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Absolutely Vick comes back just like 2009. Do you remember all the anti-Vick protests? When the Bills played the Eagles in 2011, Vick's 3rd season back, there were still protestors across the street near the Mobil station at the corner of Abbott & Southwestern.

Well, he was from New Jersey, born there, died there.

Mike Vick came back from prison after being out 2 years. Watson is a lot better than Vick. I see no reason to believe Watson will be out of the league in 3 years.

We never did see Jimmy Spagnola & Tony Siragusa in the same room. I wonder if this means no more JS posts?

mook n. Italian-American short form of malook, motherfxxxxx 1. a person of little social standing, one not worthy of respect. 2. an affectionate term for a regular guy, one who is unpretentious. 3. an incompetent person. We don't pay mooks. I think that anyone who thinks the Giants are trading Barkley, so they can put more pressure on Daniel Jones is a mook, and I don't mean a regular guy. At least we didn't get another S. Barkley to Buffalo thread.

This would have been more appropriate.

Baker wanted to be the #1 pick & play for Cleveland. He would have never have said no to Cleveland. The player who there were rumors that he didn't want to be in Cleveland was Josh Rosen & we all know how well he did in Arizona, Miami, Tampa Bay, San Francisco, Atlanta & now in his backyard.

I think it's more the other way around: If the Panthers are trading for Mayfield, then they will demand that Cleveland takes Darnold, who is going to make the same as Mayfield on the 5th year option. That way there's no need for Cleveland to be paying part of Mayfield's salary like if Mayfield is traded elsewhere.

That's mentioned in this Athletic article: https://theathletic.com/news/baker-mayfield-trade-panthers-browns/8j1Jy8uFbsSp/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983 Carolina's current quarterback depth chart features the No. 3 pick in the 2018 draft, Sam Darnold, rookie third-round pick Matt Corral and P.J. Walker. The Panthers could try to get Cleveland to take Darnold in the deal. Like Mayfield, Darnold is set to make a guaranteed $18.8 million after the Panthers picked up his fifth-year option.

Boettger will start the season on PUP & the team will decide based on the play of others whether to activate him in season, IR him, or injury settle him.

It looks like Zach didn't impress the Jets reporter from The Athletic: https://theathletic.com/3358264/2022/06/10/jets-zach-wilson-risers-fallers/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983 Faller: Zach Wilson, quarterback This is sure to evoke hysteria. There’s no reason to panic yet, though. It’s only June. Nothing that happens now really matters. Training camp will be the true tell of whether Wilson is ready to take a second-year jump. But, if we’re being honest, Wilson hasn’t been overly impressive through the four media-open OTAs. The 22-year-old has struggled with his accuracy. His decision-making is questionable at best, and it has led to interceptions (one on Wednesday, two on Thursday) and near interceptions. He’s thrown several passes that, in a game, would have led to the near decapitation of his receivers. It hasn’t all been bad. Wilson threw an impressive deep ball to D.J. Montgomery, who beat rookie Sauce Gardner, on Wednesday. He connected with Corey Davis for a red-zone touchdown on Thursday. His best pass of any media-open OTA came on a laser deep crosser to Garrett Wilson, who dropped it as he hit the ground. You just hoped to see a little bit more conviction, decisiveness and average baseline to this point. It’s important to note that these OTAs are about learning and the media aren’t in the meeting rooms. The Jets aren’t worried and see signs there Wilson is progressing. He’s trusting his reads much more this year and when he misses a throw, he knows exactly what happened and where he should have gone — that wasn’t the case in 2021. The Jets also have so many new pieces on offense, they’re only running eight first-team, 11-on-11 drills per practice, and the scripted seven-on-seven periods aren’t real football. That’s likely contributing to some of Wilson’s struggles, too. A strong string of minicamp practices will ease any concerns brought forth by OTAs.

America's Got Talent is not on tonight, Thursday, or tomorrow night, 6/10. The next new episode is next Tuesday, 6/14. The yahoos at Yahoo sports needs to get their facts straight.

