Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

So if they cleaned house then what?? I've heard two names thrown out for the GM spot, the guy from Atlanta Cardwell I believe was the name. He and Whaley share one big thing in common, you have no clue about either of them how they will handle being the guy now. Atlanta has drafted well, but does that mean Cardwell will be great for the Bill's. Using that logic you could argue that G Williams and MM both came from successful organizations as did TD in Tenn and Pitt, but neither worked out very well. The other name is Bill P. Well his drafts the last few years haven't been all that great, in fact you could argue most of his success came prior to free agency and when he didn't get to draft Peyton Manning. If we had cleaned house we'd all be drooling over signing a guy like Whaley as the GM Would I have preferred they can BN, sure, though still not all that convinced it won't happen in May anyway but whether Whaley takes over or someone else, in about three years afterwards you'll know if they made a good choice and theres as much chance of it being good or bad whether it was Whaley or someone else.

Good God!!! This has to rank as one of the dumpest posts of all time and there's been many in the last couple of weeks. As they say about Monday morning QB's it's real easy to read his comments and somehow find something to pick apart about them. As opposed to he's asked a question and he gives an answer off the cuff. Maybe he should require all questions be submitted to him 24 hours in advance so he can analyze his responses to the exact word, may sure he gets any pauses in the right spot too.

I agree, GM contracts expire May 1st, so could very likely see that happening A very telling thing will be to see if Doug Whaley has any interviews with other teams over the next month. If he doesn't, that indicates to me the transition is sooner rather than later.

Explain to me how how you know what the draft board exactly looked like?? So you know for a fact that Whaley didn't have Wilson higher?? Scouts can set the draft board but ultimately it's the GM who makes the final call on whom to take when. So you could get rid of Whaley and bring in someone else new whom you really have no idea about. The Bill's brought in Whaley a couple years back to be the heir apparent to BN, now he's getting that shot. If his next three look terrible then it was a mistake, but that's the same identical risk you have with anyone you bring in. RB has a good business mind and appears to know how to be a good manager, that's what the CEO needs to do. Make sure people make smart decisions. The problem was the last time he was in this role in a similar way, you had a clueless GM in Marv Levy who didn't appear to want to make any decisions. His style which he publicly stated was "consensus" So you had Marv and DJ trying to agree on who to draft or sign, more than likely RB went along with what those two wanted.

Do we really know that to be the case?? Even when TD had a similar position Littman and what's the other guys name Overdolf were still in the same role as today.

Name me one company or organization where the guy at the top is an expert in everything. You could argue why would any company be stupid enough to put a technical guy like Bill Gates over seeing the marketing department. The company I work for has a CEO who's an engineer by trade, but our ultimate business is selling a product. It's no difference than RB new position, yes he's in charge of football operations, but seriously doubt he'll be running the draft board.

OK well that's what I thought, but in the context it was being used, didn't seem to make much sense to mean that. I suppose it goes back to what a HS geography teacher once said about he f word. It's amazing in that people use it al lthe time as a noun, verb, adverb, adjective, and whatever else those things were called when you diagrammed sentences in English 101. I wonder if they now diagrammed text messages in HS english??

What's the difference at this point whether the GM reports to Brandon or to RW?? Neither is a football mind. At this point it appears RW is kind of out of things and other than top level things like firing the coach RW is not involved much. And give it another 6 t o12 months the way he appears to be going, it could be even much less. I seriously don't think RB is going to be making the draft picks, that will fall to the GM. Will he have input as to how much to pay a coach or GM yes, though that would likely need RW blessing anyway. Assuming it is announced that BN is staying as GM, if DW doesn't get any interviews for an open GM spot, that tell me that BN isn't long for the current job. GM contracts expire May 1st, I think BN sticks around til lthen, then announces he is going into semi retirement as a scout. Or maybe they will even announce that part today.

I give up, what the hell is a mofo??

