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But do you trust the process?

I've never really put too much weight into the changes that will be going on with the club seats but to me the biggest concern would have to be the changing demographics in the 100 level seats. I know those seats won't have $50K PSL's but I'm anticipating them to be anywhere from $5K-$10K depending on where in the 100 level and that will be enough to steer a decent amount of people away. I'm not just pulling that out of thin air. There are tons of Bills fan groups and pages and accounts on Facebook and Twitter filled with long-time season ticket holders in that area that say they are ready to walk away if the PSL's are going to be that much. Sure some of them may end up buying tickets in the nosebleeds and end zones(which I don't think the PSL's will be too bad there) but it is going to create a logjam of fans fighting over those seats that won't be able to keep their current seating area in the new stadium. Am I wrong to expect this to be the case?

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It's all good, I don't disagree with you there and respect your fandom. I still have a hard time picturing the stadium full to capacity indefinitely going forward if the Bills encounter some more lean years again(not talking about ticket sales, just butts in seats). Once again I understand the business side to all of it and I'm not shocked this is where we are but as a fan it's just disappointing the time is here, I mean we all knew it was coming yes but I don't think every fan has to love it and just take it with all smiles and rainbows. There is going to be a lot of venting going on from now right up until the new stadium is opened. Eventually it will die down and people will move on with it but right now it definitely feels like a culture shock.

Obviously a little bit of a generalization on my part, of course every situation is different but from my experience of people I knew in real life it was definitely that type of fan that wanted nothing to do with going to the games during the drought years. That doesn't mean that there are not true fans who have club seats etc. so I didn't mean to offend you personally. I was speaking from a generalized point of view. I still think there's some truth to it but honestly I didn't mean to come across insulting.

I'm not the one disputing the Bills are going to be moving anywhere, my post was a response to your comment saying it will be impossible to ever get single game tickets ever again once the new stadium opens. Even with PSL's...once the going gets tough the whine and cheese crowd won't give two S***'s about going to the games anymore and tickets will be on the resale market. Not sure what the pricing will be but it will not be impossible to ever get single game tickets to a Bills game in the new stadium. Sure maybe in the first few years as we are still riding the high on these glory years with Allen but there's no way that excitement will be sustained when the Bills fall off again. Look at how packed the Sabres arena is these days! I completely understand the business side to all of this. It is what it is but I am speaking from the perspective of a fan, it's just a shame this is where things are heading but it's unavoidable. I get your a business guy and see it from that perspective but your avatar pic is of Kirby Jackson for christ's sake lol. Surely you still must have some old school fandom in you deep down from the glory days that can understand why so many people hate this. These are just completely different times of being a Sports fan that we grew up in.

Hollywood's really running out of ideas these days

Josh Allen won't be in his prime indefinitely. As soon as the Bills go back to sucking It's not going to be the rich folks selling out that stadium on a week to week basis. I'm still curious how this thing plays out in the long haul.

Yup I remember when being a sports fan was blue collar entertainment but it has drastically shifted to being an Elitist hobby. All while the actual product has gone downhill.

That's the other caveat in all of this....EVERYTHING is insanely expensive right now. So many people are struggling to afford their monthly groceries etc. that it makes it just about impossible to justify paying through the roof to go to a football game. It would be one thing if these prices were going into effect a decade ago but everything is so overpriced right now it makes it easy to cut out going to things like concerts and football games.

Believe me I get it...Nobody understands the NFL is a business more than me

It's one thing if Christmas falls on a Saturday or Sunday but to start putting NFL games on a Wednesday because it's Christmas is just another Greedy Cash Grab from the NFL...$$$$$$$$ all they care about

Very sorry to hear this news...RIP

Crock of S*** but I'm not surprised. The NFL is continuing to trend in a direction where they are going to lose me as a fan.

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I never knew that about Chyna either until I saw the A&E Biography on her but yeah I don't remember her ever repping the Bills either. It would be awesome if Gorilla was a Bills fan but I feel like we would have heard something if that were the case. Lex Luger is an OP Native and is a huge Bills fan. When you think about timeline Gorilla I'm sure would have been out of the Rochester area way before Bills football was relevant so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't have any Bills connections

I would assume the majority

It wasn't a coincidence. There's more to it than that. Long story short Combs supposedly had a hit on Tupac that was going to be handled by the Crips. It wasn't supposed to take place the night of the fight but then that altercation happened at the Casino and that escalated into them taking care of it that night. That is the theory behind it.

Yeah I remember being furious at the time when Jauron said that but honestly I don't think there's a problem with a coach saying that when I think about it now. I think part of the problem was when I grew up watching football there was still a lot of old school bravado coaches that didn't talk like that but we have also seen how coaches talk about how they are going to win the whole thing etc. and that doesn't mean that it's going to pan out for them either. The truth is it really is hard to win in the NFL! But I think fans were so fed up with Jauron for so many other reasons it was easy to pile on him when he started talking about how it was hard to win in the NFL. There's no way any rational person can compare McDermott to Jauron over making that statement.

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I stand corrected, thank you it was McDuffie I was thinking of

That's fair but I also remember him making a handful of big stops too. A cornerback is similar to an Offensive Lineman when they get beat by a rusher who gets to the QB it's going to stand out much more than the good plays they are making throughout the game.

Good news for us. Sneed was a good player. I thought he was the unsung hero for the Chiefs in the Super Bowl this year

No I'm still pissed about the incoming PSL's