At least he wasn't replaced by Josh Allen hater Bomani Jones. I'm surprised his replacement isn't Judy Battista, who is already the insider on CBS owned Paramount +'s Inside the NFL.

Here's a better link that actually talks about his retirement: https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/will-ulmer-contract-retired/ The kid is living the dream. When I was 24 I wanted to retire. How many 24 year olds get to retire? Now he can sit back without having to get up early. I'm retired and I didn't get out of bed until 11 today. I guess he did the same.

Fortunately, since we drafted Josh in 2018, the hypothetical was never possible. If we had drafted Rosen, by now I'd probably be willing to take on Watson, although I wouldn't have agreed with giving that many top draft choices away. I never care about players salaries (they're doing something I can't do & I'm willing to pay to see them perform), so the contract wouldn't have been a factor. For the record I was all for signing Vick when the Bills were contemplating it. Players come & go, the team is forever. 1st off, I don't believe in boycotts, so I definitely wouldn't start now. I root for the team, not many individuals on their own. I've been to 262 Bills games over the last 49 years, so I wouldn't drop the team now. There have been a few players that I have rooted for the team while they played on it who have been pretty bad actors off the field. Obviously OJ turned out to be the worst post Bills career. I didn't go & burn any programs that OJ was in. While he was on the Bills, I thought Richie Incognito was the biggest dirtbag I can remember as an active player-and we acquired the bum TWICE! I didn't see many fans jump ship when we signed Richie. We once signed an addict when he came out of prison (Reggie Rogers for vehicular homicide.) He eventually died because of his addictions. Moulds had a domestic violence incident when he was a Bill. Bennett went to jail for a sexual assault in Buffalo after his playing days. The list is too long to continue, you get the point. So, in all honesty, I'd continue to root for the Bills & hope for a Super Bowl win no matter how low an opinion I had about any player off the field.

I can't believe how many people in this thread don't understand the definition of a playoff drought. It means no playoffs. Kyle Williams was on the 2017 Bills team that made the playoffs. The drought era ended at the 2016 season.

These are the current odds at Caesars. Just to give a reference point, the odds have gone down since the season ended. On February 17th, I got +425 at Caesars on the Bills winning the AFC. Buffalo Bills SUPER BOWL WINNER +650 CONFERENCE WINNER +350 DIVISION WINNER -200

https://sportsnaut.com/new-york-giants-negotiating-with-ken-dorsey-oc/

Kelly was 37 when he retired. No way he'd be playing at 43 or 44.

Phil Hansen is on the Wall & even though he didn't play on teams as good as some of the ones Hansen played on, Williams played longer than Hansen & IMO had a better career.

For those of you too young to remember, Kemp & Ferguson (both WOFers) are the 3rd & 4th best QBs we've seen. Fitz doesn't come close to either of those 2 and if he hadn't been traded, Lamonica would be on the best Bills QB list too ahead of Fitzpatrick.

I guarantee that Kyle Williams (13 years with the Bills) will be on the WOF at the new stadium.

Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith, Fred Jackson, etc and current favorite Josh Allen who has already played as many seasons with the Bills as Fitz.

I just looked at the QB depth charts: https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchartpos/QB There's not a lot of room for any QB to just come in now & make a team. Seattle has the weakest QB group in the league as far as roster spots & no high to mid 2022 draft choices. Meanwhile Mayfield & Garoppolo are still looking to be traded with it looking more like Garoppolo will stay in SF unless Lance shows massive improvement early in year 2. That means that for all intents & purposes guys like Kaepernick & 2018 QB draft bust Josh Rosen are not going to be on NFL rosters this season. Their best shots are to join a practice squad after injuries. I think it's time for Rosen to get a real job and admit to himself he was the biggest mistake of the 2018 draft. It's also time for Kaepernick to look at playing in a spring league next year & either light it up & hope to sign a 2023 NFL contract or go out and get a real job too.