C.Biscuit97

Insane but it’s a team coming off a SB. Probably hoping they will be low 1sts and maybe it’s puts them over the top. Having a shut down cb can really help your pass rush. I wont have done it but it’s not like it’s Miami making the trade.

My last ever CK posts 1) if you say he’s not good enough to be one of the 64 nfl qbs without these, you’re full of crap, have other motives, or just know nothing about football. The 49ers were a joke his last there where Jeremy Kerley was their number 1 receiver and they were terrible after CK. Yet, he had 16 tds to 4 ints. Of course, some folks here think Matt Barkley is a good qb. 2). He’s never getting a shot again. In a league that gives second chances to women beaters, it’s a terrible message. It’s also hilarious what some fans choose to get outrage about. 3) I don’t care what a player believes politically because why would I? Personally, I’m fine with Incognito (who probably shouldn’t be in the nfl and has done a million worse things than CK) and Bosa talking about they love Trump as I am with CK and Rosen. Why this bothers people is insane? Some fans ignore awful things players do yet this triggers them. I want the best team of non scumbags. CK is a better qb (the lay-off is a killer I will say) than Matt Barkley. 4) as much as I think nfl owners are cowards and hypocrites because they just drafted Joe Mixon and Jeffrey Simmons. But as with everything, it’s a business. And while women beaters don’t get some fans as fired up as a guy silently taking a knee, right now, as stupid as it is, it’s bad for their business. So cowardly but that’s all the nfl is about. He’s done so hopefully he is using his money wisely.

Haha. I actually really like you and PTR but man, you are the biggest homers. Literally if someone compliments another team, they love that team. And stupid me for thinking that Belichick knows what he’s doing. Clearly, he’s an idiot. I’m excited because this is the 15th year in a row you and PTR predicted the collapse of the Pats. And talk about splitting hairs about Qbs. Basically, it’s Brady and Big Ben and a bunch of scrubs. Why is so hard to say NE has a great D? You guys argue about the dumbest things. And as much as I hate their run, probably the person on the Pats side is winning the debate.

He has 6 tds and 3 ints, was 2-2, and got pulled. He never really got a chance to grow. But I think Allen should be the better qb long term.

I hate the Pats but what point does making up things serve? Again, it is widely acknowledged that we have a really good defense but the Pats are at a record setting pace. Just be honest dude. Hyde made a pro bowl here. So did plenty of other guys. And sure there are some average players who get the Pats bump - Danny Amedola comes to mind. But it’s no different than our SB teams.

That’s an insane bar to set.

I really am liking ESPN these days.

Insane to do this now. I wasn’t a Metcalf fan but I knew Seattle would be a great situation for him.

Minus yards passing, EJ had better numbers than Allen in his second year. But as I thought with EJ, it would be stupid to bench any young qb. I also believe Allen plays the way I wish EJ did.

He was having one of the best seasons of his career last year before the injuries caught up. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00.htm i guess I’m the minority but I still think when healthy, he’s a good qb. He just May never be healthy again. It’s also why Allen needs to be careful as a runner.

Because I’m rational and don’t live in pretend land. We have a really good defense. They have a defense that is on a historical level right now so of course, they will get attention. They are in the SB every year so of course they get praised. You act like it’s some conspiracy. When you are in the midst of one of the greatest dynasties in sports history, you are going to get a lot of attention. instead of pretending like they aren’t really good, let’s him we get better and start getting our own attention. You are a great fan but you have to stop with the persecution complex.

Criticism is a lot different than cheap shots. I wasn’t a Tyrod fan but I respect what he did here even if he was limited.

Yeah but the issue is if they aren’t truly elite, you completely handcuff your team for years. I want Allen to show he’s either the guy or clearly isn’t because it sucks to be stuck in the middle.

Yup, let’s make fun of a good dude who won more games than he lost here. Why are some fans so petty? Sadly, that is so true. Fitz still had a career better than 80% of quarterbacks. He just always comes up short. Phil Rivers is like the franchise qb version of Fitz now.

So is Allen a clown? Because he’s on pace for 16 tds and has more ints than Td. antonio brown is a clown. But why name call on a guy because he’s not an elite qb? Seems pretty silly.

He might not be special but a 26 td to 9 int ratio with playoff berths isn’t garbage.

It’s so weird because he was pretty awesome his second year. I also don’t think Vrabel is helping the development. He also struggles to stay healthy.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MariMa01.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BarkMa00.htm come on Dr, there’s no comparison between them. Mariota hasn’t lived up to being a starting qb but Barkley is a dime a dozen backup. It’s weird how he has become so overrated here.

Agreed. Mariota isn’t a franchise qb but he is far from a clown. He has an 89 career qb rating (Barkley has a 68 but he is clearly better!). Mariota will probably get a chance to move to another team to compete for a job and make a lot of money being a backup. but I definitely would take Allen over him right now.

I pray you don’t really believe this because it’s insane. He always have been good. That why Belichick paid him a lot of money. Just insane Bills fans didn’t like him because he didn’t smile at the draft. Stop. It’s amazing this inferiority complex some of you have. Gilmore has been always been good and now he’s become great. NE has a slightly better secondary. And our secondary and defense gets plenty of love. You do realize that while we have a very good defense, NE’s is borderline all time great. It’s not made up. I always thought he was a bit overrated when he was here but he will get a job quickly. I think everyone agreed with what he said but it was pretty stupid to put it out in the media.

What do these takes accomplish? He’s a clown? And you are insane if you don’t think he is better than Matt Barkley. But overall, it accomplishes nothing to trade for him.

Who would be good on that team? Fitz was pretty good on TB last year (100 qb rating). Rosen has been in the worst situations in the nfl his first 2 years. Their defense is awful, traded Fitzpatrick, traded their LT, have no receiver talent. It is one of the worst situations in a long time.

How did Allen have a better game than Jackson against Bengals? That’s simply not true. I do agree their schedule has been weak but he has looked pretty good and definitely improved. I actually had Allen and Jackson rated on the same level when they came out. It will be interesting how they both continue to develop.

Skip Bayless would be proud of these ? takes.

Interesting question. I think Stafford is good but there’s a ceiling there. Allen is going to have a hard time reaching MS’s numbers but he could have more Ws. The problem with a guy like MS is you are going to pay him a ton money but he isn’t the guy to significantly affect winning consistently. So while I’d love to have a franchise guy, MS is kinda the dividing line between elite and good. But I’d sign up for Allen being MS good right now. But part of the problem is his contract limits them.