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But they do. Most play vs the elite competition. So they have seen the speed, the techniques, etc. I don't think there is much question Allen is learning more than most on the job. It is not an excuse, it is the baggage he arrived with. And yeah sorry, but Wyoming is far from the best places to grow and learn football acumen. Brain training requires experience and Allen has had less than most. I'm willing to wait and see.

Agreed. This was my thought at the beginning of the season and that hasn't changed. One good thing is they are learning to win close games. Not always, but far more often than years past. This is Allen's second year in a pro offense. Most qbs learn in college, he's learning in the NFL. The coaches know this and are calling plays accordingly. That might mean they don't always call the best play but Allen must learn each type of play. He has proven he can learn and improve. Improving the talent around him will help in future. Let's give it time.

I'll discuss. Allen needs work on the short game and limiting stupid errors. Like, a college career amount of work. They are doing that. I think winning a bunch has come as a little surprise and sure is helpful for the whole team's growth together. Allen's clutch moments and the D have brought those wins. Once the basics are second nature to Allen, they will add more. If you want to enjoy it, have some patience and enjoy the improvements. If, instead, you want to bang drums then I have a nice set of Slingerlands you can play if you don't mind traveling to Ontario.

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"Ignorant fan broadcasts ignorance."

So by your logic the bills always collapse and therefore they should get rid of yet another coach that does the same (supposedly). Maybe the problem is the coaching changes. Let's try something different - consistency. And they will, no doubt.

I can't laugh hard enough at this nonsense. You're killin me here!

Tre White's twitter handle won something?

you expect too much. the offense is improving. it is going to take time. time for new players to fit in. time for the oline to improve. time for Allen to eliminate mistakes and improve. right now, the number one things they need to learn is winning. so far, so good.

DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO FEEL!!!

Even if it is self inflicted, that does not take away the amazing feat of saving Lois from the train at the last second. no less skill is required regardless of why she is tied to the tracks. Same goes for Allen. yes stop throwing ints but that does not take away from the skill and playmaking required to score in comeback mode.

there is no insight to be found...

i'm going to say that he needs more experience. pretty much every qb in the league has more, considering his college team and competition. now what are YOU going to say???!??!

i think he will. most of the time one must learn by doing.

Completely different players.

Allen has much to learn. No one should be surprised...he has very little experience compared to most. Give him time.

There is only one way to learn this stuff: experience. Allen has less than most. Give him some time.

yes. "should have" is a baseless statement.

"should have" by what measure? seems like a misleading statement. i agree they can grow up offensively, and therefore they "should have" done exactly what they did.

Twice the rb? How do you measure that, exactly?

I was on board from that first phone call from Beane. Not sure what it was exactly, but there was a familiarity between them, and Josh's response sounded sincere. It sounded like this was the plan all along, and Josh was in on it. Beane: "you ready to be a Bill?" Josh: "yes sir!" me: "this kid gets it"

my take is that they are progressing slowly and carefully with Allen. one thing at a time... that is an effective way to teach and learn. they are focused on the short passing game right now and are seeing vast improvement. i don't think they need more than that, they were winning with the short passes, no need to get aggressive until they feel Allen is ready for that. so yes i agree i want them to go for it. but i think the reason they do not is educationally based.

i'd like for him to be good - Miami sucking is just boring. i prefer rivals that matter.

i don't get why Miami is involved. if they are in sell mode, they need picks.

I ignored them because there were too many. I'd say no more than three are necessary.