that win is achieved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 these threads are stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutie Flakes Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I hope the new guys will be able to start turning this around with mid tier draft picks. That's funny, there are many NFL front offices in the league that seem to do just fine year after year with mid tier draft picks. It's the front office and scouting that makes not only a draft, but sound FREE AGENT acquisitions as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flomoe Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 these threads are stupid +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrojanitor Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 I hope the new guys will be able to start turning this around with mid tier draft picks. B word B word moan moan. You play to win. period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 1.) YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME 2.) Rookies are not going to solve our issues. our offensive line was all rookies... look where that got us drafting the right rookies can help solve problems...you dont think drafting Oher would have helped the O-line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 With the draft as publicized as it is, the top college talent is hyped far too often as guaranteed. PIT, IND, NE, PHI, BAL, and SD rarely pick top 10, but certainly are for lack of talent. There's no reason a team can't find excellent players in 10-15, which is where Buffalo could very well select. Now, if only RW wises up and hires a GM who can find these top notch personnel evaluators the aforementioned teams have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 People rooting for losses are losers. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billnutinphoenix Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Drafting in the top 5 is a risky proposition especially with all the money that goes into 1 player.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrojanitor Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 People rooting for losses are losers. PTR :thumbdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 these threads are stupid Note who the OP is. This should not be a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 It's gonna drop even more, Ice. Get used to it. PTR "Ice" Lol! I remember him well. I saw him on another Bills board for a while, you know the one skooby's on now but I haven't seen him for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 "Ice" Lol! I remember him well. I saw him on another Bills board for a while, you know the one skooby's on now but I haven't seen him for a while. "Assclown" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 "Ice" Lol! I remember him well. I saw him on another Bills board for a while, you know the one skooby's on now but I haven't seen him for a while. Yeah, they let him back in. Not sure why. Still not adding any value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Bottom line, losing from here on out for a higher ranking in the draft standings is whats best for the team Give me a freaking break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 i'm happy to have ice back even though i disagree with him on this issue. what really pisses me off is that i can no longer find the recipe for retatta. that needs to be unearthed and pinned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 i'm happy to have ice back even though i disagree with him on this issue. what really pisses me off is that i can no longer find the recipe for retatta. that needs to be unearthed and pinned. Might as well let that jackass back, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 i had beers with that guy at the pole. he was cool enough. it was sort of funny what passes for food in indiana though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 i had beers with that guy at the pole. he was cool enough. it was sort of funny what passes for food in indiana though. Can't say my experience was the same, man. You on the other hand... I need to get back up there and go to a game. Maybe once they blow up the front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 yeah that was the first tbd tailgate....i got smashed that day but still remember some big dude handing me a bowl of tasty chili with a kindly smile on his face...i must have looked like i needed some solid food or something...thats one of my few enduring memories from that day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 yeah that was the first tbd tailgate....i got smashed that day but still remember some big dude handing me a bowl of tasty chili with a kindly smile on his face...i must have looked like i needed some solid food or something...thats one of my few enduring memories from that day... Appreciate the kind word on the chili. Funny thing is, eveyone loves to eat it but me. Me? I hate eating at tailgates. I'd rather drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I don't think they win another game so 5-11? well, maybe.. I hope they win the home games for the sake of the fans who come out in 20 degree weather.. a top 10 pick is good enough... we need all kinds of help... veteran free agents with some savvy would be just as good as draft picks... coaches, staff, all kinds of needs.. I'd take 7-9. Why not? Winning beats losing. Period. But as I say, in February no one will care who they played in December... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCBongo Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 During the early 90's The Bills has the second to last pick in the draft for like 5 years and they got good picks. If you have a good GM and a competent scouting staff you do well in the draft, regardless of pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Dude, ANY first-rounder is going to help us, so long as we have a competent flipping GENERAL MANAGER doing the drafting. Seriously, why do we even CARE where we draft first when we still have a bunch of IDIOTS doing the drafting? Exactly. As if top ten draft seeding is the panacea for the franchise. Excellent players have been available to us up and down the draft order during this apparent 10 year run of playoff futility. We haven't taken them, and that is largely why we are where we are today. This has been discussed in numerous posts, but it bears repeating. Until our FO is fixed, reorganized, whatever, we could have a top 3 pick every year and would probably be no better off. The Bills are not going to have more than six wins this year and will have more than one excellent player available to them when their draft number comes up. We are not terrible, but we're not terribly good either. As fans we're frustrated because we are so close, yet seem so far from winning division titles. It's not that we don't compete, we just don't often finish the job. The players focus the remainder of the season is not on preserving some slot in the draft order. Hopefully we'll have the right people making the picks in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHampshireBillsFan Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 high draft picks have certainly helped the lions i think our young players learn a lot by winning together as a team, pretty much regardless of how that win is achieved Yes the Matt Millen philosophy, which he stated, was only one team wins the SB, the rest play for draft picks. The Lions certainly did play for draft picks and still seem to even w/o Millen. The thing is the Bills are not going to get a top 5 pick because they are not a bottom 5 team in the NFL. You can't out lose losing teams. They will find a way to out bottom you. Anyway, if you wanted to finish 4-12 or something like that the only hope you ever had was to keep Jauron the whole year. Once he was let go you knew there was going to be at least a little bounce in the positive direction. With Fewell the team probably won't finish worse than 6-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninFl Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I hope the new guys will be able to start turning this around with mid tier draft picks. Hey! Where is your pride. At least we won the Pathetic Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 People rooting for losses are losers. PTR So winning now after the seasons done helps the team now! How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I hope the new guys will be able to start turning this around with mid tier draft picks. Years ago weren't you arguing that they should try to win every game, even when the season was basically over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Personally, I hope like hell we win-out, starting with the Cheatriettes* next Sunday, and finishing by ruining the Colts perfect season. We'll likely still get either OSU OT Russel Okung or OU DT Gerald McCoy in the draft anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterhill Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Well that sucks. Too bad most fans are too homeristic or near sighted to see what is best for the team. Winning? Why? Most of this team wont' be here in the next 2 years when a REAL staff gets in here and replaces them with good players. Coaching? You can kick just about all of them out the door as well. Bottom line, losing from here on out for a higher ranking in the draft standings is whats best for the team if you dont play to win....then why bother to even board the plane??? maybe the Bills can see if they can just shut the season down...forfeit the rest to assure the highest possible pick......since no good NFL players have ever been drafter past pick 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Years ago weren't you arguing that they should try to win every game, even when the season was basically over. That was pre meds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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