C.Biscuit97

Interesting question. I think Stafford is good but there’s a ceiling there. Allen is going to have a hard time reaching MS’s numbers but he could have more Ws. The problem with a guy like MS is you are going to pay him a ton money but he isn’t the guy to significantly affect winning consistently. So while I’d love to have a franchise guy, MS is kinda the dividing line between elite and good. But I’d sign up for Allen being MS good right now. But part of the problem is his contract limits them.

He wasn’t even good in college.

Hey, I wish we could do that but it would be insane to trade a former 1st rounder who is 24 for a 5th or lower. Well, that would be dumb. I like those guys but Howard is so much talented than all of them combined. TB is a pretty stupid organization. I could easily see Howard having an Ebron rebirth on another team.

Minnesota is by far the best. Good call. I’m sorry I’m not that excited about 14 points last week. But Philly will be a great test. Jackson’s passing numbers are skewed last year because he played in every game but wasn’t the full time starter. Allen probably still averaged more but there was so narrative that he was a far superior passer. I always argued that they were a lot closer than our fans wanted to admit. And Jackson has taken his game to a level that I wasn’t sure he’d get too. He is definitely in the MVP conversation. Game winning drives is starting to become an awful stat or needs to be adjusted. Like if you suck all game but have a great defense and score a late td isn’t that impressive. Also if you are on a good team and are a good qb, you stomp a team out early so you don’t have to comeback. For example, Brady has 9 game winning drives in the last 6 years and zero this year.

It’s just funny how people let their biases affect how they see things (this is really for you John). Lamar was a better qb in a better conference in college. He had better passing numbers than Allen as a rookie. He has far superior numbers this year, 96 qb rating, 251 passing yards/ game, and 460 yards rushing. He is without a doubt an MVP candidate and yet some posters will still call him a running back playing qb. How is Allen the best? I mean I want him to be but what is the actual evidence? Honest question. What has been Allen’s best game against a good team?

I loved him in the draft. He was breaking out last year before he got hurt. Arians’ offense doesn’t really use TEs and Brate is another good one. I don’t know why the Bucs would trade him when his value is so low but I’d love him here. I think he can still be a star. Also, I’d take Brate too. He’s good.

And this is what I always worried about with Allen. We are just going to keep hearing about raw he is and how he needs a little more time. Ive grown to really like how he carries himself and he has shown some progression in the short game. But he is so inconsistent and I just hope that’s not going to be his whole career.

I mean this honestly. When will allowed to want more from Allen? Am I bad fan because I want our highest drafted qb to have more tds than ints?

High pick qb, playing on a team with a great defense, and winning games. Jets fans would just say he wins but ignore the overwhelming evidence that he was along for the ride. He would have “comebacks” but it would beecause he was terrible all game and the defense kept it close. Long way way to go to see that for Allen and I think he is more physically gifted.

Oh yeah for sure. But that shovel pass is the one play most fans could make. Hell screens and slants have been difficult for our qbs to complete over the years.

We scored 14 points. Yup and that’s kinda my point. I forgot the undrafted guy last year from SF who would have monster games last year. Why can’t the highest drafted guy in Bills history? and I get it. We’re winning. I just want to see a complete game from our potential franchise qb.

And people don’t think he’s their number 1. He is a really good 2 or 1B.

The funny thing is Reid can somehow not screw it up and win a SB, he will go down as a great coach. It’s crazy for a game or 2 can do for your legacy.

It’s called the QB stat padder.

I mean we know how Sanchez turned out but he went 5th overall and had similar numbers to Allen. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SancMa00.htm I think Philly will be a nice test for him. They are struggling a bit but still have a bunch of talent.

I generally agree. However, it would be great to see a monster game once against a good team from Allen. This feels a little Mark sanchez like. And that’s fine because I love a playoff run but it makes me nervous long term.

Honest question: if Mayfield or Mahomes are the Bills qb, what’s our record? Any different? And you can never know but I bet we beat NE with Mahomes.

But you were kinda putting down what Mahomes is doing. He doesn’t have his LT, pro bowl C, McCoy, Hill, Watkins have been hurt and he’s still producing. Also, his defense is ? so he is under crazy pressure to carry them. imagine if the Bears drafted him.

273 yards would be Allen’s career high and it was against a good team in Houston. But it I guess he set the bar so high so expectations are out of wack.

So our number 1 receiver is a guy who averages 600 yards per season?

Well SM has won 1 challenge out of 12, so maybe he shouldn’t challenge anything. ? as someone who hates complaining about officials, it’s really bad this year. And it slows the game down in painful ways. It’s really hard to get non fans into it and I’m trying!

Miami is so, so, so bad but that is such a crazy line. We could easily shut them out though.

That was the most Chargers game ever and I called it. Fall behind by a ton, have a crazy rallying, only to lose in the end. If they had fans, they would be so depressed. Sadly, it sums up Rivers’ career. Just kinda falls short. Sucks because he is a really good qb.

Love your enthusiasm but you are IMO completely overrating Duke and Brown.

Such a confusing take. And even if somehow made sense, how much different is KC than Buffalo? Why is the guy from California (Allen) more of a Buffalo guy? Jim Kelly was from Pittsburgh and hated the idea of coming to Buffalo. Stevie Johnson was from Oakland and loved Buffalo (though to some, he wasn’t a Buffalo guy).