I'd have no problem bringing him in as some position coach, OC, that may be a stretch. HC I'd rather have CG or DJ as at least they've done the job. But ultimately it will be up to whomever is the next HC.

Based on how quickly things happened today which is not typical for the Bill's, usually requires meeting with RW to get canned, CG postponing his presser til 3, did the Bill's like they did with DJ tell CG maybe a month or so ago that he was done year end. But unlike DJ, he elected to finish out the season?? Wouldn't surprise me that was the case.

I think it will be announced that Buddy is going into semi retirement to be a part time scout. I wonder if Buddy is reading this thread right now himself, so he can find out what's going on?? Happy New Year Buddy!!

Zimmer worry's me some in that after 43 years why hasn't anyone ever made him a HC? It worries me that there may be a reason for it. I don't know how old he is, but if he's bee ncoaching for 43 years is no spring chicken. I think I'd prefer someone younger, and up and coming guy.

I thought the rumor was he was giving up control, not selling the team? If that's the plan at best maybe he sells a 5% or 10% share to Kelly so he saves some capitol gains tax on that portion of the sale which may go up around 5% more in 2013. So he saves 5% tax on a 10% sale price. So if the team is worth $800 mil, 10% is worth $80 mil and 5% of that is around $4 mil. I mean I'd take it, but on someone who's worth over a billion $$ hard to believe he's doing this to save $4 mil. I think it's being done for other reasons IMO RW has figured out he can't do it anymore and it's no longer fun, so he's doing what's best for the team and giving up control.

I'd give a pass to Dareus. Having his brother get killed, while some could easily put it behind them, others may not and may have effected him more than was known. I wouldn't call Fred a disappointment unless you mean in that he got hurt. Can't have both him and Spiller. I do wonder if Fred will ever play for the Bill's again? He's to old to wait for, if he's not ready game 1, need to move on to someone else. A guy like CJ you wait for, but FJ is too old for that, either he's ready or move on.

So when the white smoke comes out of the chimney at One Bills Drive it's a go then!

I wait all day for Sunday night alright, just for that!!

Was the presser at One Bills drive or in his driveway?? I've certainly seen the "driveway" location more in that situation.

So when is this alleged presser going to occur?? Was a time stated??

Estate taxes only come into play when you die. He would be avoiding a paying a potential increase in capital gains tax. However the sale would need to be completed by Monday, not just announcing a sale. Thought I read the post also mentioned he would still own the team, just giving up control. If that's true, then no change at all unless he's selling like a 5% share to Kelly/Thomas, then would pay CGT on that portion.

I've thopught about thta for awhile. Maybe RW said screw you Uncle Sam, I'm not paying all these taxes, gifts the team to a charity with some type of complex agreement that someone else runs the team, i.e. Kelly-Thomas. Would the NFL like this no, would they agree to it, probably not, but their only option would be to over turn it in court, which isn't all that likely the NFL would win based on prior court decisions. Plus wouldn't look too good if the NFL is suing to prevent a team from being giving to a charity. Publicity wouldn't look too good on that one. Really isn't giving Kelly a gift, the gift would be to some charity. True his family is losing the money, but from what you hear, they have another $800 mil or so on top of the value of the Bill's. RW doesn't appear to live a very lavish lifestyle so I'd imagine his heirs could get by on just $800 mil or so.

The $$$ come from the alleged group he's put together.

What is his normal time slot?? It's rare that you see a coach address the media once he's fired, at least not in a press conference set by the team. Unless the Bill's plan to announce at noon he's gone, and the 3:00 is canceled.

LOL I'm kind of neutral on Nix, would rather see him gone at this point, but won't go nuts if stays either. However if you're trying to make the argument about what a good job Nix has done, its becomes hard to believe when you list Zerbie Sanders as a positive. He hasn't played even one down!

Are you connecting via computer or TV? Have seen that on computer before, but not TV. I'd say it's a hiccup in their system. Could try and call them.