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Thank you, I was getting worried there for a second nobody was going to mention that squad

This reminds me a little bit of the fighter Buster Douglas. Had all the talent in the world but couldn't keep himself in shape. I remember his trainer saying his biggest downfall wasn't the drugs or partying lifestyle that bring down most guys but he could never stay out of the kitchen.

RIP Jimmy, gotta admit even though I didn't know him personally reading about this made me get kind of emotional. Being a true Bills fan is like belonging to a lifelong fraternity. It makes me depressed a fan like that never got to witness a Lombardi parade in Buffalo.

Just for something different, I don't recall this ever being discussed here or at least anytime too recently. In my lifetime the first three guys that I think of are Kelly, Favre, and Big Ben. If I was ranking them I would probably have to go with #4 as my #1

Considering how the modern NFL rules are geared towards a more efficient passing game/higher points being scored, I think what the 2013 Seahawks accomplished was just as, if not more impressive, than the 2000 Ravens and 2002 Buccaneers. I've still got 85 Bears as the greatest defense of all time though

"Larry Bird was so good you could wear his jersey in the hood"- Charles Barkley "From Second Street to Bourbon Street"- this became the rallying cry for the 85 Bears in training camp to get to Super Bowl 20 because after practice they would hit the local bars which were located on Second Street and the Super Bowl was being played in New Orleans that year

new blood would be nice this year.....Bengals, Panthers, Cardinals would all be fine with me this year

Would be very interesting if Hughes was one of the guys making comments because him and Mario had become very good friends off the field the last couple years. I follow both guys on twitter and they spend alot of time hanging out in the offseason

I would be ok with either Cardinals or Panthers winning it all, something different this year. Feel the same way about the Bengals too but I don't have the faith in them getting the job done

I'm all for stability but I just don't trust Rex as that guy. Not impressed with his overall body of work at all as Head Coach. This season was a freaking circus and Rex doesn't show any desire to change his methods

It's just like Michael Jordan used to say when they asked him about what his favorite championship was... "The next one"-MJ

So I enjoy basketball yet I cannot have a favorite team to follow and support because my city doesn't have one? And the same thing can be said for the guys on here that like baseball....I was the first to point out here that you can't claim multiple teams and agree 100% against the people that mentioned other NFL teams but your argument against having allegiances to the NBA and MLB is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen written on a message board and we all know that says alot.

This is what kills me with this franchise. We have shot ourselves in the foot so many times with poor drafting. The drafting has gotten much better in more recent years but I don't know if I will ever get over the drafts of those particular years.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall during that conversation. The young Jim Kelly would have most likely told you to F*** Right Off

Just a FYI it doesn't count when you claim two teams in one sport, I've noticed that a couple times in this thread

Chicago Bulls last 3peat in 96, 97, 98....I can't claim the first 3 as I wasn't truly a "fan" yet but I actually really started getting into the NBA and the Bulls the first year MJ retired so I "suffered" for two seasons before experiencing the glory

He is already on there, and he more than enough warrants it. He was actually one of the very first guys from the Super Bowl years to go up there

We need more than locker room guys, we need guys who have IT and can produce on the field first and foremost. That's the best leadership you can have. When the game is on the line who is that guy we turn to and say hey you have to make a play for us right now. At the NFL level you need to have self-motivated, driven players who are competitive as all hell. If you need somebody in the locker room to give the other guys pep talks then the mental makeup of the entire team is soft. Although very brief clips, one of my favorite scenes from the Bills 30 for 30 the other night was when Steve Tasker was talking about all the talent they had on the team and then he said they weren't afraid to tell you that they were good either and then they showed a clip of Cornelius Bennett on the sideline going "I'm for real goddammit" and then to a clip of Bruce proclaiming 'Give me that defensive player of the year award" It gave me goosebumps, that's the kind of attitude that takes you to Super Bowls. A belief and confidence a guy has in himself. Those 90's teams were LOADED with players like that

You cannot be serious right now?

I have a gut feeling Pittsburgh could end up going from the AFC

watch the very beginning of this video for the proof

That ending was cool and all but I was alittle disappointed after hearing there was this amazing surprise ending because that scenario where Norwood's kick being doctored to going through the upright and Van Miller calling the Bills Super Bowl win had already been done exactly the same going all the way back to the 1991 Buffalo Bills highlight film

FWIW in some of the articles I've read the Bickering Bills stuff is brought up in the film, Thurman also talks about the lost helmet incident in Super Bowl 26. When it comes down to it there are just too many realities regarding the things that went wrong during those years as well for them to not present that part of the story. I do think the partying stuff gets swept under the rug though

Not at all on my part, I'm super excited for this 30 for 30 and have actually been wanting to see a 30 for 30 on this subject since the series started, I'm still almost kind of shocked this became a reality. There is so much more to those Bills teams than the partying off the field and I can't wait to enjoy every minute of it. My point was that IT IS part of the story however and I just don't think any of that is going to be looked at in this documentary. I disagree with those saying its all going to be cheerful and gloss over the negative parts of losing four Super Bowls. I guarantee there will be some painful stuff to endure as well

Yeah with the Bills players from that era its very interesting to me. There were always alot of stories about the likes of Lawrence Taylor and alot of the 90s Cowboys players, etc. but the Bills never had any of their shenanigans leak out publicly. I think the only reason Bills fans know how crazy things were behind the scenes is because of how small a town Buffalo really is and a lot of fans witnessed the Bills partying their ass off firsthand. I know of at least one guy I trust 100% who saw guys out the nignt before the first Dallas Super Bowl at 4am getting after it and I've heard countless other secondhand stories over the years.