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The Vikings flat out look like the more physical team so far...

Lucky...But we'll take it...

OMG... 12 men on 4th and one when it looked like they were not even going to run a play... Good grief...

Bridgewater is clearly a bit inconsistent...All the Bills need to do on D is what every team does to us...Stop the run and short passing game...

What is up with the run D?

Terrible 1st quarter... Way to come out strong at home...

Seriously... 3rd and one at home against the freaking Vikings and we can't pick it up... Now Freddie is hurt...Perfect...

Nothing new here...

You've got to be kidding me...

Definitely a fumble... Bills find another way to squander opportunity...

Totally agree... The fact that this kid cant seem to figure out a way to properly use CJ is proof enough...Spiller has 245 LESS yards from scrimmage in 5 MORE games under Hackett than he had in Chan's last year...Even the ankle injury can't explain that kind of drop-off...That's 37 yards a game if you're keeping track...Ridiculous...

Agreed... The refs did not help mind you... But we had our chances to make plays...Especially on Defense...Plus the turnovers on Offense were huge...

It could only happen in Buffalo...

It's easy... According to our genius HC you don't want to risk your back-up center no matter how bad your OG's look, or how good an OG he may be...

Interesting...I think we are both trying to argue over-generalization...But it's two different things...And I don't disagree with you...It is dumb to say Gronk and Brady's dominance is a Bills thing...But it's equally dumb to say they dominate every NFL team... And I'm not trying to analyze anything btw...I was disputing an over-generalization with statistical facts from THIS season...And in no way am I saying it's ONLY the Bills that get owned by the two...Hell they just owned Cincy the previous week...That would be an over-generalization as well...I am saying the Bills usually do get owned by them...But that does not make them exclusive... To say that Brady and Gronk simply dominate everyone is factually incorrect...Furthermore, though they certainly have been dominate over the course of their careers often, there is VERY recent evidence that they can be at the very least contained, slowed down, held below 360 yards and 4 TD's, whatever...Oakland managed to do it at NE, and the Bills could not with our top 5 Defense at home...That is not to say that you can stop them completely or anything like that...It is saying however that merely stating that Brady and Gronk make mincemeat out of every team, therefor that's an excuse for why they continuously do it to the Bills...well...That's just not even close to the real story...They are not super-humans...And since the beginning of the 2013 season in non-Bills games Brady has been held under 250 yards passing 10 times in 19 games total...Hell the Bills even did it once last year...Albeit during a rainstorm while the Pats were running the ball up and down the field on them... The real story is certainly that Brady and Gronk generally own the Buffalo Bills...And if there is one team in the entire NFL that should be able to come up with something...anything...to slow down those two one would assume it would be the Bills...Especially knowing they have been destroyed by those two endlessly over these years...I mean...I will say this much...without knowing for certain I would geuess that no team in the NFL has been destroyed more than the Bills have by Brady and Gronk...Could be wrong in that assumption...But it can't be far off...But...While other teams...not every team mind you...but some other teams...seem to be able to come up with Defensive schemes to at least slow down those two, the Bills continue to come up short... To summarize this point I'm trying to make...The statement that Brady and Gronk make mincemeat out of every NFL team is an over-generalization...The same way saying only the Bills get burned by the two is... On a side note, over-generalization is literally the main weapon for the dim-witted...Over-generalization is...at least usually...nonfactual...And in this case there is VERY recent evidence proving that Brady and Gronk do not in fact make mincemeat out of every NFL team...every game they play...And there is also recent evidence that other NFL teams have fallen prey to them as well...

The quote I responded to was that Brady and Gronk make mincemeat out of every team... That is clearly not the case...Especially so far this year...Period... They can and have been contained relatively well at times...Put any spin you want in it... The Bills continuously fail to do what some other teams have done... That's not taking anything away from Brady and Gronk who are clearly very good and have been for some time... But simply saying they kill everyone and the Bills were just the next victims is not close to the real story...

Schwartz and Chan! Be still my beating heart... Good greif...

Interesting point... Week 1 at Miami...Brady is 29/56 (a whopping 51.7%!!!) for 249 yds...1 TD...No INT's...Gronk has 4 catches for 40 yards and a TD... Week 3 vs Oakland at home Brady goes 24/37 for 234 yds...1 TD...No INT's...Gronk has 3 catches for 44 yards and a TD... Week 4 at KC Brady is 14/23 for 159 yds...1 TD...2 INT's...And Gronk gets 2 catches for 31 yds and a TD late in the game (not from Brady)... This is not cherry picking...This was week 1, 3, and 4 THIS season...1/2 of the season so far... So I think the statement should be that Brady and Gronk make mincemeat out of SOME teams...But more specifically they regularly make mincemeat out of the Buffalo Bills...

Well...

Agreed... No question figuring out a way to slow down Gronk should be obvious to any NFL coach...To the Bills coaches it should be a requirement... My comments were not meant to suggest that the Bills coaches had good strategies overall because clearly they did not...The comments were more based on the fact that the Bills continue to squander the opportunities they do get against the Pats...Then coupled with the poor strategies you get more of the same blow-out losses we have all come to expect when we play NE... One thing you can rest assured about is the fact that I'm not a Marrone fan...So it's easy for me to be critical of him and his staff...I did however get SO frustrated watching these missteps and mistakes by our players this Sunday...For example...I can't blame Preston Brown for that critical 3rd down catch by Gronk because that was a terrible defensive call...I can however blame Duke for the bonehead play that could have taken 7 points off the board... Plenty of blame to go around...Like there usually is when the Bills play the Pats...No one steps up...Most of them just wilt...

Sorry up front for cherry-picking your post...But who is "everybody." I think most Bills understand the EJ pick was an organizational decision...Whaley had a part in it...But so did Buddy, Marrone, Hackett, even Russ...I don't think everybody is burning Whaley about the EJ pick...Maybe it's just me...But I think most Bills fans are more than willing to give Doug a pass on that one...Especially considering they netted Kiko in the trade down...

Or if Duke actually makes a play on a ball he could have intercepted instead of pushing the WR and giving the Pats 7 points...Or if Robey gets a pick 6 on a play he read perfectly...Or if Graham properly plays the post he was in perfect position to defend...etc...etc... While I really like these All-22 reports, and there is no question the Bills coaches are completely failing in many areas including getting Sammy more involved, this game basically came down to the Bills predictable inability to step-up and make plays vs the Pats...Plays that were available to be made...Especially on Defense... Brady is Brady...Gronk is Gronk...they are going to make some plays...It's a given...The Bills are not immune to it...But they had their opportunities to step up and make some big plays in this game and they failed miserably...Like they usually do vs the Pats...And the beat goes on...

Good analysis by the OP... I've never really been a fan of Marrone's...And I don't think any Bills fan likes Hackett at this point...I agree totally about the predictability of our Offense, and I also agree these two just don't have what it takes to come up with something different...The Offense looks like the football version of jamming a square peg into a round hole at times...It's even more frustrating concerning the running game where we obviously have talent at RB, but our ex O-lineman HC can't seem to figure out a way to block for them consistently...

And Winston does seem to be a special kind of stupid... The kid makes Johnny Football look like a Rhodes Scholar... At the absolute very least he seems to be tremendously immature...